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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 29 2012 00:51 GMT
#621
Dear lord my "You and you alone" comment (for BH supporting the Nav/BH/Dirk team) came true.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 29 2012 01:09 GMT
#622
Yeah apparently Chaos13 wasn't feeling too confident in his own suggestion
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
February 29 2012 01:21 GMT
#623
Shit, forgot I had to vote and was rather absent from the forums of TL for the past few days. Broke up with my girlfriend on Sunday and mafia was possibly the last thing on my mind. Sorry about that.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 29 2012 01:27 GMT
#624
;_; sorry to hear that choaser. sink your newfound time into playing mafia and sc2 and becoming the best!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 29 2012 01:37 GMT
#625
On February 29 2012 10:21 chaos13 wrote:
Shit, forgot I had to vote and was rather absent from the forums of TL for the past few days. Broke up with my girlfriend on Sunday and mafia was possibly the last thing on my mind. Sorry about that.


Damn... sorry to hear that man.

@BH chaos bro. no <er> at the end.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 29 2012 01:38 GMT
#626
ugh I even mispelled the "chaos" part of his name. Sorry Chaos13
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 29 2012 05:19 GMT
#627
On February 29 2012 08:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Team VisceraEyes: VisceraEyes, Palmar, prplhz

Team SNMMII GOGOGO


On February 25 2012 17:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Prplhz =

##Vote: Nay


On February 26 2012 13:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
prplhz is looking bad. Palmar saying he's making sense is bad. VE getting drunk 2 nights in a row is bad. New team is GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD.


lol you only have like two posts in between these statements and your team submission. Are you pushing this team because you think it is all town or because you simply want a team to pass? I can't imagine you actually think this is the best team to put forth. You mentioned how you thought I was town earlier. Why aren't I part of your team?

Even if one of prpl or palmar is town, its incredibly difficult to imagine a scenario where they both are.

Voting nay
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 29 2012 07:20 GMT
#628
kita says nay, so I will say yay! It's perfect logic.
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
February 29 2012 08:42 GMT
#629
By any logic I find this team good.

If prplhz and palmar are scum they will be sent together. If they are town we win.

Ill yay
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
February 29 2012 14:49 GMT
#630
Okay. Since no one is posting I've had some time to reread a bit. Following three post are taken from Chaos13's filter. The post are in the same order and right after eactother.

On February 24 2012 06:30 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 06:28 Palmar wrote:
I have a plan. Everyone must provide 3 players that they'll vote into a team, but they cannot include themselves.

Nav/Dirk/VE for me


Navillus/VE/prplhz

Nice of you to include your scumbuddy Dirk in there.

On February 25 2012 02:10 chaos13 wrote:
Nayvoting due to Dirkzor being included.

On February 26 2012 02:50 chaos13 wrote:
Nayvoting. Guess why? Yeah, Dirkzor is on it again.

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 18:18 prplhz wrote:
@chaos13

What team are you going to propose?


I've got two options.

No. 1: chaos13, Navillus, Blazinghand
No. 2: VisceraEyes, Navillus, Blazinghand


Team No. 1 I would of course be most comfortable with, because I am more sure of myself being town than I am of Viscera being town, but I'm also aware that many of you think I'm scum. I would rather substitute myself and have a team that goes through than waste another day.

So I need your input here - how many of you would nayvote Team No.1? Would you yayvote Team No. 2 in it's place?


Note the timestamps. It was over a 2 day period where Chaos13 only made those 3 posts. Why did his read change from VE/Prplhz/Navillus to 2 teams with BH?
Why did the teams he suggested not look like this: Himself/VE/Nav or Himself/Nav/Prplhz or even Nav/VE/Prplhz?

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 29 2012 15:35 GMT
#631
On February 29 2012 17:42 Dirkzor wrote:
By any logic I find this team good.

If prplhz and palmar are scum they will be sent together. If they are town we win.

Ill yay


Explain this logic sir.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 29 2012 15:52 GMT
#632
it's not complicated.... from Dirkzor's perspective he must be town (or he must make us think he's town) so it's a reasonable assumption that if we get this one team through, it should not be hard to add more members.
Computer says mafia
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
February 29 2012 16:32 GMT
#633
While I don't like people answering for me palmar is semi correct.

The reason I only wrote Palmar/Prplhz is beacuse Kita (and BH?) are calling them scumbuddies. So by their logic this team would have 2 scum on it. Not a good start for scum.

