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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On February 29 2012 00:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: My scum team would be Kita/BH/Prplhz
So both me and prpl nay voted your team, preventing our scumbuddy from being included. It's really hard to believe a town player would come to these kind of conclusions totally ignoring the voting record to go with whatever team they feel like.
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On February 29 2012 01:23 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 19:15 Palmar wrote: I will now not agree to any team including kitaman27
Haha because this wasn't the case before right? Now you're just looking for some kind of excuse , rather than calling me dumb the entire game. You've clearly decided from day one who you would be willing to vote for and who you wouldn't. As for your comments, sure you've called someone like VE stupid a bunch of times, but you've never attacked me directly in the 15 or so games we've played together. I know I've been playing with the towns interests in mind so the only logical conclusion is that you're scum.
derp.
And you're wrong. Initially, if you recall, I thought about sending Blazinghand and Dirkzor with myself on the day one team. I actually thought BH was town.
But hey, don't let being wrong stop you, just soldier on and say whatever you like.
@Sentinel, would you be willing to back a team of any combination of the following 5 players, VE/Palmar/prplhz/Dirkzor/Navillus.
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@sentinel, how on earth do you think prplhz is scum after his latest contributions? I have a stronger townread on him than probably anyone in this game.
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@chaos13, get in here and start playing.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On February 27 2012 22:23 prplhz wrote: He also said "Town Palmar wouldn't take all the reponsibility for a team." while saying "He is scum because he is setting Navilus up to take all responsibility for this team.". I don't agree with either of those statements, but what's important is how self contradictory they are and how little he cared about that. He seemed panicky even though it didn't look like he had a clear scum read on any of the team members, instead just attacking with everything he could make up and then settling on actually believing in something later.
Man are you intentionally having bad reading comprehension or what? Let me lay it out for you again.
Originally: Palmar is picking a team. He picks himself (reasonably), dirkzor (also reasonably), then Navillus. At this stage in the game Navillus has like 2 posts, and either dodged making his own team or was otherwise busy / not paying attention.
My criticism with this team was "hey dude, why pick Navillus? It looks like you're setting him up to be the fall guy for when the team fails"
Palmar said, (paraphrased), "If this team fails, I'll take responsibility-- remove me from the team and figure out other dudes for D2"
My response is "given that you personally know that you are town, this would be unreasonable for you to do. If the team fails, I expect you'd fight to get dirk/navi or BOTH removed and keep yourself on the team for D2. If you're town, and the team fails, and both dirk and navi are on the D2 team, you're throwing away a mission for free. This strikes me as not solid town play, and I feel like Palmar is a player who understands this setup and would play solidly as town.
@Palmar: If you don't like the fact that I nayvoted first and stated specific reasons in the like later, let me refer you to my voting history on Radfield's D1 team on Resistance I. I am not afraid to shoot first and ask questions later in this setup, if "shoot first" means "nayvote a team".
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Also giving how hard Palm and Prpl are buddying each other I may need to rethink my scum reads. It doesn't really make sense for them to be sitting on each other's laps so much this game. Or maybe wifom wifom who knows
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Yea, and it looks like you're fishing for arguments. Palmar also responded very adequately for why you shouldn't include him on any other team. Palmar traditionally has good reads, if he can't even pick 2 townies then it's probably because he's scum and he shouldn't be trusted on future teams. Man, that makes perfect sense now doesn't it? What doesn't make sense is, why the hell would scum give town this argument?
Palmar has a habit of pushing his reads very strongly when he's town. In XLVII he wanted lynch to be between him and Ace, inevitably leading town to lynch the other if one flipped town. They were both town in that game. Palmar has a habit of pushing his reads very strongly when he's town.
Also, you have no idea if he would go through with it at all, I doubt it. But if you had not been all prejudiced you should have seen that he was arguing very logically and in a way scum probably wouldn't do.
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On February 29 2012 00:52 prplhz wrote: @[UoN]Sentinel
Why exactly am I scum?
You have less beef in your posts than I'm used to seeing. Usually you could have a wall of text picking apart one or a group of players, this is absent in this thread.
If you think that Blazinghand is scum then why did you yayvote both of the teams he was on?
This was before he started posting fluff and generally not-townie posts.
What team would you send right now?
Any combination of Dirk/VE/Nav/you/Me atm.
If you don't think that Dirkzor/Navilus/Palmar are scum then why did you nayvote that team?
At the time I thought you were suspicious because I know you're usually dickish but your dickishness seemed... off, and also because I thought when you sabotaged team, Nav as a suspicious character would be labeled as spy.
In other words if you were a spy and the team failed, Nav would take the fall.
Are you prepared to yay a Dirkzor/Navilus/Palmar team?
Yessir.
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EBWOP: This part
At the time I thought you were suspicious because I know you're usually dickish but your dickishness seemed... off, and also because I thought when you sabotaged team, Nav as a suspicious character would be labeled as spy.
In other words if you were a spy and the team failed, Nav would take the fall.
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Any combination of Dirk/VE/Nav/you/Me atm.
My mistake, everywhere it says "you" I meant "Palmar". For some reason I flipped the two.
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@Kita -
I'm having doubts about Blazinghand and Navillus. The more he posts, the less concerned I am about Blazinghand, but the less he posts the more concerned I grow with Navillus. I've had a terrible feeling about Nav since D1 and his presence on the team doesn't help matters.
What are your thoughts on Navillus Kita?
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Posting from my phone.
The vote ended heavily against the proposed team, I think everyone who voted voted against. The next one in line may propose his team. I'll be back later with the full votelist.
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Team chaos13: VisceraEyes, Navillus, Blazinghand
Navillus - Nay Palmar - Failed to vote! [UoN]Sentinel - Nay kitaman27 - Failed to vote! Dirkzor - Nay chaos13 - Failed to vote! VisceraEyes - Nay Blazinghand - Yay prplhz - Nay
1 Yays, 8 Nays Team chaos13 is Rejected!
VisceraEyes is the next leader
The current deadline to post a team is in 19 hours at 19:00 GMT (+00:00), or 1 March 04:00 KST. If VisceraEyes has not submitted a team by then, he will be skipped and the next one in line will be Blazinghand.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
God what the hell is this, how am I the only yayvote on a team suggested by someone else
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Time to show what you're made of VE.
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Team VisceraEyes: VisceraEyes, Palmar, prplhz
Team SNMMII GOGOGO
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The current team is Team VisceraEyes: VisceraEyes, Palmar, prplhz
The current deadline to vote on Team VisceraEyes is 24 hours from now, 23:30 GMT (+00:00), or 1 March 08:30 KST.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Although it's possible one of Palm/prplhz is innocent, I don't think it's the case for both of them. I don't like this team.
##vote nay
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
I accidentally made the preceding post in the team thread, like a moron ;_; what should I do
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On February 29 2012 08:32 Blazinghand wrote: I accidentally made the preceding post in the team thread, like a moron ;_; what should I do
On February 29 2012 08:28 Blazinghand wrote: Although it's possible one of Palm/prplhz is innocent, I don't think it's the case for both of them. I don't like this team.
##vote nay
I can confirm that it is identical to this post. Edit it into an amusing emote.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On February 29 2012 08:34 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 08:28 Blazinghand wrote: Although it's possible one of Palm/prplhz is innocent, I don't think it's the case for both of them. I don't like this team.
##vote nay I can confirm that it is identical to this post. Edit it into an amusing emote
Okay, done. (>'_')>~(\\\)
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