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On May 01 2012 23:28 Korinai wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:25 chatuka wrote:On May 01 2012 23:21 l_Kyo_l wrote:To be honest the way the community responds to these things really confuses, and very nearly disgusts me. The simple response of "who cares?" has to be the most unprocessed, extremist conservative thing to say. How can you honestly say that these things do NOT matter? The ignorance in America + Show Spoiler +and other places I suppose surrounding topics such as racism, and the pushing away of minority groups is something that has been incredibly prevalent for so long. Yet, in 2012 and beyond all odds, we’re still spewing this same aggression towards people in the same manner, and still for no reason. Moreover, this is being done on a professional level, and in a game. Blows my mind. it's just not america. It's the attitude of caucasian privilege as I call it. I'm not going to flame too much. I don't think caucasians would like it if Asians called white people crackers to their face. and all the other slurs that come with being of a certain country or religion. slurs for Polish English Irish Italians etcetera none of you polish, English, irish, or Italians would like it if Desitny directly called you one of those slurs, if he knew you of that ethnicity. Actually, I wouldn't give a fuck in the slightest. Like, no fucks given. At all.
Same here. Why do so many people seem to place so much value on words spoken by some random guy on the internet they've never met?
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Grow some balls and everything will be ok.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On May 01 2012 23:29 obsidia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:07 Rococo wrote:
I think I'm gonna bookmark this thread for those times when I find myself mistakenly thinking that this community isn't trash. The hypocrisy is rather amazing , all the frustrated little reddit drones who smashed their keyboards trying to ruin orbs career, now laughing about how "boys will be boys" with destiny. Hypocritical childish attitudes like this makes me want e-sports to die if this is what a large percentage of the community consists of. It's absolutely disgusting
This ^^. couldnt agree more.
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Fenrax
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Wow, he has to be fired and his stream has to be permanently removed from this site. Not sure if it already is or not but it has/had to happen. This thread is a mess and the arguments to defend him are ridiculous. What I read most:
- he always was like that and won't change:
Come on, that is just stupid. Let's say you get caught stealing, you very likely wouldn't get away with "oh but I was always stealing, that is just who I am"
- he is not trying to represent the community, he just wants to be himself:
Unfortunately that is not possible because he is making money from it. As long as he is a member of a team and a featured streamer he represents this community if he wants to or not.
- grow some balls, it wasn't a bad insult
Well, it is. It is the very definition of a racist slur motivated by racist thoughts. It is far worse than what the EGs guy did because he only threw random insults without actually targeting anyone directly. The only difference is that with the horrible US past he used a forbidden word so he got rightfully fired. QuanticDestiny on the other hand actively called someone inferior because of his race which is an unaccaptable lowblow. And for the balls part, maybe QuanticDestiny should grow some and stop being a crybaby about losing.
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It's useful to see all the usernames of people who think racially abusing someone is somehow acceptable behaviour. Not that anyone will remember them of course I just think it's funny how some people publicly endorse it.
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On May 01 2012 23:28 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:24 CP-Jun wrote:On May 01 2012 23:21 Talin wrote:On May 01 2012 23:20 CP-Jun wrote:On May 01 2012 23:16 Talin wrote:On May 01 2012 23:10 CP-Jun wrote:On May 01 2012 23:08 poorcloud wrote:On May 01 2012 23:05 CP-Jun wrote:
While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : ) Precisely, OP raised a valid concern and explained his logic and rationale behind his concern. Much better than all those who felt the need to insult OP. If you think hes over sensitive, just say it, don't have to be a dick about it. And whats up with the hate towards cheese? This is a strategy game where people can pick their options and execute it well. If he dosen't play your way, does it matter? I am sorry. Can you not read? I am not being a dick. I am saying people should not put down OP because he raised a valid point like you said. I don't understand how my sentences were twisted like that. Which valid point did he raise exactly? Destiny was being a dick, which - if it bothers you enough - you sort out by reporting him to TL/Twitch, ie the people that he streams through and promote his stream and who will probably not approve of such content being featured on their respective websites/services (if they decide it goes against their policy). There is no point to be made here. The point is that he is a dick and he shouldn't be a dick unless he is like Paris Hilton who likes to make a video about herself behaving badly for more popularity? By the look of it, he does like he wants more popularity by entertaining people with bad mouthing. In which case, I feel sorry for him that it is the only way he can maintain his popularity. But then he will probably say something like I dont give a fuck! So where is this point that is worth discussing in that? He's being a dick and he shouldn't be. Nobody should be. But people still are. And there are means to deal with them (in most cases). So try doing that. Thread over. =/ I didn't try to discuss anything? "While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : )" Above is what I said, I am not going into whether Destiny is allowed or not allowed or right or wrong that sort of stuff. It gets nowhere. What I know is that OP should not be dissed for this post. You said the OP raised a valid point, which implies that there is a point worth discussing. I said OP raised no points at all and should have acted by reporting Destiny's behaviour to tl, his streaming service, and even Quantic if he was so offended instead of starting a thread on the forums to publicize it. This thread does not provide meaningful content. It's just a thread where Destiny fans and growth-of-esports fans will bitchslap each other until they get bored or somebody does something about it.
My original post
"While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : )"
I am not going to discuss whether OP is something worthwhile to discuss about as that was not my original point from the first place. But I do agree with you that this will lead to pointless keyboard scraps
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ITS DESTINY. Did you expect people to read this and be shocked?! lolol
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I get insulted because I speak french and I live in canada, they call us stupid frenchys, I dont cry, I dont give a shit because I'm a man .. People give to words too much importance, what are they ? You are what you are and you know it, nobody will tell you who you are ..
