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qqK
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany282 Posts
May 01 2012 14:04 GMT
#181
Cant find any racism in the OP's screenshot :|
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 01 2012 14:04 GMT
#182
On May 01 2012 23:02 Sea_Food wrote:
Destiny is an awsome human being. If you dont like him, you are not.


Well that's the end of the thread then.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
May 01 2012 14:04 GMT
#183
On May 01 2012 23:01 motioncity wrote:
ur name has guk in it close enough

Hahaha, this here is a quality thread
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Crue
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia47 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 14:10:10
May 01 2012 14:04 GMT
#184
so the OP is for the good of the community? well that's a suprise. i only wonder if this would still be posted if the racial slur wasn't directed at Warden

EDIT: maybe we should just slowly destroy all the bad words like in nineteen eighy-four. if you have a problem with the language a player directs at you in a game, since you never chose to be exposed to it.. take it up with blizzard and don't start a smear campaign
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TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
May 01 2012 14:04 GMT
#185
On May 01 2012 23:02 SecondSandwich wrote:
This type of language only serves to cast esports in a negative light. It makes no sense to me.

As a ladder game is the epitome of esports. And to the people saying he shouldn't do this because he's a community pillar, he got there for using this SAME language.
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skrjabin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States46 Posts
May 01 2012 14:05 GMT
#186
The long and short of it:

Destiny makes choices to use these words. He thinks they are OK. Mostly, they aren't, but it's his choice. He WOULD suffer for saying these things if he ever wanted to
push further into a legitimate role in this scene. Hands down. You can get away with stuff only for so long, then a team, a sponsor, a friend takes notice and turns off their support.

However, this shouldn't be a surprising revelation from Destiny. And Destiny, who is clearly NOT a community pillar, or interested in being one, can say whatever he wants, whether we think it's despicable or not. You can't just hunt down anyone who uses ugly language on ladder. His choices will catch up to him in some way or another. Go back to bed ... he's not killing eSports.

Log onto Xbox live for like ... 5 minutes and you will hear the worst shit you've ever heard ... ever.
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chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
May 01 2012 14:05 GMT
#187
Not again... *rolleyes*
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Strike_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands704 Posts
May 01 2012 14:05 GMT
#188
This is unacceptable for a community like this who considers themselves so mature and good.
I don't want to have anything to do with destiny anymore or quantic for that matter because they sponsor and support this ridiculous clown.
CP-Jun
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia278 Posts
May 01 2012 14:05 GMT
#189
While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : )
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Silvertine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States509 Posts
May 01 2012 14:05 GMT
#190
On May 01 2012 22:59 Chocobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:51 Silvertine wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:46 Fyrewolf wrote:
*sigh*

Destiny uses racist slurs the same way south park uses curse words.

So calling a person a racial epithet is like cursing in a cartoon. OK...

It's no different from a 7 year old calling you a poopyface, you should not be placing a lot of value on what he says.

Sorry but you don't get to redefine words. You can't call a group of black people 'niggers' and then say "Oh, to me it just means 'gentlemen'." When you use a racial epithet towards someone, especially when its the exact slur that pertains to that persons race, it is racist. It doesn't matter whether you intended for it to be racist or not. That's like calling a woman 'cunt' and when she gets angry saying "I meant it as a compliment"!
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
May 01 2012 14:06 GMT
#191
Also there is no racism here.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
May 01 2012 14:06 GMT
#192
just email to sponsor if you don't like him it more effective way to suffer him than make a thread on TL.
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Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
May 01 2012 14:07 GMT
#193
On May 01 2012 23:02 ssg wrote:
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On May 01 2012 23:00 Takkara wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:57 PraefektMotus wrote:
Anyone who ever says anything remotely inappropriate in a juvenile environment should be punished hard! People are getting offended! Srs bsns!


People in positions of authority or privilege are held to a higher standard, whether they like it or not. This is true in all parts of society including sports, politics, entertainment, etc.


Sports? Here in the US its common place for athletes to use derogatory terms. No one really cares.


No it's not. In what context? Granted what they say at practice and even on the field will definitely be colorful and offensive. However, in a public sphere a professional sports player cannot say racial slurs or call people 'fucking faggots'. If they did and when they have, there has been major controversy.
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
May 01 2012 14:07 GMT
#194
On May 01 2012 22:29 Type|NarutO wrote:
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On May 01 2012 22:23 how wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:17 Fionn wrote:
Destiny?

Racial slurs?

Woah, I never expected this.


My thoughts exactly. There is a SotG he is on where he talks about it a lot with iNcontroL and them, don't remember exactly which episode (not exactly easy to go through those sometimes.) But the jist of what he said is that he never asked to be a community figure and never tries to be one. When you are on his stream, he wants to be himself (and says that is what people should expect.)


To everyone his own. Defeature him from Teamliquid and ban him here, because behaviour like this shouldn't and isn't acceptable here. Can't remember who got defeatured for the n-word, but I guess everyone should be treated the same way.

When Orb got banned and actually lost his job, there were people actually argueing if he actually is racist... which is just wrong in the first place, but now people in here white knight for Destiny because 'thats just how he is' and the OP should 'stop to cry' ?

Seriously, double-standards. I hold no grudge against Destiny and I couldn't care less about racial slurs, because I don't think its the racial slur that he intends to do, but rather to insult the other person. He could easily say son of a bitch or sorts of that and it would also fit the purpose. I just don't think we should start to handle same situations differently, just because someone is more or less known for bm.


