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ezk
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada239 Posts
May 01 2012 14:08 GMT
#201
On May 01 2012 23:03 tomatriedes wrote:
Does Warden ever not do 1-1-1s?


It's cheap, It's easy to do.
I think "a low prostitute" might of been a good analogy afterall.
OGzan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States289 Posts
May 01 2012 14:08 GMT
#202
It must be annoying having people monitor your every move
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Silvertine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States509 Posts
May 01 2012 14:08 GMT
#203
On May 01 2012 23:02 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 23:00 YehOfCourseImOP wrote:
Soon nobody will say anything for fear of getting banned..


Well, if he had said the n-word everyone would be going fucking crazy.

Nope, he uses that word all the time. It's very simple: if Destiny does it then it's OK. If anyone else does it then it's not. It's just a double-standard which is the result of his popularity.
PeachTea
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States149 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 14:13:25
May 01 2012 14:08 GMT
#204
On May 01 2012 22:58 yandere991 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:49 PeachTea wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:43 Silvertine wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:39 PeachTea wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:30 Silvertine wrote:
It's funny that the only defense seems to be "Well that's Destiny". So I guess the standard is if you are an idiotic racist all the time it's OK, but if you only do it once then it's unacceptable.

He shouldn't be a featured streamer when he constantly calls people 'niggers' and 'gooks'.

On May 01 2012 22:25 skrjabin wrote:
Another attempt at a liquid witch hunt.

It can't be a 'witch hunt' when the person did what they are accused of.


Read other peoples posts before making an argument against Destiny's defense. He also used witch hunt in a loose comparison. Why don't you try understanding what your reading before posting another idiotic post such as this. The one sided completely skewed attacks that people like you post on this forum make actual discussions impossible because you refuse to come up with something logically sound before posting. Learn to look at the words around the offensive ones before calling someone racist please. " I am going to eat a cracker" "Look at the white cracker kid" See. In the English language many words mean many different things. It isn't that hard to understand.

He called people with Asian names 'gooks'. Pretty open and shut case in terms of context.


I am east Asian and do not find that offensive in anyway. This thread is absolutely ridiculous. Are we going to try and stomp someone out of the community if they call a white guy a cracker? There are all these absolutely entertaining and great people who make this community awesome and you look at one thing and decide "hes a racist.... burn him". In the nicest way possible... try reading a book or something. Maybe.. just maybe the ignorance will recede from your mind and we will have one less unintelligent human being we will have to deal with.


It's funny that you call him unintelligent and ignorant when only his argument makes logical sense and yours rely on "he's entertaining."

Calling another obviously Asian person (his name) a gook is unambiguously racist and your eating a cracker thing was one of the worst examples I've ever seen, whether you're offended or not does not invalidate Silvertine's argument.

Now whether I actually give a fuck and think he should be punished? No.


First off, he posted a comment that only added negatively to the conversation. Did not make a point and was just used to call out a point i made. Second of all, the cracker thing was used to show that one word can be used in different ways. So your point is subjective but the cracker reference made sense. You are probably looking at it the wrong way but that is subjective. Anyways, this thread is for people talking about destiny and the situation around how people react to his behavior. It is not used to find someone in the thread that you can just attack. I am just frustrated that people are trying to negatively affect and in turn, will affect many people. Lets try to keep on topic. Destiny can say what he wants. Its not like hes trying to represent the community in anyway. Btw, Idra said there is something wrong with French Canadians but no one cared. This is obviously a kid just trying to take someone down to make himself feel better. Sorry if i might have brought my points too far beforehand.

Also, my argument does not rely on "he's entertaining". Another example of skewing words to make a point.
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
May 01 2012 14:09 GMT
#205
On May 01 2012 23:07 chatuka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:57 Graviton wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:54 chatuka wrote:
the intention was pretty racist by Destiny.

Destiny could of just left the game saying
"The absolute epitome of a skilless effing faggot" that's it.. But he adds on top of his rage with lowering his opponent to a non-human slur that degrades asian people. That is the problem here.

I understand that racism is here well and alive in 2012 all around the world. However, better people, especially professional SC2 players need to get over their tribal instincts and just be chill with other cultures.

