On May 01 2012 23:03 tomatriedes wrote:
Does Warden ever not do 1-1-1s?
Does Warden ever not do 1-1-1s?
It's cheap, It's easy to do.
I think "a low prostitute" might of been a good analogy afterall.
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ezk
Canada239 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:03 tomatriedes wrote: Does Warden ever not do 1-1-1s? It's cheap, It's easy to do. I think "a low prostitute" might of been a good analogy afterall. | ||
OGzan
United States289 Posts
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:02 Animzor wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 23:00 YehOfCourseImOP wrote: Soon nobody will say anything for fear of getting banned.. Well, if he had said the n-word everyone would be going fucking crazy. Nope, he uses that word all the time. It's very simple: if Destiny does it then it's OK. If anyone else does it then it's not. It's just a double-standard which is the result of his popularity. | ||
PeachTea
United States149 Posts
On May 01 2012 22:58 yandere991 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 22:49 PeachTea wrote: On May 01 2012 22:43 Silvertine wrote: On May 01 2012 22:39 PeachTea wrote: On May 01 2012 22:30 Silvertine wrote: It's funny that the only defense seems to be "Well that's Destiny". So I guess the standard is if you are an idiotic racist all the time it's OK, but if you only do it once then it's unacceptable. He shouldn't be a featured streamer when he constantly calls people 'niggers' and 'gooks'. On May 01 2012 22:25 skrjabin wrote: Another attempt at a liquid witch hunt. It can't be a 'witch hunt' when the person did what they are accused of. Read other peoples posts before making an argument against Destiny's defense. He also used witch hunt in a loose comparison. Why don't you try understanding what your reading before posting another idiotic post such as this. The one sided completely skewed attacks that people like you post on this forum make actual discussions impossible because you refuse to come up with something logically sound before posting. Learn to look at the words around the offensive ones before calling someone racist please. " I am going to eat a cracker" "Look at the white cracker kid" See. In the English language many words mean many different things. It isn't that hard to understand. He called people with Asian names 'gooks'. Pretty open and shut case in terms of context. I am east Asian and do not find that offensive in anyway. This thread is absolutely ridiculous. Are we going to try and stomp someone out of the community if they call a white guy a cracker? There are all these absolutely entertaining and great people who make this community awesome and you look at one thing and decide "hes a racist.... burn him". In the nicest way possible... try reading a book or something. Maybe.. just maybe the ignorance will recede from your mind and we will have one less unintelligent human being we will have to deal with. It's funny that you call him unintelligent and ignorant when only his argument makes logical sense and yours rely on "he's entertaining." Calling another obviously Asian person (his name) a gook is unambiguously racist and your eating a cracker thing was one of the worst examples I've ever seen, whether you're offended or not does not invalidate Silvertine's argument. Now whether I actually give a fuck and think he should be punished? No. First off, he posted a comment that only added negatively to the conversation. Did not make a point and was just used to call out a point i made. Second of all, the cracker thing was used to show that one word can be used in different ways. So your point is subjective but the cracker reference made sense. You are probably looking at it the wrong way but that is subjective. Anyways, this thread is for people talking about destiny and the situation around how people react to his behavior. It is not used to find someone in the thread that you can just attack. I am just frustrated that people are trying to negatively affect and in turn, will affect many people. Lets try to keep on topic. Destiny can say what he wants. Its not like hes trying to represent the community in anyway. Btw, Idra said there is something wrong with French Canadians but no one cared. This is obviously a kid just trying to take someone down to make himself feel better. Sorry if i might have brought my points too far beforehand. Also, my argument does not rely on "he's entertaining". Another example of skewing words to make a point. | ||
Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:07 chatuka wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 22:57 Graviton wrote: On May 01 2012 22:54 chatuka wrote: the intention was pretty racist by Destiny. Destiny could of just left the game saying "The absolute epitome of a skilless effing faggot" that's it.. But he adds on top of his rage with lowering his opponent to a non-human slur that degrades asian people. That is the problem here. I understand that racism is here well and alive in 2012 all around the world. However, better people, especially professional SC2 players need to get over their tribal instincts and just be chill with other cultures. So it's okay degrade homosexuals? Can we stop complaining about double standards in the community when we use them in regard to offensive language itself? Thanks. Seriously though, is there any particular reason are bringing up Destiny yet again, after more than year of exactly the same behavior? the word faggot or queer was not the intended target for the asian opponent. Calling him a faggot when the opponent's sexual preference was not known at the time was not exactly the most hurtful slur you can sling a somebody. But calling out a person for being of a certain race is most definitely one of the prime example of racial slurring. If, I called someone in college that was a open homo-sexual, a faggot or queer in public, that would be considered a hate crime. Somebody in Rutgers got prison time because he supposedly exposed his room-mate as a queer on the internet. The room-mate jumped off the George Washington Bridge. Professional SC2 players that play with or against other people of different ethnicities are held to a much higher standard of conduct than amateur players that have the freedom of no scrutiny and expectations from Teams, sponsors, etcetera. If one of Destiny's sponsors was Samsung or Hyundai, and Destiny continues to sprout his racial slurs on online videogames. I would see no reason to see why Samsung or Hyundai would want o Sponsor Quantic Gaming or anybody of that team for that matter. Guess what buddy, you don't get to decide when the word "faggot" is a slur or not. It's always a slur and it's always unacceptable. | ||
zerglingrodeo
United States910 Posts