Orb didn't get banned though, and he also didn't get defeatured iirc. If TL is going to take action against streamers using derogatory slurs, they need to be consistant. I don't agree at all with what he's done, and although I don't watch his stream and the worst I've gotten from him on ladder is 'asshole', I think this instance and actions like this demand some sort of response from TL on their featuring guidelines, and possibly an apology from Quantic. I understand his value to the team but at what point does it become detrimental?
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Rococo
Profile Joined May 2011
United States331 Posts
May 01 2012 14:07 GMT
#195
I think I'm gonna bookmark this thread for those times when I find myself mistakenly thinking that this community isn't trash.
Disconnect
Profile Joined September 2010
United States84 Posts
May 01 2012 14:07 GMT
#196
On May 01 2012 22:29 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:23 how wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:17 Fionn wrote:
Destiny?

Racial slurs?

Woah, I never expected this.


My thoughts exactly. There is a SotG he is on where he talks about it a lot with iNcontroL and them, don't remember exactly which episode (not exactly easy to go through those sometimes.) But the jist of what he said is that he never asked to be a community figure and never tries to be one. When you are on his stream, he wants to be himself (and says that is what people should expect.)


To everyone his own. Defeature him from Teamliquid and ban him here, because behaviour like this shouldn't and isn't acceptable here. Can't remember who got defeatured for the n-word, but I guess everyone should be treated the same way.

When Orb got banned and actually lost his job, there were people actually argueing if he actually is racist... which is just wrong in the first place, but now people in here white knight for Destiny because 'thats just how he is' and the OP should 'stop to cry' ?

Seriously, double-standards. I hold no grudge against Destiny and I couldn't care less about racial slurs, because I don't think its the racial slur that he intends to do, but rather to insult the other person. He could easily say son of a bitch or sorts of that and it would also fit the purpose. I just don't think we should start to handle same situations differently, just because someone is more or less known for bm.



How do you know there are double standards? How do you know the people that went after Orb are the ones defending Destiny? I think what happened to Orb was absolutely despicable and the people involved in that witch hunt should be ashamed of themselves. Destiny can say whatever the hell he wants and you can either tune in or not.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 14:08:27
May 01 2012 14:07 GMT
#197
On May 01 2012 22:57 Graviton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:54 chatuka wrote:
the intention was pretty racist by Destiny.

Destiny could of just left the game saying
"The absolute epitome of a skilless effing faggot" that's it.. But he adds on top of his rage with lowering his opponent to a non-human slur that degrades asian people. That is the problem here.

I understand that racism is here well and alive in 2012 all around the world. However, better people, especially professional SC2 players need to get over their tribal instincts and just be chill with other cultures.

So it's okay degrade homosexuals? Can we stop complaining about double standards in the community when we use them in regard to offensive language itself? Thanks.

Seriously though, is there any particular reason are bringing up Destiny yet again, after more than year of exactly the same behavior?



the word faggot or queer was not the intended target for the asian opponent. Calling him a faggot when the opponent's sexual preference was not known at the time was not exactly the most hurtful slur you can sling a somebody. But calling
out a person for being of a certain race is most definitely one of the prime example of racial slurring.

If, I called someone in college that was a open homo-sexual, a faggot or queer in public, that would be considered a
hate crime. Somebody in Rutgers got prison time because he supposedly exposed his room-mate as a queer on the internet. The room-mate jumped off the George Washington Bridge.

Professional SC2 players that play with or against other people of different ethnicities are held to a much higher standard of conduct than amateur players that have the freedom of no scrutiny and expectations from Teams, sponsors, etcetera.
If one of Destiny's sponsors was Samsung or Hyundai, and Destiny continues to sprout his racial slurs on online videogames. I would see no reason to see why Samsung or Hyundai would want o Sponsor Quantic Gaming or anybody of that team for that matter.
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
May 01 2012 14:07 GMT
#198
lol first orb, now people are trying to take down destiny? Destiny has been like this for forever and he will not change no matter what the community thinks about him and thats a good thing as he doesn't need too. If I ever become e-famous, im still going to be the same person regardless as im not here to teach kids how to grow up, im here to play starcraft and entertain my viewers (which Destiny NEEDS to do as that is his source of income).
ok
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
May 01 2012 14:08 GMT
#199
On May 01 2012 23:05 Silvertine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:59 Chocobo wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:51 Silvertine wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:46 Fyrewolf wrote:
*sigh*

Destiny uses racist slurs the same way south park uses curse words.

So calling a person a racial epithet is like cursing in a cartoon. OK...

It's no different from a 7 year old calling you a poopyface, you should not be placing a lot of value on what he says.

Sorry but you don't get to redefine words. You can't call a group of black people 'niggers' and then say "Oh, to me it just means 'gentlemen'."

Hasn't rap music been doing this for the last 20 years?
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poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
May 01 2012 14:08 GMT
#200
On May 01 2012 23:05 CP-Jun wrote:
While I understand people standing up for Destiny - I don't understand why they are insulting OP? That's what happens when kids watch something cool on TV and copy it. Age restriction required on the stream because of these kids : )


Precisely, OP raised a valid concern and explained his logic and rationale behind his concern.

Much better than all those who felt the need to insult OP. If you think hes over sensitive, just say it, don't have to be a dick about it.

And whats up with the hate towards cheese? This is a strategy game where people can pick their options and execute it well. If he dosen't play your way, does it matter?
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