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teaCher
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada521 Posts
May 01 2012 14:18 GMT
#241
I Dislike Destiny, how our community allows a player like this to become so popular and idolized baffles me.
If we want to move forward and make this eSport something big, we can't have people like Destiny being praised by the community.
Remember this is a gentlemens sport, is Destiny really a gentlemen?
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CP-Jun
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia278 Posts
May 01 2012 14:20 GMT
#242
On May 01 2012 23:16 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 23:10 CP-Jun wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:08 poorcloud wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:05 CP-Jun wrote:
While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : )


Precisely, OP raised a valid concern and explained his logic and rationale behind his concern.

Much better than all those who felt the need to insult OP. If you think hes over sensitive, just say it, don't have to be a dick about it.

And whats up with the hate towards cheese? This is a strategy game where people can pick their options and execute it well. If he dosen't play your way, does it matter?


I am sorry. Can you not read? I am not being a dick. I am saying people should not put down OP because he raised a valid point like you said. I don't understand how my sentences were twisted like that.


Which valid point did he raise exactly?

Destiny was being a dick, which - if it bothers you enough - you sort out by reporting him to TL/Twitch, ie the people that he streams through and promote his stream and who will probably not approve of such content being featured on their respective websites/services (if they decide it goes against their policy).

There is no point to be made here.


The point is that he is a dick and he shouldn't be a dick unless he is like Paris Hilton who likes to make a video about herself behaving badly for more popularity? By the look of it, he does like he wants more popularity by entertaining people with bad mouthing. In which case, I feel sorry for him that it is the only way he can maintain his popularity. But then he will probably say something like I dont give a fuck!
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Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
May 01 2012 14:20 GMT
#243
While something like this may cause an uproar and phase other players, I can't imagine Destiny would really care. As far as his team is concerned, he has made it glaringly apparent where he stand on topics of this nature for over a year now, and they clearly don't mind.

Sounds like you got pissed because he raged at you and called you names, and now, instead of PMing him you decided to post the bitch-fest to the world. Been there, done that. Never draws the response you want.

Side note: Being a gook myself, I always found the word hilarious. Just sound it out. You can't help but laugh. ^_^
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Bellazuk
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada146 Posts
May 01 2012 14:20 GMT
#244
On May 01 2012 23:18 sad.wish wrote:
I Dislike Destiny, how our community allows a player like this to become so popular and idolized baffles me.
If we want to move forward and make this eSport something big, we can't have people like Destiny being praised by the community.
Remember this is a gentlemens sport, is Destiny really a gentlemen?


Why would u be gentleman to some1 who just kicked you in the nuts ? Like really ?
“The only thing standing between you and your goal is the bullshit story you keep telling yourself as to why you can't achieve it.”
jax1
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden35 Posts
May 01 2012 14:21 GMT
#245
On May 01 2012 23:14 TBone- wrote:
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On May 01 2012 23:12 nOondn wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:09 TBone- wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:06 nOondn wrote:
just email to sponsor if you don't like him it more effective way to suffer him than make a thread on TL.


noooooooo! Do not email sponsors, we don't want to make sponsors feel uneasy. If your really butthurt about this, go email Quantic.

i don't think Quantic care about this,They know about Destiny's behavior before they signed him.


And do you know why Quantic doens't care? Because it doesn't actually matter.
Well it matters if asians and black care about this thats the only thing. I like destiny but when i think about this now, it may have to tone it down a bit. he can say other stuff incompetent stupid dumb stuff like that.
Korinai
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada413 Posts
May 01 2012 14:21 GMT
#246
On May 01 2012 22:19 Hulavuta wrote:
This was the reason that Destiny was released from compLexity, if I am not mistaken, and I'm sure Quantic hired him knowing he does this sort of thing, so I don't think they have a problem.


I thought Destiny was never on coL in the first place? Could be wrong though.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 01 2012 14:21 GMT
#247
On May 01 2012 23:20 CP-Jun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 23:16 Talin wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:10 CP-Jun wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:08 poorcloud wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:05 CP-Jun wrote:
While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : )


Precisely, OP raised a valid concern and explained his logic and rationale behind his concern.

