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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On March 26 2012 13:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Hey kita, why did you announce before your shot was actually supposed to hit that you were aiming at Dirk? Wouldn't that make your shot a lot less likely to go through, due to the possibility of having someone protect him? He is informed during the day, which means he would by the time the shot resolves at night, he would already be aware and able to request protection. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On March 26 2012 10:27 Sbrubbles wrote: Wow ... this is quite a lot to take in, Midnight. Still, I really hope you're telling the truth, if only because I wouldn't know what to do if we figured that the kingmaker item was bought by scum (not Velinath) and JJ was one of them. Tell me, what's the relationship between you two and Foolishness? I had him pegged as town for reviving after being killed by mafia, but clearly he knew about you two (and you two about him). What's going on? + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2012 03:51 Foolishness wrote: Lots of shit will happen in this town. So before you can show a frown I ask of you don't look for clues and to Chezinu I am not brown. I assume you still have your kp? If your kill was superceded, then your item must have been refunded. Last thing: not that I don't believe you, but I just can't see any breadcrumbing in Maverick and Gonzaw's posts. Can you elaborate? I made that limerick in a hurry, I had little time and I needed to find a word that would rhyme. This has come as a twist that house Chezinu exists I claim ignorance, I'm not involved in their crime. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On March 26 2012 10:19 Jayjay54 wrote: thanks! "Method development and evaluation to design a material supply concept for variable batch production driven by volatile demand" yes, that still counts as mechanical engineering here in Germany  I spezified in production engineering.good night! With the game, I do not mean to interfere but it turns out I'm an industrial engineer. What I do is optimize the topics you would recognize I know a bit about your thesis, that is clear. JayJay made me giddy there, I want to see his abstract. From the mafia game, I did not mean to get sidetracked. If everyone seems to agree that Kita should be shot in the knee then let's pile on the votes and get this guy cracked. ##Vote: Kitaman27 | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
kitaman, if you don't come up with a nice explanation for why you visited gonzaw night one, you are the lord of th riiiiiift. However, if that's true, he seems to have no KP any more. Lynching third is prolly not the best option. Other than that, "Mementoss" appeared in the QT. If that's really Mementoss and not an alias, dirk has made the most random choice ever. No help at all there. So if this IS Mementoss, I am fine with killing him. I am willing to trust Nisani to a degree, however, I can't believe that he's still alive and scum killed yugi instead of the inventor. Spider-senses here. What do you guys think? @foolishness: only the title exists in english, I am in no mood to translate it all. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On March 26 2012 10:14 Jayjay54 wrote: midnight, if paper would have been the last member, they had 1 1/2 kp each night (he can use both the kp and the ability if he's the last alive), which would kill three persons instead of two. there's at least one more and he has an ability worth sacrificing half a KP. also, this mason network confuses me. we're 13 now if I counted right. There's (assumptions!) 2-3 thirds around, 1 scum and 2-3 cell. Which is around 6 anti town. I was specifically advised that scum may have masons. Do you guys have a QT? How many unique viewers do you have? This is fishy. going to bed now. totally exhausted. I'll hand my final thesis in tomorrow! Yay for master's degree! Here is some players list math for now. I am posting this mostly for reference as some people seem to have a hard time keeping up on the player list, also this should make sure that noone can lurk away and get forgotten (I'm looking at you, Mementoss). I will post my thoughts on possible lynch candidates later. This is the current alive player list if I'm right. 2. Mr. Wiggles 5. Jayjay54 6. Kitaman27 7. Ghost_403 8. MidnightGladius 10. Kenpachi 13. Lanaia(Replaced By Mementoss) 16. Nisani201 19. Adam4167 25. Foolishness Was sent to android hell (and came back) 26. Sbrubbles 28. blubbdavid 29. Phagga 30. Maverick32x 31. Dirk Hardpec So we're at 15 alive Players. - Midnight and Maverick claim 5th party - We have 1 confirmed dead 3rd, up to 3 3rd Party remain - we have 1 confiremd dead cell agent, up to 3 cell agents remain - we have 2 confirmed dead mafias, up to 2 mafias remain. Am I correct that the 4th party is the sleeper cell? This would mean there is a minimum of 5 townies atm. Also there were 6 no-flips on N1/D2. 1 was Gonzaw, who is claimed to be 5th party. 1 was Foolishness, who came back from the dead (or never really was dead). This leaves 4 no-flips death who could all be in not-town roles, making it possible that there is a max of 9 townies atm. The 4 no-flips are Blazinghand, Cwave, Cyber_cheese and RayzorFlash. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On March 26 2012 16:49 Jayjay54 wrote: Ok guys, little sleep. kitaman, if you don't come up with a nice explanation for why you visited gonzaw night one, you are the lord of th riiiiiift. However, if that's true, he seems to have no KP any more. Lynching third is prolly not the best option. Other than that, "Mementoss" appeared in the QT. If that's really Mementoss and not an alias, dirk has made the most random choice ever. No help at all there. So if this IS Mementoss, I am fine with killing dirk. I am willing to trust Nisani to a degree, however, I can't believe that he's still alive and scum killed yugi instead of the inventor. Spider-senses here. What do you guys think? @foolishness: only the title exists in english, I am in no mood to translate it all. EBWOP | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On March 26 2012 17:36 phagga wrote: Sorry for missing the last 48 hours. Real life always gets the best of me on weekends. Here is some players list math for now. I am posting this mostly for reference as some people seem to have a hard time keeping up on the player list, also this should make sure that noone can lurk away and get forgotten (I'm looking at you, Mementoss). I will post my thoughts on possible lynch candidates later. This is the current alive player list if I'm right. 