EPTResistance 2 - Tunnel Rats - Page 34
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On March 01 2012 06:44 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm trying to simultaneously push a team through and choose members I think are likely to cause the mission to succeed. If it fails, we have information. If it succeeds, we just add one for N2. One of Dirk/Kita/Nav imo. Nav only because of his Venn Diagram. Good shit. It seems VE likes both Dirk and Nav. We'll be able to get a yayvote from Dirk, since he's yayvoted Nav teams before and has explicitly states he thinks VE is town. With my yayvote, we're up to 4, and we just need ONE vote from Palm Kita Prpl Chaos Sent. I'm gonna go ahead with VE/Dirk/Nav and see what happens. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
Come at me bros | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
If you nayvote this team, please explicitly state why you are naying the team, who you think is scum or whatever, etc. It you fail to vote I will personally e-crap on your e-porch and light it on fire. No "failed to vote"s please. | ||
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
The current deadline to vote on Team Blazinghand is 24 hours from now, 04:30 GMT (+00:00), or 2 March 13:30 KST. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
I'm dissapointed that you guys fail to vote so much... =( | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
fuck wifom and second guessing. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
Glad we could finally come to a compromise  | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
Nay. Sending a team with Dirkzor is a one-way trip to sabotageland. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 01 2012 16:52 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh, I Yay'd that bro. You just nay'd a team earlier because nav was included. Now you're going to approve it? | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
On March 02 2012 01:53 chaos13 wrote: This shouldn't surprise anyone. Nay. Sending a team with Dirkzor is a one-way trip to sabotageland. I don't know why you still dislike me so much (by dislike i mean you think I'm scum. I hope you don't dislike me for real. That would make my day real crappy). I don't think I've been acting scummy at all this game and can't understand your reasoning for thinking I am scum. I would just like to say, and I know this probably will not influence you at all, that I'm not a spy. I can't sabotage. If you are town I would really like you to re read my filter and point out where I went wrong (beside your first case). It actually annoys me a bit since you are the only one who _really_ think I'm scum this game. In other games I can often relate to the reasoning people use to call me scum (when I'm town) but in this game I just don't understand. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Can you please explain to me why you think that at least one, and likely both of Palmar and I are scum? I often sheep a better player than myself as long as they don't do weird stuff. I don't really think Palmar has done anything I wouldn't expect of him yet. He looks town to me. From the Palmar team I can say one thing. The team had one town player who wasn't on the team who voted yes (me). If there's only one spy player on the team, then I have no idea why they didn't just vote it through, they could always make up some bullshit excuse for it. If there was two spies on the team then either both Palmar and myself have bad reads on Dirkzor and Navilus (just about all players in this game do). I'm not going to consider the case where there are three scum on the team because that's just fucking crazy. A spy Palmar could conceivably have included another spy on the team. The thing is that he would have to communicate to the other spy who would sabotage because 2 spies sabotaging on day1 is almost a certain loss for spies. The game essentially becomes transformed from 3/9 to 1/6. The last spy would have to personally sabotage 2 missions out of 3. This is just too crazy and I don't think that a spy Palmar would have done this. I thought about how a spy Palmar might be willing to take this risk since 2 spies on day1 with only 1 sabotage is a decent scenario for scum. It would essentially give them 50% chance of sabotaging the next mission. My problem with this is that Palmar isn't dumb and just because he traditionally didn't care as much as scum as he did as town doesn't mean that he just turns his brain off entirely. Himself and a spy buddy is a huge risk if he is scum. It's also really weird how opposed the team was in form of Blazinghand going all crazy, [UoN]Sentinel very nonchalantly voting nay on a pretty shabby reasonable, and VisceraEyes 2 hour vote switch (the only vote switch in this game so far I think). Maybe he was trying to be in the position I would have been in had the team had been successful, but then he realized how many were against it and how it could actually be nayed. Of the yay votes on Palmar's team he's the one who is most likely to be scum (I know he nayed it eventually Blazinghand, you don't have to point that out). Back to my original question; Can you please explain to me why you think that at least one, and likely both of Palmar and I are scum? Navilus is a guy who votes yes on teams he's on and no on teams he isn't on. His contributions to this game consist of an apology and a Venn diagram. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On March 02 2012 03:28 prplhz wrote: @kita Can you please explain to me why you think that at least one, and likely both of Palmar and I are scum? I often sheep a better player than myself as long as they don't do weird stuff. I don't really think Palmar has done anything I wouldn't expect of him yet. He looks town to me. From the Palmar team I can say one thing. The team had one town player who wasn't on the team who voted yes (me). If there's only one spy player on the team, then I have no idea why they didn't just vote it through, they could always make up some bullshit excuse for it. If there was two spies on the team then either both Palmar and myself have bad reads on Dirkzor and Navilus (just about all players in this game do). I'm not going to consider the case where there are three scum on the team because that's just fucking crazy. A spy Palmar could conceivably have included another spy on the team. The thing is that he would have to communicate to the other spy who would sabotage because 