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On May 01 2012 23:25 chatuka wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:21 l_Kyo_l wrote:To be honest the way the community responds to these things really confuses, and very nearly disgusts me. The simple response of "who cares?" has to be the most unprocessed, extremist conservative thing to say. How can you honestly say that these things do NOT matter? The ignorance in America + Show Spoiler +and other places I suppose surrounding topics such as racism, and the pushing away of minority groups is something that has been incredibly prevalent for so long. Yet, in 2012 and beyond all odds, we’re still spewing this same aggression towards people in the same manner, and still for no reason. Moreover, this is being done on a professional level, and in a game. Blows my mind. it's just not america. It's the attitude of caucasian privilege as I call it. I'm not going to flame too much. I don't think caucasians would like it if Asians called white people crackers to their face. and all the other slurs that come with being of a certain country or religion. slurs for Polish English Irish Italians etcetera none of you polish, English, irish, or Italians would like it if Desitny directly called you one of those slurs, if he knew you of that ethnicity.
Like I said earlier, I am a gook, and the word just tickles me senseless. It's hilarious. Just listen to how it sounds xD
Yeah, I understand not everyone is going to see it like me, and I'm a big proponent of the, "Don't be a dick" policy on life, but it's all about context. Raging without using those words, it just takes longer to convey the same meaning. If I say, "I do not like you because X,Y,Z." I may as well just say, "You're a dumbfuck."
Saves time. Meaning is still there.
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omg omg
racial slurs on the internet
people being mean on the internet
imma make a drama thread
HER DEPR DEPR DERP
grow up
if your offended
disconnect your internet
THERE ARE ALOT WORSE things out their in the world
if you cant brush off something someone says on the internet
your life is going to be tough
nuff said
User was temp banned for this post.
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On May 01 2012 23:32 superLanboy wrote:
Destiny contributes a lot to this community, even if he's a jerk. Embrace and appreciate him, and have love for the diversity of personalities we find ourselves encountering every day. Go on channel /v/ and have a nice chat with him. Don't waste your time by whining on a forum about it. Take a step back and realize how pathetic that is. There's no fun in that. In the end we're all together on this planet trying to make our way in this world. A still but glorious dawn awaits, not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise.
Great point
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Egads, Destiny said something that pissed someone off?
Must be a day that ends with a Y.
Grass is green, water is wet,
Destiny pisses people off.
These are true facts.
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Destiny is just a butt hurt kid, he gets mad when he loses, does not matter if you all in him or beat him in late game, he still types shit to his opponent. I watched his stream a couple of times, one time he was on kr ladder bad mouthing every player who beat him using his own values of how the game should be played. Do not worry he will probably be playing LoL full time soon where he belongs, with all the other butt hurt raging kiddies.
As for the racial slurs, its just trash talk, its not good and personally I do not like to speak like this on the net or in person, but I do not find it so offensive. Most of my Asian friends and ex never seem to be offended by racial slurs directed towards them, they are pretty confident and happy with themselves and who they are.
Also Warden I enjoyed your games back when you used to stream, should start streaming again bro <3.
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On May 01 2012 23:34 PeachTea wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:25 chatuka wrote:On May 01 2012 23:21 l_Kyo_l wrote:To be honest the way the community responds to these things really confuses, and very nearly disgusts me. The simple response of "who cares?" has to be the most unprocessed, extremist conservative thing to say. How can you honestly say that these things do NOT matter? The ignorance in America + Show Spoiler +and other places I suppose surrounding topics such as racism, and the pushing away of minority groups is something that has been incredibly prevalent for so long. Yet, in 2012 and beyond all odds, we’re still spewing this same aggression towards people in the same manner, and still for no reason. Moreover, this is being done on a professional level, and in a game. Blows my mind. it's just not america. It's the attitude of caucasian privilege as I call it. I'm not going to flame too much. I don't think caucasians would like it if Asians called white people crackers to their face. and all the other slurs that come with being of a certain country or religion. slurs for Polish English Irish Italians etcetera none of you polish, English, irish, or Italians would like it if Desitny directly called you one of those slurs, if he knew you of that ethnicity. Most Asians wouldn't really care if someone used the term "gook" negatively. Most white people wouldn't care if someone used the tern "cracker" negatively. The only people who care in this community are insecure angry trolls. I bet most the people who are saying racism is a huge problem when something like this happens are white guys playing the high horse card. I'm half white so I believe I can make that generalization. Racism is a problem. This particular occurrence isn't part of it. If your so offended by this, become a political activist and actually discuss something that is meaningful. This thread is just ignorance. I am Asian and caucasian. Racial comments at this level are so trivial and not racist at all.
so you're a hapa? are you offended by that slur?