But if they are town we should be able to easily ride this to victory.

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 29 2012 16:42 GMT
#634
Palmar and prplhz appear to actually be putting effort into this game, among others. I went back and reread their filters and decided that ultimately, I had a better read on them than I have on others. I think prplhz latching onto Palmar as town so "blindly" freaked me out, but Palmar has been his standard asshole-townie self this game and I can see prplhz recognizing that.

I understand that team came out of nowhere and seems to contradict what I've been saying recently, but I honestly think this team has a great chance to succeed. If anyone thinks I'm off on my reads, let me know how/why.

In the meantime, I'm gonna Yay-Vote.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
February 29 2012 16:56 GMT
#635
To continue on Chaos.

If we assume that Chaos and BH are scum together some peices fits where others does not.

It fits that Chaos changed Prplhz (someone I think is town) for BH (someone I think is scum) without any reasoning.

+ Show Spoiler [Voting pattern] +
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It fits that he voted yay on BH's team. (I can't find why in his filter... Don't think he ever said why?)

Chaos13 also have a huge black hole in his filter... A hole that should have been filled with discussion regarding BH or interaction with him. He have none. He had a small interaction with BH very early in the game which I don't read to much into. I bring this up because it would be logical to distance yourself from your scumbuddies. If this actually means anything I'm not sure. Chaos also does not mention Sentinel at all...


What doesn't fit is that he voted Nay to Kita's team (Dirk/BH/VE) if he was scum with BH. The only reason I can think of is that he thought it would look to scummy if he voted yes on a team with me on it after he have been calling me scum all game - and this makes sense.
It could also be because there was more then 1 scum on the team, indicating that BH and VE are scum. This could also make sense.

All in all chaos just fits perfectly together with BH (from Chaos filter's veiwpoint.)

Add the fact that he have been tunnelling me for the entire game.. The person most find townie (or atleast did at some point). It just adds to the idea that he is scum trying to minimize the town playerpool.

If I get more time I'll try to look at it from BH filter's viewpoint - but if anyone else is up for the task please go ahead. It won't be to night at least. I just skimmed it and BH have very little regarding Chaos.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
February 29 2012 17:00 GMT
#636
I want to add:

That whole "case" is mostly revolving around the assumption that BH is scum. If BH is...

work calling...
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
February 29 2012 17:31 GMT
#637
I want to add:

That whole "case" is mostly revolving around the assumption that BH is scum. If BH is town most of this fall apart. While some of the stuff chaos (His change of team and not giving reason for his vote on BH's team) have done is scummy this analysis was done to try and find a link between scum.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 29 2012 17:40 GMT
#638
On March 01 2012 01:32 Dirkzor wrote:
The reason I only wrote Palmar/Prplhz is beacuse Kita (and BH?) are calling them scumbuddies. So by their logic this team would have 2 scum on it. Not a good start for scum.



Palmar can and HAS coordinated single sabotages from 2-scum teams. I don't know why anyone would consider anything but a 0-scum D1 team to be ideal.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 29 2012 17:46 GMT
#639
I think that's what we've got here. Take a look at Palmar's contributions to Resistance 1 Blaze. Unless he's actually started actually giving a shit as scum (I'll believe it when I see it) then he's town this game. prplhz is the one I'm the most worried about on my team, but after reading his filter, I think we're dealing with town prplhz too.

I could be wrong, but I really feel like this is going to work.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 29 2012 18:01 GMT
#640
On March 01 2012 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think that's what we've got here. Take a look at Palmar's contributions to Resistance 1 Blaze. Unless he's actually started actually giving a shit as scum (I'll believe it when I see it) then he's town this game. prplhz is the one I'm the most worried about on my team, but after reading his filter, I think we're dealing with town prplhz too.

I could be wrong, but I really feel like this is going to work.


Palmar's scum play has come a long way since Resistance 1. Let me point you towards Werewolves II:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309405
IRC Logs: http://www.palmar.org/mafia/
My backup: http://www.mediafire.com/?umb3hqwwgpb9h0g

In this recent game, Palmar put in a good deal of effort and effectively mirrored his town meta, winning the game for his scumteam. Now, in the other game I've played with him, Purgatory, he was scum and was obviously scum and didn't live long, but I just wanted to point out that anyone assuming that Palmar is incapable of playing a good scum needs to reexamine their assumptions.

He is not a bad player.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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