2 spies sabotaging on day1 is almost a certain loss for spies. The game essentially becomes transformed from 3/9 to 1/6. The last spy would have to personally sabotage 2 missions out of 3. This is just too crazy and I don't think that a spy Palmar would have done this. I thought about how a spy Palmar might be willing to take this risk since 2 spies on day1 with only 1 sabotage is a decent scenario for scum. It would essentially give them 50% chance of sabotaging the next mission. My problem with this is that Palmar isn't dumb and just because he traditionally didn't care as much as scum as he did as town doesn't mean that he just turns his brain off entirely. Himself and a spy buddy is a huge risk if he is scum. It's also really weird how opposed the team was in form of Blazinghand going all crazy, [UoN]Sentinel very nonchalantly voting nay on a pretty shabby reasonable, and VisceraEyes 2 hour vote switch (the only vote switch in this game so far I think). Maybe he was trying to be in the position I would have been in had the team had been successful, but then he realized how many were against it and how it could actually be nayed. Of the yay votes on Palmar's team he's the one who is most likely to be scum (I know he nayed it eventually Blazinghand, you don't have to point that out). Back to my original question; Can you please explain to me why you think that at least one, and likely both of Palmar and I are scum? Navilus is a guy who votes yes on teams he's on and no on teams he isn't on. His contributions to this game consist of an apology and a Venn diagram. Now that's the prplhz I remember. | ||
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 02 2012 03:28 prplhz wrote: @kita Can you please explain to me why you think that at least one, and likely both of Palmar and I are scum? Partly due to a process of elimination after town hunting. Partly because of the buddying which I'm not seeing the logical reasons for. If I had to pick one post that cements my belief the most it would be this: On February 23 2012 02:05 Palmar wrote: I just don't know what to think of your townplay. And for me personally, my reads generally rock early in the game, and start sucking later, which is why I see no reason to drag this on. And your logic is still dumb. I was arguing about how the more team suggestions we had, the more information we would have which was helping me late game. In response, Palmar calls me dumb and replies with the above statement. There is literally no reason I can think of why my argument wasn't pro-town yet he opposed it anyway. Apparently my logic is dumb, yet he is the one insisting that more information lead to worse reads. The theme with Palmar has been that he wasn't willing to directly call me out as scum during the period that he needs my vote. When I finally call him out on it, he finally decides that I'm scum. Anyone who opposes Palmar he has attacked in return. This is not a town response. I'm more uncertain on you prpl. I'm willing to consider that sentinel would be scum rather than you since at least you appear to be putting some effort into the game, but it feels as if you're trying to come up with logic that fits your conclusions, rather than conclusions based upon logic. On March 02 2012 03:28 prplhz wrote: From the Palmar team I can say one thing. The team had one town player who wasn't on the team who voted yes (me). If there's only one spy player on the team, then I have no idea why they didn't just vote it through, they could always make up some bullshit excuse for it. If there was two spies on the team then either both Palmar and myself have bad reads on Dirkzor and Navilus (just about all players in this game do). I'm not going to consider the case where there are three scum on the team because that's just fucking crazy. This argument can be applied to nearly every player in the game. I really don't understand what you're saying. The vote was essentially 4v5 since nav would have obviously approved it he wasn't afk. Why doesn't the argument apply to the [UoN]Sentinel, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes 4v5 team? Why doesn't the argument apply to the Dirkzor, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes 4v5 teams? etc. I'm confused how you would come to the conclusion that Palmar must be town, yet ignore the same exact evidence for other things. On March 02 2012 03:28 prplhz wrote: A spy Palmar could conceivably have included another spy on the team. The thing is that he would have to communicate to the other spy who would sabotage because 2 spies sabotaging on day1 is almost a certain loss for spies. The game essentially becomes transformed from 3/9 to 1/6. The last spy would have to personally sabotage 2 missions out of 3. Lets not discuss this... On March 02 2012 03:28 prplhz wrote: It's also really weird how opposed the team was in form of Blazinghand going all crazy, [UoN]Sentinel very nonchalantly voting nay on a pretty shabby reasonable, and VisceraEyes 2 hour vote switch (the only vote switch in this game so far I think). Maybe he was trying to be in the position I would have been in had the team had been successful, but then he realized how many were against it and how it could actually be nayed. Of the yay votes on Palmar's team he's the one who is most likely to be scum (I know he nayed it eventually Blazinghand, you don't have to point that out). Navilus is a guy who votes yes on teams he's on and no on teams he isn't on. His contributions to this game consist of an apology and a Venn diagram. Blazinghand, Senintel, VE, Nav and myself all can't be scum. So clearly at least 2+ town are opposing it. Today's team submission I'm on the fence with. dirk has a really weird response to my questioning the other day. He called me scum after calling me town only a few posts prior. After I brought it up, he responded that he may have decided that I was scum based on everyone else calling me scum, which is really sketchy. VE has been really inconsistent with his reads, but I'm still leaning town. nav hasn't really done anything. I listed him as my weakest town read earlier, but its incredibly difficult for me to differentiate between an apathetic scum and a inactive townie. I'll vote yay since I'd like to play the game out, rather than settle for a draw. However, if the team sabotages, I'm not going to be bullied out of the teams anymore and will likely go back to insisting that I'm included. | ||
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