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Destiny is an idiot, spatting words like gook is just so retarded, its like calling someone nigger or as german calling people jew....but oh well, its the internet, u guys just keep watching his stream~~
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On May 01 2012 23:35 Grend wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:29 lahara wrote:On May 01 2012 23:29 obsidia wrote:On May 01 2012 23:07 Rococo wrote:
I think I'm gonna bookmark this thread for those times when I find myself mistakenly thinking that this community isn't trash. The hypocrisy is rather amazing , all the frustrated little reddit drones who smashed their keyboards trying to ruin orbs career, now laughing about how "boys will be boys" with destiny. Hypocritical childish attitudes like this makes me want e-sports to die if this is what a large percentage of the community consists of. It's absolutely disgusting This ^^. couldnt agree more. It obviously are the same people right? Man, everyone else is so stupid and you are so smart. Or perhaps different people choose to respond to different topics and you can leave your self-righteousness at home.
so i dont like some of the opinions ushered in this thread and show this by agreeing to some1s statement about these opinions. THen you come along calling me selfrighteous and calling me out for my opinion which YOU dont like and post about it.
Conclusion: YOu ourelf are also selfrighteous
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On May 01 2012 23:31 chatuka wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:28 Korinai wrote:On May 01 2012 23:25 chatuka wrote:On May 01 2012 23:21 l_Kyo_l wrote:To be honest the way the community responds to these things really confuses, and very nearly disgusts me. The simple response of "who cares?" has to be the most unprocessed, extremist conservative thing to say. How can you honestly say that these things do NOT matter? The ignorance in America + Show Spoiler +and other places I suppose surrounding topics such as racism, and the pushing away of minority groups is something that has been incredibly prevalent for so long. Yet, in 2012 and beyond all odds, we’re still spewing this same aggression towards people in the same manner, and still for no reason. Moreover, this is being done on a professional level, and in a game. Blows my mind. it's just not america. It's the attitude of caucasian privilege as I call it. I'm not going to flame too much. I don't think caucasians would like it if Asians called white people crackers to their face. and all the other slurs that come with being of a certain country or religion. slurs for Polish English Irish Italians etcetera none of you polish, English, irish, or Italians would like it if Desitny directly called you one of those slurs, if he knew you of that ethnicity. Actually, I wouldn't give a fuck in the slightest. Like, no fucks given. At all. i doubt it.
I'm on the same side as Korinai... Why the fuck would you care really? People that get offended by these things need to grow some thicker skin...
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The funny thing is that Gook is actually part of your name since it comes from the Korean word Guk, and for some reason you chose to call yourself Korea (Daehanminguk) in the game. He was basically calling you by your name.
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On May 01 2012 23:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:24 leo23 wrote:On May 01 2012 22:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
1. This is Destiny's personality.
2. Surely Quantic knew about this, as it's nothing new or well-hidden.
3. You all-inned him, which could very well piss him off (as any person may BM you for it).
We don't need an Orb 2.0 here. double standards at its best! Except EG (read as: Alex Garfield) apparently wasn't aware of orb's prior offenses. Quantic is aware of Destiny's stream. EG supposedly never would have signed orb if they had known orb's personality. Quantic feels it's acceptable to hire Destiny, even given his *colorful* personality. I'm not saying that Quantic is necessarily less professional than EG (hell, IdrA is on EG, right?); I'm just saying that different things are being considered for individuals when they're added to a team's roster. When a team adds Person A, they assume they're going to get X, Y, and Z. If they get something negative that they didn't expect, that could be a dealbreaker. Quantic surely expected negative backlash at some point from Destiny's stream, especially after the orb scandal. EG probably didn't expect such things from orb in the first place, especially since he was just being added as a caster. So perhaps it's a double standard when talking about ignoring or acknowledging racism, but it's still important to distinguish the difference between expecting negative attention from one of your players (and being okay with it in the grand scheme of things because he- overall- does more good than bad for your team), and getting unexpected negative attention for your team.
fair enough. however,
should the team/community accept racial/ethnic slurs? i mean where do you draw the line right?
