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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
My actions were. Night 1 (Heads) Kitaman27 (Tails) Jayjay54 Kitaman returned as the riddler. Night 2 (Heads) Forumite (Tails) -_-qualis -_-qualis showed as an Arkham Inmate Night 3 (Heads) Forumite (Tails) Jayjay Forumite investigated as the penguin. Night 4 (Heads) JayJay (Tails) Adam I got shot and died. At day 4 I thought long about if I should claim, I didn't consider myself in any danger of dying to lynches or scum but Kurumi had gotten me really worried that he knew who I was. In addition both Forumite and Qualis were both looking decently scummy and I was also worried they could be killed tonight by town. When I claimed I thought I would be a confirmed blue since it was absolutely impossible that the real two-face wouldn't counter claim me if I had been lying. Because of that I felt pretty confident that Forumite and rg would go along with what I said. I knew rgschwors had claimed freeze and I considered him very unlikely scum. I wasn't sure if Tunkeg really protected he penguin but I was leaning towards it. I claimed I checked qualis but decided to swap Forumites role confirming him as blue to the town but not revealing he was the penguin which I really didn't want to out to catwoman. I thought about if I should claim he was Bane or Freeze and decided with Freeze because I found it unlikely town would believe and accept that all the 4 Veterans were in the game. This in itself was a problem because schwors was freeze. Schwors might just not go along with this so I tried to directly tell him to claim Ivy which made sense because Ivy was likely to be in the game due to her special condition with Catwoman. It also would had made sense for a medic to claim veteran which made schwors beeing Ivy more believable. It would also mean that scum would shoot him tonight. I also tried to bogus claim that Freeze was my bodyguard. It didn't make sense flavor-wise which alot of players quickly commented on but in another way it made sense because all the other townies wanted by third party had protectors. In the end the worst possibly thing happend. Schwors got a huge erection from knowing what I said wasn't true and in his zeal believing he had caught scum his penis flew up and hit him hard in the head. I'm really curious to what you were thinking schwors. Because you went up against a person who you should have considered confirmed town and started trashing everything he said. From Forumites actions, first lurking while I was dealing with schwors and then beeing very hesitant later with how to proceed I think Forumite belived I was two-face and realised what I was doing. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
BM saving rg and saying he saved lay is still beyond comprehension to me. Same thing with kurumi. Why appear as scum? | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On February 23 2012 22:26 Jayjay54 wrote: the shot claim was a little too much, I agree. The timing was fine though, very first post he made day 2, people were voting all over the place...nothing scummy timingwise here imo.... BM saving rg and saying he saved lay is still beyond comprehension to me. Same thing with kurumi. Why appear as scum? No, town DT radfield would never role claim. He would just push for his lynch and only claim if it was absolutely necessary in order to get the target lynched. Lynching sheth would obviously have been easy, given how close to a lynch he was on day 1. I doubt he would even check sheth in that position, but rather someone who he isn't sure about. Good thing we discussed this before you rolled DT! | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On February 23 2012 22:29 syllogism wrote: No, town DT radfield would never role claim. He would just push for his lynch and only claim if it was absolutely necessary in order to get the target lynched. Lynching sheth would obviously have been easy, given how close to a lynch he was on day 1. I doubt he would even check sheth in that position, but rather someone who he isn't sure about. Good thing we discussed this before you rolled DT! yea, still learning, only second game :D but eager to improve nuke: I liked your move pretending you were protected...although it didn't make sense LORE-wise, it could have fit setup-wise. rg destroyed it though. | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
On February 23 2012 22:22 Jackal58 wrote: Ya some vig shot him night one. Some medic let the only confirmed townie die night one. Did you have to claim in the Phone Booth or did you chose to? | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
On February 23 2012 21:56 syllogism wrote: There were too many people in the game who realized that this was the third party palmar for him to ever get lynched. Well I would hope so. Why do you think he would play like this as mafia? He would get shot by some vig or at least DT checked very quickly. Well the further the game dragged on the more certain it was that this play could only be explained from a 3rd party perspective. But early game this wasn't known. If scum had put in an effort early to have Palmar lynched I think this town would have killed him. Not that scum needed to do this, as they won anyway, but at least Palmar put himself in a more vulnerable place by playing this way than he would playing more straigth forward. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
On February 23 2012 22:44 risk.nuke wrote: Also Palmar, did you see my two-face claim? Dude, i was hardly reading the thread, some asshole was spamming it so hard it was completely nonsensical anyway | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:02 Palmar wrote: Dude, i was hardly reading the thread, some asshole was spamming it so hard it was completely nonsensical anyway I twas in the phone qt i don't belive you're Two-Face. i feel confident you're a vanilla as for usefullness i'm going to post my best reads before i go to bed. it's been kind of distracting to read filters with people spamming the thread The only word in the post with capitalized letters. I figured everyone else would definitly miss it but you might catch it since the post was directed at you if you were paying attention. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On February 23 2012 23:02 Palmar wrote: Dude, i was hardly reading the thread, some asshole was spamming it so hard it was completely nonsensical anyway you really need to get a troll symbol when you hit 5k. I am gonna start a petition. