On May 01 2012 22:25 altered wrote:
Isnt that whart professionalism is all about? making money?
Isnt that whart professionalism is all about? making money?
No. Professionalism is not insulting other people.
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
On May 01 2012 22:25 altered wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 22:21 Aunvilgod wrote: I really dislike Quantic for allowing Destiny to stay on their team.They pretty much trade professionalism for money. Horrible team. Isnt that whart professionalism is all about? making money? No. Professionalism is not insulting other people. | ||
inermis
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chatuka
1351 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:21 l_Kyo_l wrote: To be honest the way the community responds to these things really confuses, and very nearly disgusts me. The simple response of "who cares?" has to be the most unprocessed, extremist conservative thing to say. How can you honestly say that these things do NOT matter? The ignorance in America + Show Spoiler + and other places I suppose Blows my mind. it's just not america. It's the attitude of caucasian privilege as I call it. I'm not going to flame too much. I don't think caucasians would like it if Asians called white people crackers to their face. and all the other slurs that come with being of a certain country or religion. slurs for Polish English Irish Italians etcetera none of you polish, English, irish, or Italians would like it if Desitny directly called you one of those slurs, if he knew you of that ethnicity. | ||
Ercster
United States603 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:22 noax wrote: Well there are few asian in their team... i'm curious to hear their feeling towards this... especially from Flo well we're going to see what gonna happens... to be honest i don't think it's gonna change or fired him from Quantic... think of it as a cooler and nicer IdrA... Bad comparison for the situation at hand, I don't think IdrA ever pulled racist slang words like that in his famous "IdrA rage" comments. Maybe a "French-Canadians...in general...seem a bit off." on his stream but that's about it :D | ||
Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:24 Silvertine wrote: People keep saying that there's nothing that TL can do about this because Quantic and Destiny clearly don't care. Well how about remove him as a featured streamer? Featuring someone is obviously an endorsement of them to some extent, and TL shouldn't be endorsing someone who spews racism. To be fair, if TL had to de-feature someone every time they used a slur they literally would not have a featured stream list. They do have a process for de-featuring someone but (if Orb's situation was standard protocol) there's an ongoing dialogue about their behavior for quite some time before they actually pull the plug. | ||
Ercster
United States603 Posts
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jax1
Sweden35 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:23 Rawenkeke wrote: Why do people even care? Surely everyone who has posted in this thread has been called worse, didn't see them making a thread about it. Sure it might not have been a guy as famous as Destiny.. I have never been called anything on ladder except that my race is op the last 3 month but its rare. haven't been playing allot lately either. Its maybe that i don't all in that much :D. | ||
Charger
United States2405 Posts
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antihobo
Canada121 Posts
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CP-Jun
Australia278 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:25 inermis wrote: who cares ? get a friggin life instead of posting every single bull^*% on TL or reddit. people get angry while laddering, deal with it. by the way, are you even asian that this "gook" offended you so much ? we got way too many drama queens @ TL nowadays. lol this is like the funniest thing I read. Ha.Ha.Ha. People get angry while laddering and losing - deal with it and just leave without insulting other players : ) we have too many babies here. | ||
Korinai
Canada413 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:25 chatuka wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 23:21 l_Kyo_l wrote: To be honest the way the community responds to these things really confuses, and very nearly disgusts me. The simple response of "who cares?" has to be the most unprocessed, extremist conservative thing to say. How can you honestly say that these things do NOT matter? The ignorance in America + Show Spoiler + and other places I suppose Blows my mind. it's just not america. It's the attitude of caucasian privilege as I call it. I'm not going to flame too much. I don't think caucasians would like it if Asians called white people crackers to their face. and all the other slurs that come with being of a certain country or religion. slurs for Polish English Irish Italians etcetera none of you polish, English, irish, or Italians would like it if Desitny directly called you one of those slurs, if he knew you of that ethnicity. Actually, I wouldn't give a fuck in the slightest. Like, no fucks given. At all. | ||
ssg
United States1770 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:26 ZenithM wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 23:22 noax wrote: Well there are few asian in their team... i'm curious to hear their feeling towards this... especially from Flo well we're going to see what gonna happens... to be honest i don't think it's gonna change or fired him from Quantic... think of it as a cooler and nicer IdrA... Bad comparison for the situation at hand, I don't think IdrA ever pulled racist slang words like that in his famous "IdrA rage" comments. Maybe a "French-Canadians...in general...seem a bit off." on his stream but that's about it :D Tt1 needs to make a thread on this travesty | ||