So it's okay degrade homosexuals? Can we stop complaining about double standards in the community when we use them in regard to offensive language itself? Thanks.

Seriously though, is there any particular reason are bringing up Destiny yet again, after more than year of exactly the same behavior?



the word faggot or queer was not the intended target for the asian opponent. Calling him a faggot when the opponent's sexual preference was not known at the time was not exactly the most hurtful slur you can sling a somebody. But calling
out a person for being of a certain race is most definitely one of the prime example of racial slurring.

If, I called someone in college that was a open homo-sexual, a faggot or queer in public, that would be considered a
hate crime. Somebody in Rutgers got prison time because he supposedly exposed his room-mate as a queer on the internet. The room-mate jumped off the George Washington Bridge.

Professional SC2 players that play with or against other people of different ethnicities are held to a much higher standard of conduct than amateur players that have the freedom of no scrutiny and expectations from Teams, sponsors, etcetera.
If one of Destiny's sponsors was Samsung or Hyundai, and Destiny continues to sprout his racial slurs on online videogames. I would see no reason to see why Samsung or Hyundai would want o Sponsor Quantic Gaming or anybody of that team for that matter.


Guess what buddy, you don't get to decide when the word "faggot" is a slur or not. It's always a slur and it's always unacceptable.
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zerglingrodeo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States910 Posts
May 01 2012 14:09 GMT
#206
Yeah, Destiny has used ignorant, racist language for a long time. He has given sad, pseudo-intellectual attempts to defend himself by invoking the all-forgiving notion of 'context': if a white man is using it in a context in which he does not 'mean to be racist' or something of that sort, then he can talk about rape, and drop the n-word (and now the g-word).

Because his fans love him, they will happily snatch up these weak defenses because they WANT to believe that whatever he says is ok. I wish this would change, but I do not think it will.
"This is how philosophers should salute one another: 'Take your time!'' - Wittgenstein
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
May 01 2012 14:09 GMT
#207
On May 01 2012 23:06 nOondn wrote:
just email to sponsor if you don't like him it more effective way to suffer him than make a thread on TL.


noooooooo! Do not email sponsors, we don't want to make sponsors feel uneasy. If your really butthurt about this, go email Quantic.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
May 01 2012 14:09 GMT
#208
No one on TL can do anything about this.
If you are offended by a word, take your case to someone who can ban words and feels empowered to do so.
It just forces people to come up with another term though.
You can also take the matter to your own hands and block all communications at the start of the match.
Anything but mobs.
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Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
May 01 2012 14:10 GMT
#209
On May 01 2012 23:01 Chocobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:56 Takkara wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:55 arioch wrote:
Seriously... Trying to get people banned because you are what? Craving attention yourself?

I do not understand the purpose of this thread unless you were massively offended by him, if so, just blacklist him and get on with your life.

Destiny streams for a living - trying to denounce him like this is tantimount to standing up at work and shouting about how one of your colleagues has done something naughty and should be punished.


If someone at my work (or really any work) stood up and called someone else a fucking gook, they would be fired. Almost immediately.

A self-run internet stream is not a professional office environment.


You completely miss the point. The guy said it's akin to "standing up at work and shouting about how one of your colleagues has done something naughty and should be punished." My point is that if anyone at any work had done this, they would be fired. So it is, in no way, like the example he stated.
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Disconnect
Profile Joined September 2010
United States84 Posts
May 01 2012 14:10 GMT
#210
On May 01 2012 23:07 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 23:02 ssg wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:00 Takkara wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:57 PraefektMotus wrote:
Anyone who ever says anything remotely inappropriate in a juvenile environment should be punished hard! People are getting offended! Srs bsns!


People in positions of authority or privilege are held to a higher standard, whether they like it or not. This is true in all parts of society including sports, politics, entertainment, etc.


Sports? Here in the US its common place for athletes to use derogatory terms. No one really cares.


No it's not. In what context? Granted what they say at practice and even on the field will definitely be colorful and offensive. However, in a public sphere a professional sports player cannot say racial slurs or call people 'fucking faggots'. If they did and when they have, there has been major controversy.



