[IEM] Kiev Discussion - Page 211
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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected") At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament. Thanks. Neo, 20.1.2012 | ||
Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
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kidd
United States2848 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:01 Doctorbeat wrote: I think TSM wanted M5 not to switch their game. Shyvana ban isn't what was needed, a better top was needed. Darien bullied every single top in this tournament and that turned into jungle losing which turned into mid then bottom losing (if those lanes weren't already losing). Darien was 2x oddone's level in game three because he'd push top then go steal jungle. I really have no clue why irelia was chosen. I like TSM as a team and was rooting for them even though I dislike a few of their personalities, but this tournament just shows that they need a better top player and a less passive (personality) jungler. Dyrus + saint And just wow at diamond getting mvp over darien lol. | ||
zul
Germany5427 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:12 daemir wrote: did carmac say over 230k viewers? HOLY FUCK all streams combined. cs+sc2+lol | ||
Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
Imo Darien is the true MVP. But yea M5 played amazing and it was mostly the team. | ||
fantasticoranges
1327 Posts
too freaking good | ||
Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:09 NeoIllusions wrote: For realz? Guess we know who's taking the blame... I don't think TRM can take the blame. Like others have said, what are you gonna do as irelia vs. shyvana? It was a bad pick, but unless TRM insisted 100% and didn't listen to his team, then it's not his fault. | ||
Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
No. Just LoL. 180+k on Main Stream alone. Then there's the French and Russian Streams. On January 23 2012 01:13 kidd wrote: And just wow at diamond getting mvp over darien lol. Same reason AD Carries look flashy, but it's really the Support who makes the plays and actually wins the game. | ||
nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:06 LaNague wrote: so many games snowballed out of control before 15 mins passed, riot should look at that. this is interesting, because supposedly the korean tournament had longer games | ||
zul
Germany5427 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:13 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: No. Just LoL. 180k on Main Stream alone. Then there's the French and Russian Streams. ah ok great numbers. | ||
Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
*hint hint* wink wink | ||
Shiv.
3534 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:09 NeoIllusions wrote: For realz? Guess we know who's taking the blame... Yeah, when Matt Marcou congratulated Chaox, he really seemed to struggle to keep it cool. They should be bros about it, though. Won't help the team if they start picking on each other now. Great overall performance, heavy derping in game 3, lost you a tournament. To be fair, M5 were flat out the best team this tournament, so I think it's perfectly fine to lose against them at this point, even with their prior trashtalking and shit. | ||
starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:13 Itsmedudeman wrote: I don't think TRM can take the blame. Like others have said, what are you gonna do as irelia vs. shyvana? It was a bad pick, but unless TRM insisted 100% and didn't listen to his team, then it's not his fault. We know who's getting nerfed though... (Irelia) | ||
-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
That is 90k people. There were 2.5 of those watching these finals. shiiiiiit. | ||
Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
Secondly, I didn't really ever see AD kennen actually destroy anyone. It seemed like he was just picked for lane control, but this is probably due to M5 dominating everywhere else without kennen. | ||
Slomo
Germany7196 Posts
Or are they another buch of guys who make their breaktrough to professional gaming in LoL? | ||
Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:17 Slomo wrote: On a side note: Who are the M5 guys? Did they have any DotA or other MobA expirience before? Or are they another buch of guys who make their breaktrough to professional gaming in LoL? M5 is an organisation that has roots in DotA and CounterStrike. But the LoL team they picked up is pretty fresh. | ||
nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:17 Slomo wrote: On a side note: Who are the M5 guys? Did they have any DotA or other MobA expirience before? Or are they another buch of guys who make their breaktrough to professional gaming in LoL? they use to be called Empire. Funny thing is they never really won or qualified anywhere before. They would always mess up during late rounds of tournaments. Finally, they restructured their team and picked up 2 different guys and started stomping everyone | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:14 Shiv. wrote: Yeah, when Matt Marcou congratulated Chaox, he really seemed to struggle to keep it cool. They should be bros about it, though. Won't help the team if they start picking on each other now. Great overall performance, heavy derping in game 3, lost you a tournament. To be fair, M5 were flat out the best team this tournament, so I think it's perfectly fine to lose against them at this point, even with their prior trashtalking and shit. hahaha, okokok.. 1. TSM NEEDS to band together and aim to improve from here. 2nd place at Kiev, fine. Hannover is where it's at now. 2. I don't care what you guys are trying to justify here. Irelia pick may have been a joint TSM decision but Rain Man needed to speak the fuck up. "I can't Irelia vs Shyvana bros" should have been the first sentence out of his mouth when Irelia was suggested. No team is going to force a player onto a champion if that player has qualms about the pick. It is Rain Man's responsbility to veto bad lane matchups. It's his lane ffs, why let your team force your playstyle? | ||
Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
Everyones going crazy about TRM, I feel sorry for him and his kind of foreseeable future :S | ||
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