Chocobo
United States1108 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:24 Silvertine wrote: People keep saying that there's nothing that TL can do about this because Quantic and Destiny clearly don't care. Well how about remove him as a featured streamer? Featuring someone is obviously an endorsement of them to some extent, and TL shouldn't be endorsing someone who spews racism. Or you could just not watch his stream and encourage others not to watch, and if his popularity does disappear then he'll be un-featured. Seems like a better option than demanding for him to be removed when thousands of people still want to watch him. | ||
Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:24 CP-Jun wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2012 23:21 Talin wrote: On May 01 2012 23:20 CP-Jun wrote: On May 01 2012 23:16 Talin wrote: On May 01 2012 23:10 CP-Jun wrote: On May 01 2012 23:08 poorcloud wrote: On May 01 2012 23:05 CP-Jun wrote: While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : ) Precisely, OP raised a valid concern and explained his logic and rationale behind his concern. Much better than all those who felt the need to insult OP. If you think hes over sensitive, just say it, don't have to be a dick about it. And whats up with the hate towards cheese? This is a strategy game where people can pick their options and execute it well. If he dosen't play your way, does it matter? I am sorry. Can you not read? I am not being a dick. I am saying people should not put down OP because he raised a valid point like you said. I don't understand how my sentences were twisted like that. Which valid point did he raise exactly? Destiny was being a dick, which - if it bothers you enough - you sort out by reporting him to TL/Twitch, ie the people that he streams through and promote his stream and who will probably not approve of such content being featured on their respective websites/services (if they decide it goes against their policy). There is no point to be made here. The point is that he is a dick and he shouldn't be a dick unless he is like Paris Hilton who likes to make a video about herself behaving badly for more popularity? By the look of it, he does like he wants more popularity by entertaining people with bad mouthing. In which case, I feel sorry for him that it is the only way he can maintain his popularity. But then he will probably say something like I dont give a fuck! So where is this point that is worth discussing in that? He's being a dick and he shouldn't be. Nobody should be. But people still are. And there are means to deal with them (in most cases). So try doing that. Thread over. =/ I didn't try to discuss anything? "While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : )" Above is what I said, I am not going into whether Destiny is allowed or not allowed or right or wrong that sort of stuff. It gets nowhere. What I know is that OP should not be dissed for this post. You said the OP raised a valid point, which implies that there is a point worth discussing. I said OP raised no points at all and should have acted by reporting Destiny's behaviour to tl, his streaming service, and even Quantic if he was so offended instead of starting a thread on the forums to publicize it. If all of them feel it is unnecessary to take any action against Destiny, the standards in western esports are to blame, not a guy who is a mere product of these standards This thread does not provide meaningful content. It's just a thread where Destiny fans and growth-of-esports fans will bitchslap each other until they get bored or somebody does something about it. | ||
0ne
Spain2464 Posts
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partisan
United States783 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:27 antihobo wrote: People getting butthurt because people say bad words when competing is ridiculous. Wake up. So you're ok with racial slurs. You see no issue with someone being insulted just for the color of their skin. | ||
Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:26 Ercster wrote: First, It's an ethnic slur not a racial one. Second, what can you do? Quantic is unlikely to do anything to him. To your second point: - Contact Quantic sponsors - Pressure TL to un-feature his stream. Now, you can question whether these are too harsh or they are not too harsh. However, I think that trying to raise the level of discourse in the community can only make things better for everyone. This doesn't mean that people need to always be nice, but it does mean that we can get past childish and offensive slurs and ridiculous flaming that happens now. | ||
obsidia
122 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:07 Rococo wrote: I think I'm gonna bookmark this thread for those times when I find myself mistakenly thinking that this community isn't trash. The hypocrisy is rather amazing , all the frustrated little reddit drones who smashed their keyboards trying to ruin orbs career, now laughing about how "boys will be boys" with destiny. Hypocritical childish attitudes like this makes me want e-sports to die if this is what a large percentage of the community consists of. It's absolutely disgusting | ||
chatuka
1351 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:26 Ercster wrote: First, It's an ethnic slur not a racial one. Second, what can you do? Quantic is unlikely to do anything to him. that's pretty sad. If quantic isn't going to discipline Destiny for his provocative actions against an online opponent, that confirms, to me, that it's not a big deal to call asian people Gooks in the eyes of Quantic Gaming.. how sad. | ||
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