Inside a game of Starcraft is equivalent to "On the field".
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
May 01 2012 14:10 GMT
#211
Ok so is there verified screenshot of stream or what we gonna get is screenshot from unverified replay?
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
May 01 2012 14:10 GMT
#212
meh.. this kind of things are getting old...
I already knew Destiny talks liek this.. still like him.. so.. w/e
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
May 01 2012 14:10 GMT
#213
On May 01 2012 23:02 SecondSandwich wrote:
This type of language only serves to cast esports in a negative light. It makes no sense to me.


Because there is no racial slurs in other "sports"?

Wait, I can already feel a counter argumenter coming my way. "yes, but esports is still growing and is not big enough to handle all the negative attention that is bound to be thrown it's way now!" I'm sure you can find cases in, I dunno curling? But funny all the negative attention stems from all the people that choose to be offended over this, where I feel it's more a stronger dislike for Destiny's personality and streaming success rather than the words he used in this case.

"Right on" - Morrow
CP-Jun
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia278 Posts
May 01 2012 14:10 GMT
#214
On May 01 2012 23:08 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 23:05 CP-Jun wrote:
While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : )


Precisely, OP raised a valid concern and explained his logic and rationale behind his concern.

Much better than all those who felt the need to insult OP. If you think hes over sensitive, just say it, don't have to be a dick about it.

And whats up with the hate towards cheese? This is a strategy game where people can pick their options and execute it well. If he dosen't play your way, does it matter?


I am sorry. Can you not read? I am not being a dick. I am saying people should not put down OP because he raised a valid point like you said. I don't understand how my sentences were twisted like that.
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Sc2Requiem
Profile Joined June 2011
United States121 Posts
May 01 2012 14:11 GMT
#215
Yeah no big deal TLers. We'll just attempt to hurt someone financially because he uses bad words we don't agree with (nor are we forced to listen to them). Orb got pretty fucked for dropping the N-bomb once or twice a couple years ago. Now his casting career will be stunted if it's even able to take off at all. Congratulations guys, you Vocabulary Knights sure "won" there. I look forward to seeing the results of your crusade against Destiny.
"What is defeat? Nothing but education; nothing but the first step towards something better."
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
May 01 2012 14:11 GMT
#216
On May 01 2012 23:10 CP-Jun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 23:08 poorcloud wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:05 CP-Jun wrote:
While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : )


Precisely, OP raised a valid concern and explained his logic and rationale behind his concern.

Much better than all those who felt the need to insult OP. If you think hes over sensitive, just say it, don't have to be a dick about it.

And whats up with the hate towards cheese? This is a strategy game where people can pick their options and execute it well. If he dosen't play your way, does it matter?


I am sorry. Can you not read? I am not being a dick. I am saying people should not put down OP because he raised a valid point like you said. I don't understand how my sentences were twisted like that.


I think he was agreeing with you.
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nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
May 01 2012 14:12 GMT
#217
On May 01 2012 23:09 TBone- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 23:06 nOondn wrote:
just email to sponsor if you don't like him it more effective way to suffer him than make a thread on TL.


noooooooo! Do not email sponsors, we don't want to make sponsors feel uneasy. If your really butthurt about this, go email Quantic.

i don't think Quantic care about this,They know about Destiny's behavior before they signed him.
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Svetz
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia311 Posts
May 01 2012 14:12 GMT
#218
On May 01 2012 23:10 chuDr3t4 wrote:
Ok so is there verified screenshot of stream or what we gonna get is screenshot from unverified replay?


I think destiny's reply was all the verification needed
When I grow up I want to be Harry Dresden ;(
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 14:19:34
May 01 2012 14:12 GMT
#219
Korean is a race? :o)
Destiny is awesome, let the man speak and laugh at him when he's mad. I'd probably laugh my ass off if I was in the position to beat him and he pours all that urban dictionary at me. lololol rage moar dude

P.S. What if it's a compliment XD, he calls you Korean, in starcraft that's a huge compliment.
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jax1
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden35 Posts
May 01 2012 14:12 GMT
#220
Its the internet destiny would not say stuff like this if he played pingpong for example. Its problem internet have and also a freedom. Its easier to say what you feel when there is no direct consequence. we learn and evolve its gonna take some time.
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