Much better than all those who felt the need to insult OP. If you think hes over sensitive, just say it, don't have to be a dick about it.

And whats up with the hate towards cheese? This is a strategy game where people can pick their options and execute it well. If he dosen't play your way, does it matter?


I am sorry. Can you not read? I am not being a dick. I am saying people should not put down OP because he raised a valid point like you said. I don't understand how my sentences were twisted like that.


Which valid point did he raise exactly?

Destiny was being a dick, which - if it bothers you enough - you sort out by reporting him to TL/Twitch, ie the people that he streams through and promote his stream and who will probably not approve of such content being featured on their respective websites/services (if they decide it goes against their policy).

There is no point to be made here.


The point is that he is a dick and he shouldn't be a dick unless he is like Paris Hilton who likes to make a video about herself behaving badly for more popularity? By the look of it, he does like he wants more popularity by entertaining people with bad mouthing. In which case, I feel sorry for him that it is the only way he can maintain his popularity. But then he will probably say something like I dont give a fuck!


So where is this point that is worth discussing in that?

He's being a dick and he shouldn't be. Nobody should be. But people still are. And there are means to deal with them (in most cases). So try doing that. Thread over. =/
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 14:23:36
May 01 2012 14:21 GMT
#248
To be honest the way the community responds to these things really confuses, and very nearly disgusts me. The simple response of "who cares?" has to be the most unprocessed, extremist conservative thing to say. How can you honestly say that these things do NOT matter? The ignorance in America + Show Spoiler +
and other places I suppose
surrounding topics such as racism, and the pushing away of minority groups is something that has been incredibly prevalent for so long. Yet, in 2012 and beyond all odds, we’re still spewing this same aggression towards people in the same manner, and still for no reason. Moreover, this is being done on a professional level, and in a game.

Blows my mind.

and edit: I think people who get made need to make the differentiation between the race or what is taken advantage of, and their opponent. Get mad at what you lost to, not the person ><
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noax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada150 Posts
May 01 2012 14:22 GMT
#249
Well there are few asian in their team... i'm curious to hear their feeling towards this... especially from (T)Flo well we're going to see what gonna happens... to be honest i don't think it's gonna change or fired him from Quantic... think of it as a cooler and nicer (T)IdrA...
HotShizz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
France710 Posts
May 01 2012 14:22 GMT
#250
Honestly, your best option is to send him a thoughtful argument on b.net. He may completely ignore it, or he may read it after he had calmed down and realize he offended you and why. Either way it is a lot more productive than creating yet another thread on TL that is just going to put his back against the wall. Treat him like a human and maybe he will become more thoughtful about future interactions, raise the pitchforks and nothing will ever change.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
May 01 2012 14:22 GMT
#251
On May 01 2012 23:18 sad.wish wrote:
I Dislike Destiny, how our community allows a player like this to become so popular and idolized baffles me.
If we want to move forward and make this eSport something big, we can't have people like Destiny being praised by the community.
Remember this is a gentlemens sport, is Destiny really a gentlemen?


I feel like you're being sarcastic, but the point should still be made...

Requiring people to not use slurs in public discourse does not make something a "gentlemen's sport", it makes it civil.

Not tolerating slurs does not make SC2 "stuck up". Tolerating them keeps it immature. I cannot think of a major sphere where such language is tolerated. It's not asking a lot for people to not call each other slurs. It's really not.
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lahara
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany140 Posts
May 01 2012 14:23 GMT
#252
hypocritical, OP is hypocritical. Sure its nice to beat a pro player on ladder but then having to do a brag threat on tl under some wishy washy excuse of trying to protect the community from becoming the next KKK is just sad
having an argument on the internt is like competing in the paralympics, even if u win ure still retarded
Rawenkeke
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway350 Posts
May 01 2012 14:23 GMT
#253
Why do people even care? Surely everyone who has posted in this thread has been called worse, didn't see them making a thread about it. Sure it might not have been a guy as famous as Destiny..
CP-Jun
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia278 Posts
May 01 2012 14:24 GMT
#254
On May 01 2012 23:21 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 23:20 CP-Jun wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:16 Talin wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:10 CP-Jun wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:08 poorcloud wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:05 CP-Jun wrote:
While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : )


Precisely, OP raised a valid concern and explained his logic and rationale behind his concern.