2. Mr. Wiggles 5. Jayjay54 6. Kitaman27 7. Ghost_403 8. MidnightGladius 10. Kenpachi 13. Lanaia(Replaced By Mementoss) 16. Nisani201 19. Adam4167 25. Foolishness Was sent to android hell (and came back) 26. Sbrubbles 28. blubbdavid 29. Phagga 30. Maverick32x 31. Dirk Hardpec So we're at 15 alive Players. - Midnight and Maverick claim 5th party - We have 1 confirmed dead 3rd, up to 3 3rd Party remain - we have 1 confiremd dead cell agent, up to 3 cell agents remain - we have 2 confirmed dead mafias, up to 2 mafias remain. Am I correct that the 4th party is the sleeper cell? This would mean there is a minimum of 5 townies atm. Also there were 6 no-flips on N1/D2. 1 was Gonzaw, who is claimed to be 5th party. 1 was Foolishness, who came back from the dead (or never really was dead). This leaves 4 no-flips death who could all be in not-town roles, making it possible that there is a max of 9 townies atm. The 4 no-flips are Blazinghand, Cwave, Cyber_cheese and RayzorFlash. I guess, I miscounted. However, where did you read that there's 4 and not 6 scum? | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On March 26 2012 17:37 Jayjay54 wrote: I guess, I miscounted. However, where did you read that there's 4 and not 6 scum? Out of the concensus in the thread. I remember that this is what was assumed after Drazerk shot VisceraEyes (Mafia has the same amount of members as the sleeper cell), also IF one assumes that Paperscraps was the last Mafia (as Midnight does), than it is more probable that there were only 4 of them, and 2 of them no-flipped. But you're right, it's possible that the mafia count is higher. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
so how do you guys generally feel about lord of the riiiiift. lynch? yes? no? | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
The D.Engine is hidden for now and his shot is wasted (assuming he only had one like Draz), so hes not really a priority. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
dirk's choice (if really mementoss) doesn't really scream town to me. I still don't think he's from the scum team, because of flavour. other suggestions adam? | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
Dirk inviting Mementoss into the QT tells me that his invite is probably compulsive, and he wanted to waste it. If it were not compulsive, he would have just invited no one, as that is what he effectively did by inviting someone not interested in playing the game. Him wasting that power to be helpful to town, among other things, tells me he has no interest in helping town. Lanaia looked scummy before Mementoss took over, and Mementoss has all but given up on this game to play SNMM9. This is of course assuming that Kita is the Lord of the riiiiiift, (something we cant know until he flips) otherwise he can probably die too. | ||
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
We have the nice Wiggles kita Dirk triangle, whereas I feel wiggles is the most townie of em all. But for now I am more for a Mementoss lynch, till kita explains us his actions. btw, "burned to death" could also coem from Kanti, Lord of the Black Flames. And I am town.. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
Wiggles could go either way. I don't like the way bluelightz was pushing him for the wheatley election, nor his case on ghost. Yet he seems to be genuinely busy, as he was posting very little in other games currently running. Whoever 'burned to death' is, they've been targeting lurkers all game and decided to melt Paperscraps last night, a scum. As long as they keep pushing the town position, I am happy to leave them well enough alone. | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
Dirk just does not care about this game. His "I'm confirmed town" does not have anything to back it up, and he knows that, so it's just misleading. Him adding Mementoss to the qt (according to jayjay) does not make any sense. His attitude is somewhere between "I don't care" and "fuck town". I have no doubt that he will have to go at some point. sbrubbles is still barely contributing. I don't know if he just does not know better or if he has something to hide. However, I feel we would not lose anything by lynching him. Mr. Wiggles case on ghost_403 was a joke. The way he announced it like 3 times, only to post a case that focused on irrelevant / weak points feels very forced. Else there is not too much coming from him. If you think the mason qt will be further helpful, I would go for a lynch of sbrubbles, perhaps Mr. Wiggles. If you think the mason qt is no longer useful, lynch Dirk. This might give us also some information on kitamans lemon-claim. What do you guys think of Kenpachi? And food for thought regarding the "Burned to Death" thing: In Portal 1, when Chell finishes the official test parcour, GLaDOS wants to burn her. GLaDOS also states that the equipment would not be destroyed by the flames. Is it possible that this happens to persons who get into a situation where it is impossible for them to meet their wincondition? | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
1. I dont know how to exactly play in a game yet that has so many people its hard to analyse and its hard to not have your posts just buried. 2. I have a very pro town role, and have never played a pro-town role before. Only vanilla. I didn't want to fuck up in posting and ruin the town by getting myself killed. I actually have stuff to do at work for the majority of the day now but will be back around the end of the day to explain this further. I just felt I should get these two things out of the way before going off as a lot people are starting to want to kill me for my lurkiness. | ||
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Maverick32x
United States311 Posts
As for who to lynch JJ, here are my thoughts- Kita- It sounds like everyone is in agreement that he is some kind of 3rd party. I don't know if this makes him lynch worthy or not? But if we want to be sure that we don't lynch a townie, this seems like the safest option we have... Mementoss- Very inactive- yet active in other threads. This seems to be a huge red flag, and makes me wonder what really is going on... the problem is that he was a replacement that came into a 50+ page game.. Obviously people were suspicious of Lania prior to this, but I also wonder if that was just a by-product of their inability to play the game (or whatever reason they needed to be replaced) Brubbles- I think he is 3rd party also.. His interest in the D. Engine, and other items makes me feel like there is something going on.. a lot of his posts seem to revolve around that, and doesn't seem to post much about anything else.. As for the "Burned to Death" Flavor.. I think it is significant that there were 3 'Burned to Deaths' on that 2nd night, yet only 1 on Night 3... I just wrote a huge post outlining how I think there is only 1 sleeper cell remaining, then I realized that we aren't sure if each one has a KP.. so that got thrown out the window.... Could be a common item that people have? | ||
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