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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
On March 01 2012 01:56 Dirkzor wrote:
What doesn't fit is that he voted Nay to Kita's team (Dirk/BH/VE) if he was scum with BH. The only reason I can think of is that he thought it would look to scummy if he voted yes on a team with me on it after he have been calling me scum all game - and this makes sense.
It could also be because there was more then 1 scum on the team, indicating that BH and VE are scum. This could also make sense.
In the event that Chaos and I were scum together, I don't know why he'd chose to be the vote that tips a 5-4 victory into a 4-5 loss for kita's team. Assuming you and VE are both town and Chaos and I are scum, passing a Dirk BH VE team would have been an excellent D1 team, but Chaos voted Nay. The fact of the matter is a 1-scum D1 team would be optimal. I think your latter explanation makes more sense, if you want to begin with the assumption that I'm scum.
Despite the fact that your latter explanation may make more sense, I think *it* is also total crap. If VE BH Chaos is the scumteam, why on earth would VE and I both yayvote the teams with both of us on it when Sent and Dirk were the thirds, then have VE nayvote it when Nav was the third? Nay you could say "well Chaos13's team was trying to fail, so VE voted against it" but that didn't stop me.
Here's what I think is the case: for the first two VE/BH/X teams, VE thought I was town. Now, VE is less sure (and also suspicious of Nav), so he voted against Chaos13's team, and suggested one without me.
This strikes me as pretty normal town play, not a long-winded distancing strategy. The reason I don't like this team isn't VE, but rather, Palm and Prpl. I think VE could have easily picked some towner players like Nav/Dirk to go on this team and for whatever reason did not. This is not the best D1 team we could send, so I'm voting against it, and so should you.
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
If I get the chance to suggest a team today, I'll be suggesting BH/VE/Dirk... I may swap out VE for Nav if people really want, but these two seem the towniest to me.
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On March 01 2012 03:19 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 01:56 Dirkzor wrote:
What doesn't fit is that he voted Nay to Kita's team (Dirk/BH/VE) if he was scum with BH. The only reason I can think of is that he thought it would look to scummy if he voted yes on a team with me on it after he have been calling me scum all game - and this makes sense.
It could also be because there was more then 1 scum on the team, indicating that BH and VE are scum. This could also make sense.
In the event that Chaos and I were scum together, I don't know why he'd chose to be the vote that tips a 5-4 victory into a 4-5 loss for kita's team. Assuming you and VE are both town and Chaos and I are scum, passing a Dirk BH VE team would have been an excellent D1 team, but Chaos voted Nay. The fact of the matter is a 1-scum D1 team would be optimal. I think your latter explanation makes more sense, if you want to begin with the assumption that I'm scum. Despite the fact that your latter explanation may make more sense, I think *it* is also total crap. If VE BH Chaos is the scumteam, why on earth would VE and I both yayvote the teams with both of us on it when Sent and Dirk were the thirds, then have VE nayvote it when Nav was the third? Nay you could say "well Chaos13's team was trying to fail, so VE voted against it" but that didn't stop me. Here's what I think is the case: for the first two VE/BH/X teams, VE thought I was town. Now, VE is less sure (and also suspicious of Nav), so he voted against Chaos13's team, and suggested one without me. This strikes me as pretty normal town play, not a long-winded distancing strategy. The reason I don't like this team isn't VE, but rather, Palm and Prpl. I think VE could have easily picked some towner players like Nav/Dirk to go on this team and for whatever reason did not. This is not the best D1 team we could send, so I'm voting against it, and so should you.
First of... I don't think VE is scum. He is not my best townread but I don't think he is scum. I was just pondering over why Chaos would vote nay to that team if the 2 of you were scum together. Now i think my first reason fits best.
It now also fits that VE is not scum due to him voting yay on the teams with you. But then again there can be so many reasons why he didn't nay it... (He thought it would look scummy to nayvote a team with himself on it or whatever)
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I'm trying to simultaneously push a team through and choose members I think are likely to cause the mission to succeed.
If it fails, we have information. If it succeeds, we just add one for N2. One of Dirk/Kita/Nav imo. Nav only because of his Venn Diagram. Good shit.
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I WANT TO BELIEEEEEEEEEVE
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Palmar, me too sir. Me too. I hope you're right about prplhz. I'm not cornvinced. Yes, I made up the word cornvinced.
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Team VisceraEyes: VisceraEyes, Palmar, prplhz
Navillus - Failed to vote!
Palmar - Yay
[UoN]Sentinel - Failed to vote!
kitaman27 - Nay
Dirkzor - Yay
chaos13 - Failed to vote!
VisceraEyes - Yay
Blazinghand - Nay
prplhz - Yay
4 Yays, 5 Nays
Team VisceraEyes is Rejected!
Blazinghand is the next leader
The current deadline to post a team is in 24 hours at 00:00 GMT (+00:00), or 2 March 09:00 KST.
If the leader has not submitted a team by then, he will be skipped and the next one in line will be leader.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
CAN'T SABOTAGE IF WE NEVER SEND A TEAM. GG.
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I feel I need to remind you guys that voting is in fact mandatory.
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We are considering ending the game early.
If you don´t decide on a team with the next few leaders, the game will end in a draw
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Weaksauce. What choo got BH?
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
Any chance we're gonna get behind BH/VE/Dirk team?
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I mean, Kitaman tried...if you think you've made any headway into convincing town that you're town feel free to try again. My guess is no though - I'd yay-vote it though. *shrug*
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First sorry I didn't get here in time to vote though honestly I was leaning no on that team, second I dislike that the actual team suggestions are not putting me in, for 1. the obvious reason that I know that I'm town so me being on the team makes it more informative and more likely to succeed from my perspective and 2. I think most people had a pretty town read on me and that was indicated but the actual teams just don't have me on them and that makes me suspicious of the people proposing the teams. And BH I will nay that team.
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Replace yourself with either me or maybe palmar. I don't trust you.
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
Navi would you be interesting in a team of BH/VE/Nav, or are you just generally not a fan of BH/VE/X as a team
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
Ah okay so you think i'm scum ;_; welp
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
So of the two VE/BH teams, we've had one with Sent and one with Dirk.
The one with Dirk was liked by Sent, Kita, VE, and BH.
The one with Sent was liked by Sent, Chaos, VE, BH.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/T03Ub.png)
IF we suggest VE/BH/Dirk, you me and possibly Kita will yayvote, but we'll still need two yayvotes from chaos/dirk/palmar/prpl/nav/sent.
I just need to lay down some mad convincing and get TWO more votes (it's not one because Sent now thinks the scumteam is Kita/BH/Prpl).
An alternative team could be VE/BH/Chaos if people are more comfortable with that, but I think the chief contention people have with the team is that I'm on it.
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Sorry bout that Forumite, I thought I nayvoted 
Ah well. Honestly, I'd be fine with VE/Dirk/Palmar or something along those lines. Nav, probably, Chaos, possibly. If it gets to the point where it's close and we're not going anywhere, I'll yayvote.
For now, I stand pat.
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
OK Sent as you know I am not a palmar fan. Would you be able to get behind, say, VE/Dirk/Nav? This is less preferable than VE/BH/Dirk but vastly superior to anything I think Palmar would suggest, and honestly I'm willing to suggest a team without myself if it's composed of the three townest players rather than whatever we'll end up settling for as the draw deadline comes up.
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