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Grow some balls, in the end nobody cares.
But they way people defend Destiny is just mind melting. There is no reason to defend such behavior other then being an asshole.
But agree no1 cares, grow some balls and stop licking destiny's ass
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On May 01 2012 23:36 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:13 betaman wrote:On May 01 2012 22:46 Doraemon wrote:
wow.everyone is so dismissive of the utilisation of "gook" but the lynchers are out for the "n-word" Destiny uses the "n-word" all the time though, it's kinda his thing to be as offensive as possible. The 12 to 14 year olds and people with that level of maturity that watch his stream lap it up. Comparing Destiny and Orb directly is not relevant, one as a caster, is chosen to represent the community and has to show a degree of professionalism. If any caster used one of these racist terms it would have large detrimental effect on their careers. Destiny, although part of a team, essentially works for himself and seems unlikely to change his ways anytime soon. Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 01:55 betaman wrote:On March 09 2012 01:37 Slardar wrote:
HEY THREAD,
Let Him/Her who is without sin cast the first stone.
People going all wild and rampant about this is not the answer, its the internet. We've all said and done things we may or may not regret, so we should cut Orb some slack. Once he's making millions like the Sports Commentators, we can burn him at the stake but until then stop going on a witchhunt. Although I don't agree at ALL with what he has said, as long as he apologizes (which he has) and makes a conscious effort to act professional in order to lead the scene then all is well. The caveat is you can only do this oh so many times, if you can't be mature and act professional then you should be promptly removed or step down from the scene. I can safely say I've never called someone a nigger but, regardless, im not in a position of prominence in the scene like he is. Do we really want someone that uses such language and talks about burning people for kicks representing this community? Time to start calling out the hypocrites in this thread who, back when the orb controversy was going, felt that he should be damned but now are seeking to make excuses for Destiny. I'll even do you the favor of not quoting your posts bashing orb. It's silly to suggest that a distinction should be made between players and casters, considering that Destiny is less known for his play than for his prominence in the community. You can't apply different standards to those you like and those you don't.
Haha too good, the hypocrisy is delicious!
On May 01 2012 23:38 IOvEggY wrote:
omg omg
racial slurs on the internet
people being mean on the internet
imma make a drama thread
HER DEPR DEPR DERP
grow up
if your offended
disconnect your internet
THERE ARE ALOT WORSE things out their in the world
if you cant brush off something someone says on the internet
your life is going to be tough
nuff said
your logic makes no sense, if you could call your post logic
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On May 01 2012 23:25 chatuka wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:21 l_Kyo_l wrote:To be honest the way the community responds to these things really confuses, and very nearly disgusts me. The simple response of "who cares?" has to be the most unprocessed, extremist conservative thing to say. How can you honestly say that these things do NOT matter? The ignorance in America + Show Spoiler +and other places I suppose surrounding topics such as racism, and the pushing away of minority groups is something that has been incredibly prevalent for so long. Yet, in 2012 and beyond all odds, we’re still spewing this same aggression towards people in the same manner, and still for no reason. Moreover, this is being done on a professional level, and in a game. Blows my mind. it's just not america. It's the attitude of caucasian privilege as I call it. I'm not going to flame too much. I don't think caucasians would like it if Asians called white people crackers to their face. and all the other slurs that come with being of a certain country or religion. slurs for Polish English Irish Italians etcetera none of you polish, English, irish, or Italians would like it if Desitny directly called you one of those slurs, if he knew you of that ethnicity.
Are you saying i will get mad if someone calls me a polack? or Cracker? lol i dont care, it is just name calling and was invented for making fun of people based on nationality and race. There are black people at my school calling everyone a nigger. These words don't mean anything
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On May 01 2012 23:38 IOvEggY wrote:
omg omg
racial slurs on the internet
people being mean on the internet
imma make a drama thread
HER DEPR DEPR DERP
grow up
if your offended
disconnect your internet
THERE ARE ALOT WORSE things out their in the world
if you cant brush off something someone says on the internet
your life is going to be tough
nuff said
Why did you post this? You are completely missing the point. Why doesn't TL just host some gore pictures on the frontpage because that's what's happening in the world.
