EPTOrb, racist remarks on ladder and personal stream - Page 73
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The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations. | ||
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TheSwamp
United States1497 Posts
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:34 Esorydal wrote: I am a black sc2 player so this is a direct attack on me and you know what I AM deeply offended how can he call himself a PROFFESIONAL CASTER? HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF A PROFFESINAL CASTER LIKE ORB SAID CRACKER ASS WHITE KID? You guys just dont understand this shouldnt be underplayed there needs to be consquences for this , there isnt a place for this kinda racism in proffesional e sports. I don't think anyone would care if they got called cracker ass white kid. Because those words aren't as emoitionally charged as the n word is. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
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mrGRAPE
Singapore293 Posts
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Penecks
United States600 Posts
And if someone called me a "whitey cracker bitch" or something similar on the ladder I think I would just burst out laughing IRL, and it would make my victory that much sweeter. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:34 oBlade wrote: Not only it can be wrong, but a mob often does not represent accurately the whole sum of people that it supposedly represents.After all, a mob could never be wrong. | ||
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Pseudo_Utopia
Canada827 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:10 EngrishTeacher wrote: Who, the fuck, cares. I've BM'ed using that word before, although I'm not a racist in any means. It's just part of the NA culture, TONS of people do it. Even if he is a racist, so what? For EG that obviously hurts their reputation, but the majority of the viewers/players couldn't give less of a fuck. Why would you routinely use a word that by itself may very well offend any listeners? We have here a word that everyone knows offends a fair amount of people, yet we tell people they are idiots for being offended and that's that? How about just change your cussing vocabulary? It's interesting. On one side there's a bunch of people saying the word is offensive and refers to what is really an embarassing and painful portion of our history (not even that long ago...), so it shouldn't be used. On the other, more internet-represented side, we have people saying that the word is just a word, that it shouldn't mean what the first group of people say it means. At the end we have a widespread disagreement over the word's meaning, and the flame wars ensue. Yet, what does a word truly mean? Does potato mean a lawnmower just because you decided so? Maybe to you it does, but to many people around you it still means a potato. In the end, using that word just shows you're so convinced it shouldn't be racist that you're ready to offend people left and right just for that belief. How can such a belief be so strong? Talk about individualistic insensitivity. But being sensitive is being a wimpy faggot these days so what do I know. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:39 harlock78 wrote: Since you are from Germany, you should try this experiment. Get involved with a large Sc II organization that talks about reaching the mainstream. Then on your stream repeatedly say things like : "fucking cockroach jew" " go get gas chambered" on several occasions. Tell us what happens. You understand the difference between mainstream and a local country club? If you want to offend a German, call them a Nazi. That's a serious charge to level against an actual German. | ||
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Fireflies
United Kingdom211 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:29 Esorydal wrote: people like orb will kill E sports, unproffesionalism has no place in this industry I agree, it's so much better when Day9 won't talk about masturbation on an airplane because it might incite an angry reddit mob and all you can get out of Artosis is "Nestea/Clide/MVP is so good right now I'm getting nerd chills all down my spine". Bah, I'd rather have a discussion about monkey milk. | ||
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
There are a couple of reasons why it isn't: 1. He acted as he did on his own stream which has no affiliation with EG. 2. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he acted the way he did before he was even at the EG Lair. His casting for EG, from what I saw was very proffesional and well done. The BIG problem I see here is the fact that he lied to his boss about something they specifically asked him about. That being said I'd ask everyone reading this to look at it from his point of view. He was being questioned my people who he was just hired by and "hunted" by the reddit pitchfork crew of overly dramatic and highly over-sensitive teens. Given that situation I'm positive many of you would lie aswell. Of course doing it two more times and writing a half assed apology on reddit don't help his cause but I do think this is being blown out of proportion, and it needs to stop. The starcraft community is already too sensitive towards these kind of things and threads like this just fuel the fire. | ||
FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:38 Gheed wrote: Because Tiger was forced to quit golfing and Rush was forced to stop being a windbag. Oh, wait. They apologized... they still lost a lot of credibility. | ||
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Chessz
United States644 Posts
http://finenessandaccuracy.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/i-dont-care-if-youre-offended/ | ||
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:42 FeUerFlieGe wrote: They apologized... they still lost a lot of credibility. and a shitload of sponsors | ||
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Equity213
Canada873 Posts
And quit trying to pretend that the only reason SC2 isnt on ESPN is because some folks say the N word once in a while. The SC2 community is by far the most GM of any gaming community I have ever seen, I assure you thats not whats holding it back. Alot of people are pointing out what all this says about Orbs character, and its totally true. But because he has insecurites and charcter flaws does that give u the right to ruin his life? The only people who should be ashamed of themselves here are the ones calling for blood. I hope you face just as much hate if you ever say something stupid. | ||
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Gheed
United States972 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:42 FeUerFlieGe wrote: They apologized... they still lost a lot of credibility. No they didn't. Tiger can fuck as many people he wants and nobody cares. Rush can say whatever stupid shit he wants and nobody cares because that's just what he does. If you're asking Orb to give a fake, forced apology for the sake of appearances, why even bother? | ||
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Nethune
United States22 Posts
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Crue
Australia47 Posts
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:38 magnaflow wrote: LOL. Go watch HoN/Dota/LoL, any other game. The language those players/casters use makes this look like small potatoes. It's people like you that will kill e-sports. People like you who cry bloody murder whenever anyone in the e-sports scene crosses the street when it doesn't say walk. If that is in fact true, then HoN/Dota/LoL will be even further behind SC2 in getting themselves mainstream support. You really want a caster to use racist words when watching at a Barcraft? Would end that bar's support of the event pretty damn quick. | ||
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guluru
United States83 Posts
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