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On May 01 2012 22:53 Cinim wrote:Destiny, no reason to act even more like a retard than you already do on your stream.. srsly It's like he is asking to be banned/unfeatured etc. from here. Racial slurs and memes, this guy... lol :D
But don't blame Destiny... blame all those tools that watch his stream.
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Just to clear up some misconceptions..
Asians do not find the work "gook" offensive.. infact most would probably look at you with a "huh?" expression. Koreans might.. but there is more than just Koreans in Asia.
Gook comes from Hanguk which is the Korean language word for Korea.
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On May 01 2012 22:52 Klondikebar wrote: Destiny's behavior has bugged me for a long time. Unfortunately he's managed to ingratiate himself to the community so nothing gets done. Although I am very leery of Quantic since they continue to allow this behavior. Seriously Quantic, get him under control or I will actually start complaining...even if I'm the only one. But his not driving a racist agenda in my opinion i have been watching him and my stand on black or asians havent changed at all. its a word, he uses faggot more, i heard him say black man today for example its just his style when he gets mad.
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On May 01 2012 22:54 chatuka wrote: the intention was pretty racist by Destiny.
Destiny could of just left the game saying "The absolute epitome of a skilless effing faggot" that's it.. But he adds on top of his rage with lowering his opponent to a non-human slur that degrades asian people. That is the problem here.
I understand that racism is here well and alive in 2012 all around the world. However, better people, especially professional SC2 players need to get over their tribal instincts and just be chill with other cultures.
Why the fuck is it ok to call someone a faggot but not a racial slur? Oh, it's not. He needs to quit doing both.
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On May 01 2012 22:55 arioch wrote: Seriously... Trying to get people banned because you are what? Craving attention yourself?
I do not understand the purpose of this thread unless you were massively offended by him, if so, just blacklist him and get on with your life.
Destiny streams for a living - trying to denounce him like this is tantimount to standing up at work and shouting about how one of your colleagues has done something naughty and should be punished.
If someone at my work (or really any work) stood up and called someone else a fucking gook, they would be fired. Almost immediately.
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I don't know if the OP is actually Korean, but your username combined with the offensive gg in Korean is pretty hilarious, although I'm sure the irony is probably lost on Destiny himself.
You destroyed a semi-pro and made him cry, just feel good about it man.
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If only you would have put all your effort in playing a real game than making this post, please, if you cheese, accept that people will call you wtv they may like, play standard and it won't happen. Please, take a shot like a man, stand up.
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Team Liquid in scandals 1) Find something you find offensive 2) Post a thread saying that while you're not offended by it, it's offensive 3) Collectively boycott person 4) When the majority of people are boycotting this person, switch sides and say they are being too harsh 5) Listen to Neutral Milk Hotel at Starbucks
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On May 01 2012 22:54 chatuka wrote: the intention was pretty racist by Destiny.
Destiny could of just left the game saying "The absolute epitome of a skilless effing faggot" that's it.. But he adds on top of his rage with lowering his opponent to a non-human slur that degrades asian people. That is the problem here.
I understand that racism is here well and alive in 2012 all around the world. However, better people, especially professional SC2 players need to get over their tribal instincts and just be chill with other cultures. So it's okay degrade homosexuals? Can we stop complaining about double standards in the community when we use them in regard to offensive language itself? Thanks.
Seriously though, is there any particular reason people are bringing up Destiny yet again, after more than year of exactly the same behavior? It seems like a simple excuse to incite drama.
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Anyone who ever says anything remotely inappropriate in a juvenile environment should be punished hard! People are getting offended! Srs bsns!
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A shame that this guy is in the same team as Naniwa or Sase.
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Destiny raged at you. You can take it.
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On May 01 2012 22:49 PeachTea wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 22:43 Silvertine wrote:On May 01 2012 22:39 PeachTea wrote:On May 01 2012 22:30 Silvertine wrote:It's funny that the only defense seems to be "Well that's Destiny". So I guess the standard is if you are an idiotic racist all the time it's OK, but if you only do it once then it's unacceptable. He shouldn't be a featured streamer when he constantly calls people 'niggers' and 'gooks'. On May 01 2012 22:25 skrjabin wrote: Another attempt at a liquid witch hunt. It can't be a 'witch hunt' when the person did what they are accused of. Read other peoples posts before making an argument against Destiny's defense. He also used witch hunt in a loose comparison. Why don't you try understanding what your reading before posting another idiotic post such as this. The one sided completely skewed attacks that people like you post on this forum make actual discussions impossible because you refuse to come up with something logically sound before posting. Learn to look at the words around the offensive ones before calling someone racist please. " I am going to eat a cracker" "Look at the white cracker kid" See. In the English language many words mean many different things. It isn't that hard to understand. He called people with Asian names 'gooks'. Pretty open and shut case in terms of context. I am east Asian and do not find that offensive in anyway. This thread is absolutely ridiculous. Are we going to try and stomp someone out of the community if they call a white guy a cracker? There are all these absolutely entertaining and great people who make this community awesome and you look at one thing and decide "hes a racist.... burn him". In the nicest way possible... try reading a book or something. Maybe.. just maybe the ignorance will recede from your mind and we will have one less unintelligent human being we will have to deal with.
It's funny that you call him unintelligent and ignorant when only his argument makes logical sense and yours rely on "he's entertaining."
Calling another obviously Asian person (his name) a gook is unambiguously racist and your eating a cracker thing was one of the worst examples I've ever seen, whether you're offended or not does not invalidate Silvertine's argument.
Now whether I actually give a fuck and think he should be punished? No.
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His official response on the matter for those who missed it. Sums up my thoughts pretty nicely.
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On May 01 2012 22:56 Gingerninja wrote: Just to clear up some misconceptions..
Asians do not find the work "gook" offensive.. infact most would probably look at you with a "huh?" expression. Koreans might.. but there is more than just Koreans in Asia.
Gook comes from Hanguk which is the Korean language word for Korea.
...Really? That's it?
So what's the justification for "gook" being a racial slur?
Is it like saying that all Asians are the same, or something?
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On May 01 2012 22:52 Lyter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 22:51 Silvertine wrote:On May 01 2012 22:46 Fyrewolf wrote: *sigh*
Destiny uses racist slurs the same way south park uses curse words. So calling a person a racial epithet is like cursing in a cartoon. OK... How is it any different? It is an electronic screen saying it both ways What?
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Jesus, 8 pages in 4 minutes...
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On May 01 2012 22:51 Silvertine wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 22:46 Fyrewolf wrote: *sigh*
Destiny uses racist slurs the same way south park uses curse words. So calling a person a racial epithet is like cursing in a cartoon. OK... Well... actually, yes.
That's just how Destiny is. And that doesn't excuse him, feel free to think he's an idiot if you want to. But it is his goal to be entertaining and he does this by not censoring his thoughts and that includes spewing out bad language if he's frustrated.
He's not a racist, but uses those words as if they were any other non race specific curse word. If you are of Asian descent and you feel deeply offended by Destiny's language... well... you shouldn't be. It's no different from a 7 year old calling you a poopyface, you should not be placing a lot of value on what he says.
It is your choice on whether you find his antics entertaining or too lowbrow for your tastes. And there's nothing wrong with posting a thread like this. But I do believe that some people are overreacting and are treating this like a criminal offense by a true racist.
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Soon nobody will say anything for fear of getting banned..
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When a player like destiny goes live on stream he is then performing which means it's no biggy.
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