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On February 23 2012 22:23 risk.nuke wrote: Yeah, I was about 80% certain you were Two-Face, but I was worried about rg because of what a mess he had made earlier with the three-face fiasco. I didn´t want to claim, I was content being an invisible vigilante that catwoman couldn´t find, but I also wanted to confirm you. Your check on qualis and me made you a very likely town in my eyes, scum wouldn´t risk qualis or me counterclaiming, but I couldn´t be sure, and I really wanted to shut rg up, I was not going to accept a blue getting lynched by him, so both of us claiming was the only alternative I could think of. I struggled with choosing between detective and vigilante since I wanted to be a vigilante but my abillity was inaccurate and in the end I decided to go with was just the safer choice. My actions were. Night 1 (Heads) Kitaman27 (Tails) Jayjay54 Kitaman returned as the riddler. Night 2 (Heads) Forumite (Tails) -_-qualis -_-qualis showed as an Arkham Inmate Night 3 (Heads) Forumite (Tails) Jayjay Forumite investigated as the penguin. Night 4 (Heads) JayJay (Tails) Adam I got shot and died. At day 4 I thought long about if I should claim, I didn't consider myself in any danger of dying to lynches or scum but Kurumi had gotten me really worried that he knew who I was. In addition both Forumite and Qualis were both looking decently scummy and I was also worried they could be killed tonight by town. When I claimed I thought I would be a confirmed blue since it was absolutely impossible that the real two-face wouldn't counter claim me if I had been lying. Because of that I felt pretty confident that Forumite and rg would go along with what I said. I knew rgschwors had claimed freeze and I considered him very unlikely scum. I wasn't sure if Tunkeg really protected he penguin but I was leaning towards it. I claimed I checked qualis but decided to swap Forumites role confirming him as blue to the town but not revealing he was the penguin which I really didn't want to out to catwoman. I thought about if I should claim he was Bane or Freeze and decided with Freeze because I found it unlikely town would believe and accept that all the 4 Veterans were in the game. This in itself was a problem because schwors was freeze. Schwors might just not go along with this so I tried to directly tell him to claim Ivy which made sense because Ivy was likely to be in the game due to her special condition with Catwoman. It also would had made sense for a medic to claim veteran which made schwors beeing Ivy more believable. It would also mean that scum would shoot him tonight. I also tried to bogus claim that Freeze was my bodyguard. It didn't make sense flavor-wise which alot of players quickly commented on but in another way it made sense because all the other townies wanted by third party had protectors. In the end the worst possibly thing happend. Schwors got a huge erection from knowing what I said wasn't true and in his zeal believing he had caught scum his penis flew up and hit him hard in the head. I'm really curious to what you were thinking schwors. Because you went up against a person who you should have considered confirmed town and started trashing everything he said. From Forumites actions, first lurking while I was dealing with schwors and then beeing very hesitant later with how to proceed I think Forumite belived I was two-face and realised what I was doing. Overall I think you should have just named me blue or town instead of lying about me being Mr Freeze. In this game fakeclaims tend to lead to real claims, and then death. OpZ is the only one I can think of who fakeclaimed well, and only because he didn´t have anything to lose. On February 23 2012 22:26 Jayjay54 wrote: the shot claim was a little too much, I agree. The timing was fine though, very first post he made day 2, people were voting all over the place...nothing scummy timingwise here imo.... BM saving rg and saying he saved lay is still beyond comprehension to me. Same thing with kurumi. Why appear as scum? rg's play in general was beyond comprehension to me. It would have made more sense if BM claimed the protection of him, and if he had breadcrumbed earlier, but in the lategame I was openly considering shooting veterans to confirm them, and he was silent about there being a counter-kill tied to shooting him. Scum wouldn´t waste 2 shots to kill a suspicious veteran at that stage of the game, so the only thing that could have happened is me dying because he didn´t speak up. | ||
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rgTheSchworz
Romania425 Posts
I should´nt have lied or I should have lied much more. My reads have been bad, except for JayJay and JB, who btw, should have been lynched D3 instead of Kurumi. D3 lynch decided the game, I had no credibility whatsoever in the endgame. Should have pushed that much more for JB D3, if he had gotten lynched, we would have won. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
On February 24 2012 00:11 rgTheSchworz wrote: gg, I did play horrible after Toad´s CC. I should´nt have lied or I should have lied much more. My reads have been bad, except for JayJay and JB, who btw, should have been lynched D3 instead of Kurumi. D3 lynch decided the game, I had no credibility whatsoever in the endgame. Should have pushed that much more for JB D3, if he had gotten lynched, we would have won. nope, never again lie as town. Until you know how to use lies, don't do it. | ||
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rgTheSchworz
Romania425 Posts
I expected DocH to question my DT check, but not to reveal the whole hocus-pocus. | ||
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rgTheSchworz
Romania425 Posts
Else, scumtell. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
On February 24 2012 00:17 rgTheSchworz wrote: Also, If I want to lie as scum, I have to lie as town, while being helpful. Else, scumtell. That's stupid. Don't lie as town. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On February 24 2012 00:11 rgTheSchworz wrote: gg, I did play horrible after Toad´s CC. I should´nt have lied or I should have lied much more. My reads have been bad, except for JayJay and JB, who btw, should have been lynched D3 instead of Kurumi. D3 lynch decided the game, I had no credibility whatsoever in the endgame. Should have pushed that much more for JB D3, if he had gotten lynched, we would have won. Your Two-Face claim at the end of the Three-Face fiasco kind of worked, at least I thought you were the right one. You shouldn´t have claimed a guilty check on DocH though, it got both of you in trouble, and more or less forced him to claim afterwards. One mistake was wanting to get shot too much. Blues don´t look the same as Veterans, blues are generally more worried about calling attention to themselves, but veterans are more confident, knowing that they are fulfilling their agenda if scum think they are town and shoot them. Therefore when you say that you could claim if needed, without there being any pressure on you, it doesn´t look genuine. | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
On February 24 2012 00:17 rgTheSchworz wrote: Also, If I want to lie as scum, I have to lie as town, while being helpful. Else, scumtell. Hmm, you should never do scummy stuff as town to help your meta as scum... | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Thanks for hosting BC and Curu! I don't really mind the fact that the scum team was allowed to discuss my riddles. I kinda assumed that was the case. lol wish I would have followed up on this one :p | ||
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