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there's a mature language filter for a reason, if you get offended by words someone might call you turn it on.
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On May 01 2012 23:28 Korinai wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:25 chatuka wrote:On May 01 2012 23:21 l_Kyo_l wrote:To be honest the way the community responds to these things really confuses, and very nearly disgusts me. The simple response of "who cares?" has to be the most unprocessed, extremist conservative thing to say. How can you honestly say that these things do NOT matter? The ignorance in America + Show Spoiler +and other places I suppose surrounding topics such as racism, and the pushing away of minority groups is something that has been incredibly prevalent for so long. Yet, in 2012 and beyond all odds, we’re still spewing this same aggression towards people in the same manner, and still for no reason. Moreover, this is being done on a professional level, and in a game. Blows my mind. it's just not america. It's the attitude of caucasian privilege as I call it. I'm not going to flame too much. I don't think caucasians would like it if Asians called white people crackers to their face. and all the other slurs that come with being of a certain country or religion. slurs for Polish English Irish Italians etcetera none of you polish, English, irish, or Italians would like it if Desitny directly called you one of those slurs, if he knew you of that ethnicity. Actually, I wouldn't give a fuck in the slightest. Like, no fucks given. At all.
i doubt it.
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On May 01 2012 23:29 Chocobo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:28 Korinai wrote:On May 01 2012 23:25 chatuka wrote:On May 01 2012 23:21 l_Kyo_l wrote:To be honest the way the community responds to these things really confuses, and very nearly disgusts me. The simple response of "who cares?" has to be the most unprocessed, extremist conservative thing to say. How can you honestly say that these things do NOT matter? The ignorance in America + Show Spoiler +and other places I suppose surrounding topics such as racism, and the pushing away of minority groups is something that has been incredibly prevalent for so long. Yet, in 2012 and beyond all odds, we’re still spewing this same aggression towards people in the same manner, and still for no reason. Moreover, this is being done on a professional level, and in a game. Blows my mind. it's just not america. It's the attitude of caucasian privilege as I call it. I'm not going to flame too much. I don't think caucasians would like it if Asians called white people crackers to their face. and all the other slurs that come with being of a certain country or religion. slurs for Polish English Irish Italians etcetera none of you polish, English, irish, or Italians would like it if Desitny directly called you one of those slurs, if he knew you of that ethnicity. Actually, I wouldn't give a fuck in the slightest. Like, no fucks given. At all. Same here. Why do so many people seem to place so much value on words spoken by some random guy on the internet they've never met?
It's rather easy to not be offended when you aren't a marginalized group. There's a huge difference in power between the majority using a slur against a minority and a minority using a slur against the majority. Although I still tend to think we shouldn't call white people crackers either.
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On May 01 2012 23:08 Durp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:05 Silvertine wrote:On May 01 2012 22:59 Chocobo wrote:On May 01 2012 22:51 Silvertine wrote:On May 01 2012 22:46 Fyrewolf wrote:
*sigh*
Destiny uses racist slurs the same way south park uses curse words. So calling a person a racial epithet is like cursing in a cartoon. OK... It's no different from a 7 year old calling you a poopyface, you should not be placing a lot of value on what he says. Sorry but you don't get to redefine words. You can't call a group of black people 'niggers' and then say "Oh, to me it just means 'gentlemen'." Hasn't rap music been doing this for the last 20 years?
This right here is hilarious...
Would be good if mods closed this thread before it goes any further -.-...
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On May 01 2012 23:30 RmoteCntrld wrote:
ITS DESTINY. Did you expect people to read this and be shocked?! lolol We don't need more comments saying "ITS DESTINY LOLLERSKATES".
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Save the drama for your Llama kids, its not a complete surprise that he swears, infact all of us swear at some point (especially when being all inned to the fucking ground). Go move on to something else .__________.
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There's really no point in opening a thread about this, Destiny has too many fanboys that are super quick to run to his rescue.
I don't think he should be a featured streamer, and thought that should've changed a long time ago. For all the people claiming he's not racist or bigoted, the only evidence we have seems to point to the contrary. TL shouldn't be in the business of promoting his ignorance.
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He has already stated why and how he uses racial slurs. I think it's ignorance of yours to not also link material where he talks about this still you made a thread about racial slurs used on his stream.
I know it's extremely hard to believe but using racial slurs doesn't mean you are racist.
Ppl getting apeshit on someone saying a word is getting ridiculous. Why not be against the racism instead??
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Destiny contributes a lot to this community, even if he's a jerk. Embrace and appreciate him, and have love for the diversity of personalities we find ourselves encountering every day. Go on channel /v/ and have a nice chat with him. Don't waste your time by whining on a forum about it. Take a step back and realize how pathetic that is. There's no fun in that. In the end we're all together on this planet trying to make our way in this world. A still more glorious dawn awaits, not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise.
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On May 01 2012 23:32 LanTAs wrote:
Save the drama for your Llama kids, its not a complete surprise that he swears, infact all of us swear at some point (especially when being all inned to the fucking ground). Go move on to something else .__________.
Swearing is not the issue. Did you even read the title of this thread?
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What an useless thread. If this is about orb getting banned from EG, it is their decission. I bet quantic knew what they were signing to their team.
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