Because his fans love him, they will happily snatch up these weak defenses because they WANT to believe that whatever he says is ok. I wish this would change, but I do not think it will. | ||
TBone-
United States2309 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:06 nOondn wrote: just email to sponsor if you don't like him it more effective way to suffer him than make a thread on TL. noooooooo! Do not email sponsors, we don't want to make sponsors feel uneasy. If your really butthurt about this, go email Quantic. | ||
HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
If you are offended by a word, take your case to someone who can ban words and feels empowered to do so. It just forces people to come up with another term though. You can also take the matter to your own hands and block all communications at the start of the match. Anything but mobs. | ||
Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:01 Chocobo wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 22:56 Takkara wrote: On May 01 2012 22:55 arioch wrote: Seriously... Trying to get people banned because you are what? Craving attention yourself? I do not understand the purpose of this thread unless you were massively offended by him, if so, just blacklist him and get on with your life. Destiny streams for a living - trying to denounce him like this is tantimount to standing up at work and shouting about how one of your colleagues has done something naughty and should be punished. If someone at my work (or really any work) stood up and called someone else a fucking gook, they would be fired. Almost immediately. A self-run internet stream is not a professional office environment. You completely miss the point. The guy said it's akin to "standing up at work and shouting about how one of your colleagues has done something naughty and should be punished." My point is that if anyone at any work had done this, they would be fired. So it is, in no way, like the example he stated. | ||
Disconnect
United States84 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:07 Takkara wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 23:02 ssg wrote: On May 01 2012 23:00 Takkara wrote: On May 01 2012 22:57 PraefektMotus wrote: Anyone who ever says anything remotely inappropriate in a juvenile environment should be punished hard! People are getting offended! Srs bsns! People in positions of authority or privilege are held to a higher standard, whether they like it or not. This is true in all parts of society including sports, politics, entertainment, etc. Sports? Here in the US its common place for athletes to use derogatory terms. No one really cares. No it's not. In what context? Granted what they say at practice and even on the field will definitely be colorful and offensive. However, in a public sphere a professional sports player cannot say racial slurs or call people 'fucking faggots'. If they did and when they have, there has been major controversy. Inside a game of Starcraft is equivalent to "On the field". | ||
chuDr3t4
Russian Federation483 Posts
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0kz
Italy1118 Posts
I already knew Destiny talks liek this.. still like him.. so.. w/e | ||
JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:02 SecondSandwich wrote: This type of language only serves to cast esports in a negative light. It makes no sense to me. Because there is no racial slurs in other "sports"? Wait, I can already feel a counter argumenter coming my way. "yes, but esports is still growing and is not big enough to handle all the negative attention that is bound to be thrown it's way now!" I'm sure you can find cases in, I dunno curling? But funny all the negative attention stems from all the people that choose to be offended over this, where I feel it's more a stronger dislike for Destiny's personality and streaming success rather than the words he used in this case. | ||
CP-Jun
Australia278 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:08 poorcloud wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 23:05 CP-Jun wrote: While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : ) Precisely, OP raised a valid concern and explained his logic and rationale behind his concern. Much better than all those who felt the need to insult OP. If you think hes over sensitive, just say it, don't have to be a dick about it. And whats up with the hate towards cheese? This is a strategy game where people can pick their options and execute it well. If he dosen't play your way, does it matter? I am sorry. Can you not read? I am not being a dick. I am saying people should not put down OP because he raised a valid point like you said. I don't understand how my sentences were twisted like that. | ||
Sc2Requiem
United States121 Posts
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Firesilver
United Kingdom1190 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:10 CP-Jun wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 23:08 poorcloud wrote: On May 01 2012 23:05 CP-Jun wrote: While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : ) Precisely, OP raised a valid concern and explained his logic and rationale behind his concern. Much better than all those who felt the need to insult OP. If you think hes over sensitive, just say it, don't have to be a dick about it. And whats up with the hate towards cheese? This is a strategy game where people can pick their options and execute it well. If he dosen't play your way, does it matter? I am sorry. Can you not read? I am not being a dick. I am saying people should not put down OP because he raised a valid point like you said. I don't understand how my sentences were twisted like that. I think he was agreeing with you. | ||
nOondn
564 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:09 TBone- wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 23:06 nOondn wrote: just email to sponsor if you don't like him it more effective way to suffer him than make a thread on TL. noooooooo! Do not email sponsors, we don't want to make sponsors feel uneasy. If your really butthurt about this, go email Quantic. i don't think Quantic care about this,They know about Destiny's behavior before they signed him. | ||
Svetz
Australia311 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:10 chuDr3t4 wrote: Ok so is there verified screenshot of stream or what we gonna get is screenshot from unverified replay? I think destiny's reply was all the verification needed | ||
figq
12519 Posts
Destiny is awesome, let the man speak and laugh at him when he's mad. I'd probably laugh my ass off if I was in the position to beat him and he pours all that urban dictionary at me. lololol rage moar dude P.S. What if it's a compliment XD, he calls you Korean, in starcraft that's a huge compliment. | ||
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Sweden35 Posts
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