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On May 01 2012 23:30 Fenrax wrote:
Wow, he has to be fired and his stream has to be permanently removed from this site. Not sure if it already is or not but it has/had to happen. This thread is a mess and the arguments to defend him are ridiculous.
What is your opinion of comedians who make fun of differences between races, or spew insults towards famous people?
Do you demand that they lose their job, do you petition comedy clubs to never hire them? Or do you just realize "that kind of stuff just isn't for me" and choose to watch other forms of comedy?
If that comedian had a TV special, would you write angry letters to the TV station expressing your outrage? Or would you just change the channel?
Look, I understand that you get offended more easily than some people, and have a low tolerance for people behaving badly even if it's in the name of entertainment. But not everyone is like you. To me, racism is a complete joke and words like "gook" are no different from "douchebag" or "moron". I enjoy Destiny's stream, even though I also think Destiny is immature and I don't have a lot of respect for him personally.
I'm sorry that you were offended, but I am a strong believer in the idea of "if you don't like it, don't watch" instead of calling for things to be banned.
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On May 01 2012 23:04 foxmeep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 22:56 Gingerninja wrote:
Just to clear up some misconceptions..
Asians do not find the work "gook" offensive.. infact most would probably look at you with a "huh?" expression.
Koreans might.. but there is more than just Koreans in Asia.
Gook comes from Hanguk which is the Korean language word for Korea. lol, just another fucking idiot. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gook"This explanation ignores the fact that there are many examples of the word's use that pre-date the Korean War."
I assumed one part of the fact wrong, obviously I knew it was used in Vietnam.. I am not just another fucking idiot.
Fact is it was used to refer to Koreans, (and Vietnamese) but it not used to refer to Chinese or Japanese, or many other Asian people.
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Destiny is a little douchebag that benches probably 60 kilo and would never act like this to someone in person, everyone has known this for ages.
It still makes me a little sick that TL features him. He drops the N word and other racial slurs regularly as well as homophobic slurs.
Just write to Quantic's sponsors and hope this immature "pro gamer" is removed from our scene soon enough.
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On May 01 2012 23:38 chatuka wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:34 PeachTea wrote:On May 01 2012 23:25 chatuka wrote:On May 01 2012 23:21 l_Kyo_l wrote:To be honest the way the community responds to these things really confuses, and very nearly disgusts me. The simple response of "who cares?" has to be the most unprocessed, extremist conservative thing to say. How can you honestly say that these things do NOT matter? The ignorance in America + Show Spoiler +and other places I suppose surrounding topics such as racism, and the pushing away of minority groups is something that has been incredibly prevalent for so long. Yet, in 2012 and beyond all odds, we’re still spewing this same aggression towards people in the same manner, and still for no reason. Moreover, this is being done on a professional level, and in a game. Blows my mind. it's just not america. It's the attitude of caucasian privilege as I call it. I'm not going to flame too much. I don't think caucasians would like it if Asians called white people crackers to their face. and all the other slurs that come with being of a certain country or religion. slurs for Polish English Irish Italians etcetera none of you polish, English, irish, or Italians would like it if Desitny directly called you one of those slurs, if he knew you of that ethnicity. Most Asians wouldn't really care if someone used the term "gook" negatively. Most white people wouldn't care if someone used the tern "cracker" negatively. The only people who care in this community are insecure angry trolls. I bet most the people who are saying racism is a huge problem when something like this happens are white guys playing the high horse card. I'm half white so I believe I can make that generalization. Racism is a problem. This particular occurrence isn't part of it. If your so offended by this, become a political activist and actually discuss something that is meaningful. This thread is just ignorance. I am Asian and caucasian. Racial comments at this level are so trivial and not racist at all. so you're a hapa? are you offended by that slur?
No sir, not in the slightest.
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On May 01 2012 23:34 partisan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:32 Ryndika wrote:
He has already stated why and how he uses racial slurs. I think it's ignorance of yours to not also link material where he talks about this still you made a thread about racial slurs used on his stream.
I know it's extremely hard to believe but using racial slurs doesn't mean you are racist. It is.
Here where I live even rly strange ppl get accepted and are rather being kept interesting and fun friend rather than mock on them. (and people who would look down on gay people for example, would be insulted). Still, most people use word "homo"(same as fag basically here) on events like colossus is very homo unit. However does it make like 90% people racists? I don't know how you define that word but there isn't happening anything physical harm to any group nor racial discrimination.
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