The Modern Korean: Looks - Page 25
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On March 21 2012 03:15 Inverse1 wrote: So i'm wondering, to most of the western world a lot of the common attitudes etc that you've outlined will seem pretty odd, unnecessary and in some cases really quite unpleasant, is there anything happening in korea thats moving towards things being more liberal in terms of individuality, looks, female equality etc? Are any of the younger koreans starting to feel like they want to change anything, or are things getting even more firmly set in the 'fit in but be better' mentality that seems to be the general theme in a lot of the culture from what you've said? I feel kind of sorry for a lot of young people in korea, fitting in with the crowd to avoid bullying etc is enough of a problem here in the UK, but it seems like young Koreans who don't fit in well must be very unhappy. A very informative post anyway it was definitely illuminating so thanks for that! It just seems so strange to me that a country that seems to have so much open progression in terms of technology and culture etc, whilst still maintaining a lot of natural beauty, can be so closed and backward in some of it's social ideology. As OP stated, this thread deals with the extreme cases. There are a lot of people being against this type of ideals, such as hating on men with short height and etc. When I surf around Nate or Pan where a lot of younger generation (15~30) Koreans post responses and share opinions, I can see that they are really against this North Face Parka madness, the short guy stuff (and they say the heart matters more), the sad state of young kids too focused on 'lookism' and such. Of course, there are still plenty of people that are shallow and just like any place in the world, money buys everything. Lot of the airhead pretty girls will enjoy their life and get married to a rich guy, and vice versa. There are always light and shadows and Korea seems a bit extreme in public sense but not too much. Again, nowadays the 'right minded' students and people are not for these things and infact, most of the university students are not able to afford such luxury. I do think it is pretty tough on highschoolers, as well as university students (Like, you gotta fit in with the group, go to MT and stuff), but in general, I don't think people are this extreme. What is true is people do care about how they dress generally, make up and etc. But trust me, random people won't laugh at you because you are wearing a hoodie, they're not that impolite. Only to people they know! | ||
OneOther
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On March 21 2012 03:25 Lucumo wrote: Well, it's pretty much the same for me. Guess I'm glad that I'm not living in Korea. But at least my height and head/body ratio seems perfectly fine(and probably the color of my skin as well). nobody cares about dressing up on a daily basis, unless you are a rich girl and just into that stuff. wear nice things on weekends when you go out, you are making it sound like people get up and work on their for an hour every morning (a small population might, but the reality is not like that) | ||
OneOther
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On March 20 2012 06:42 stephanothegenius wrote: I couldn't have said it better! First I thought I was in allkpop.com with all the generalization and stereotypes especially from people that has never lived in Korea and yes this includes Koreans living oversea. To be quite honest, these are stuff you see in red herring and not what I would expect in teamliquid. This is no different than saying how all americans are fat, lazy, arrogant, and ignorant when in reality most americans are hard working and friendly people like in everywhere else. As ecstatica said it perfectly, reality is, majority of the population don't to plastic surgery especially males, it's actually quite rare among men. Also, normal Korean people don't bluntly make fun of each other based on their apperance. It's actually opposite since Koreans aren't normally as open minded as westerners in expressing their emotions. They might do it jokingly with their close firends but rarely ever infront of people outside of that circle and this includes co-workers. Maybe in the internet but people will say anything behind a computer. I'll admit that plastic surgery is much more common among females in Korea but the way the OP presents it, it's over exaggeration. Most common surgery is the simple double eye-lid surgery (which can be equivalent of braces in the states) and most of them don't go beyond that since other surgeries as nose jobs are still considered somewhat dangerous. Also, keep in mind that the increase numbers of plastic surgeries recently can mostly be contributed to foreign patients that make up to 30-50% depending on the clinics. http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2011-12-26/south-korea-plastic-surgery/52236372/1 http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2011/0323/South-Korea-s-boom-in-medical-tourism If you check the numbers before the medical tourism boom, S.Korea wasn't that much higher than other developed Asian countries like Japan, Hong Kong, etc. Sure I'm not denying the fact that Koreans do tend to be little bit more aware of how they look and how they dress but they are nowhere near the superficial shallow racist idiots that look down on anyone with even the slightest dark complexion. With all due respect to whoever wrote the OP I don't think he ever lived a day in Korea. Those are stuff that you see in internet on naver, daum, and nate, and doesn't really represent the people that actually live in South Korea. Even among the celebrities there are alot of them that haven't went under knife. Nothing more amusing than a self-defeatist attitude that somehow Asians can never look pretty without going under a surgery. I have nothing against the OP but just want people to know that there is always two-sides of the story. This is coming from someone who was born and raised in S.Korea. also, please read this post before you make your conclusions (minus the assumptions about the OP, i have no interest in doing that). none of my cousins who live in korea have gotten plastic surgeries. they are wealthy but normal people living in seoul. i feel like some people are getting a much exaggerated perception of what it's like. | ||
Synwave
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So if this is following art I will assume the head to height ratio is based on the measurement of the head from the chin to the top of the head, is that correct? I would then divide my total height by that to come up with the ratio? Can't say I care all that much but I am curious. If I did this right my chin to top of my skull is 8.75 inches and my total height is 72 inches. So my head to height is basically 1:8.22 Did I do that right? | ||
rotinegg
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On March 21 2012 05:37 Synwave wrote: I tried googling this out of curiosity but I just kept getting compression ratios and how do measure "heads" on liquids. So if this is following art I will assume the head to height ratio is based on the measurement of the head from the chin to the top of the head, is that correct? I would then divide my total height by that to come up with the ratio? Can't say I care all that much but I am curious. If I did this right my chin to top of my skull is 8.75 inches and my total height is 72 inches. So my head to height is basically 1:8.22 Did I do that right? yup. It's not a familiar concept in the western world; I've only seen it mentioned by artists in youtube videos explaining how to draw the human body accurately. | ||
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I'm 176 cm and not asian so maybe I'll be okay when I go there : P | ||
Napoleon53
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I found your describing of the new aspects of modern Korean culture very interesting. I do not mind you doing it without any scientific references. It was your experience and did it very honestly - leaving no detail out to prevail some sort of nationalistic agenda. You cannot be responsible for people taking every word as a fact, since this is just a blog. Of course it is biased as hell. Nevertheless a great read. | ||
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On March 21 2012 05:53 rotinegg wrote: yup. It's not a familiar concept in the western world; I've only seen it mentioned by artists in youtube videos explaining how to draw the human body accurately. Got a 1:8.04 ratio, awwww yeah. I'm 177cm. | ||
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On March 20 2012 20:38 Wildmoon wrote: Why Korean care about their appearance that much? If you read the OP you would understand that this kind of obsession with fashion and looks is a way for them to express their rather new found wealth and status as a land. It's kinda like "Look at me I'm not poor" but in a slightly more.......refined... way. | ||
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But the bottom part, my dear, damn the bottom part... | ||
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