Much better than all those who felt the need to insult OP. If you think hes over sensitive, just say it, don't have to be a dick about it.

And whats up with the hate towards cheese? This is a strategy game where people can pick their options and execute it well. If he dosen't play your way, does it matter?


I am sorry. Can you not read? I am not being a dick. I am saying people should not put down OP because he raised a valid point like you said. I don't understand how my sentences were twisted like that.


Which valid point did he raise exactly?

Destiny was being a dick, which - if it bothers you enough - you sort out by reporting him to TL/Twitch, ie the people that he streams through and promote his stream and who will probably not approve of such content being featured on their respective websites/services (if they decide it goes against their policy).

There is no point to be made here.


The point is that he is a dick and he shouldn't be a dick unless he is like Paris Hilton who likes to make a video about herself behaving badly for more popularity? By the look of it, he does like he wants more popularity by entertaining people with bad mouthing. In which case, I feel sorry for him that it is the only way he can maintain his popularity. But then he will probably say something like I dont give a fuck!


So where is this point that is worth discussing in that?

He's being a dick and he shouldn't be. Nobody should be. But people still are. And there are means to deal with them (in most cases). So try doing that. Thread over. =/



I didn't try to discuss anything?

"While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : )"

Above is what I said, I am not going into whether Destiny is allowed or not allowed or right or wrong that sort of stuff. It gets nowhere. What I know is that OP should not be dissed for this post.
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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
May 01 2012 14:24 GMT
#255
On May 01 2012 23:18 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 23:10 Disconnect wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:07 Takkara wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:02 ssg wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:00 Takkara wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:57 PraefektMotus wrote:
Anyone who ever says anything remotely inappropriate in a juvenile environment should be punished hard! People are getting offended! Srs bsns!


People in positions of authority or privilege are held to a higher standard, whether they like it or not. This is true in all parts of society including sports, politics, entertainment, etc.


Sports? Here in the US its common place for athletes to use derogatory terms. No one really cares.


No it's not. In what context? Granted what they say at practice and even on the field will definitely be colorful and offensive. However, in a public sphere a professional sports player cannot say racial slurs or call people 'fucking faggots'. If they did and when they have, there has been major controversy.



Inside a game of Starcraft is equivalent to "On the field".


Not when it's recordable or on a stream. That's when it's in the public. What two players say in privacy when no one can hear, no one can do anything about. But if a fan or the league mics that player up and catches the slur, then that's a controversy. It would be an issue if a player in any major sports league in America (NBA, MLB, NFL, NHL, etc) used a slur like that. There have been incidents like it in the past. (See: John Rocker)



John Terry agrees.
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1927 Posts
May 01 2012 14:24 GMT
#256
On May 01 2012 23:23 Rawenkeke wrote:
Why do people even care? Surely everyone who has posted in this thread has been called worse, didn't see them making a thread about it. Sure it might not have been a guy as famous as Destiny..


This is the most flawed logic I've ever read.
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leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
May 01 2012 14:24 GMT
#257
On May 01 2012 22:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
1. This is Destiny's personality.
2. Surely Quantic knew about this, as it's nothing new or well-hidden.
3. You all-inned him, which could very well piss him off (as any person may BM you for it).

We don't need an Orb 2.0 here.


double standards at its best!
banelings
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 01 2012 14:24 GMT
#258
Destiny has a right to rage at people online however he wants, he will bear the consequences in time.
I think featured streamers should have to maintain a certain level of decency to remain featured though.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
joeschmo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States167 Posts
May 01 2012 14:24 GMT
#259
This what's really hood nigga
Silvertine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States509 Posts
May 01 2012 14:24 GMT
#260
People keep saying that there's nothing that TL can do about this because Quantic and Destiny clearly don't care. Well how about remove him as a featured streamer? Featuring someone is obviously an endorsement of them to some extent, and TL shouldn't be endorsing someone who spews racism.
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