• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:58
CEST 22:58
KST 05:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced11Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid21
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [ASL21] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2383 users

[IEM] Kiev Discussion - Page 213

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 211 212 213 214 215 217 Next
At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected")

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 20.1.2012
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:36:05
January 22 2012 16:34 GMT
#4241
Worst part is its free shyvanna week T.T
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
Shanba
Profile Joined October 2010
Scotland144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:37:22
January 22 2012 16:36 GMT
#4242
On January 23 2012 01:24 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:20 RogerX wrote:
Just checked out reddit and the LoL forums.

Everyones going crazy about TRM, I feel sorry for him and his kind of foreseeable future :S


He isn't necessarily going to get benched because of getting stomped in the finals. We need to know what went through TSM's minds when that Irelia came up. TRM does have some things to adjust in his play, maybe learn a couple more champions and figure out strats with TSM, but he shouldn't be getting all the blame for their loss.

More champions? He plays a bunch of champions already - tryndamere, irelia, trundle, udyr, teemo, yorick just off the top of my head. The crazy thing about the irelia pick is just about any of his other champions would have been better and offered more control in top lane.

EDIT: Irelia got picked like every game this tournament. Is she considered op in tournament setting or something?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14105 Posts
January 22 2012 16:37 GMT
#4243
On January 23 2012 01:34 raf3776 wrote:
Worst part is its free shyvanna week T.T


thats the best part. Do you know how many people are going to try and use shyv and fail off their ass's.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
fantasticoranges
Profile Joined July 2011
1327 Posts
January 22 2012 16:38 GMT
#4244
On January 23 2012 01:36 Shanba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:24 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:20 RogerX wrote:
Just checked out reddit and the LoL forums.

Everyones going crazy about TRM, I feel sorry for him and his kind of foreseeable future :S


He isn't necessarily going to get benched because of getting stomped in the finals. We need to know what went through TSM's minds when that Irelia came up. TRM does have some things to adjust in his play, maybe learn a couple more champions and figure out strats with TSM, but he shouldn't be getting all the blame for their loss.

More champions? He plays a bunch of champions already - tryndamere, irelia, trundle, udyr, teemo, yorick just off the top of my head. The crazy thing about the irelia pick is just about any of his other champions would have been better and offered more control in top lane.

EDIT: Irelia got picked like every game this tournament. Is she considered op in tournament setting or something?


She's a safe pick that should be able to tie with just about anyone, esp if it goes to a passive lane farm off.

But that doesn't work anymore, as shown by m5.
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
January 22 2012 16:40 GMT
#4245
The whole tournament was characterized by one team gaining a seemingly small advantage early on and then just snowballing from there, to where almost every game was a one sided stomp with very little back and forth or any sign of a comeback.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 22 2012 16:40 GMT
#4246
In other news, fnatic already trying Shyvana top.
currently rooting for myself.
Emnel
Profile Joined October 2011
Greece384 Posts
January 22 2012 16:46 GMT
#4247
Good, i hope they will kick some moskow ass in next weeks tournament.
Nasus feeds as he pleases.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 22 2012 16:50 GMT
#4248
As more people try it out, more strengths/weaknesses will be found. Personally I think more weaknesses than anything as the gameplan is pretty much laid out thanks to m5.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:52:13
January 22 2012 16:51 GMT
#4249
On January 23 2012 01:13 kidd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:01 Doctorbeat wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:00 daemir wrote:
Baylife

I still stand by it, it's a mistake not banning shyvana after seeing it be so good so many times. Teams ban LB vs TSM coz regi plays it, M5 banned cass in last game.


I think TSM wanted M5 not to switch their game.


Shyvana ban isn't what was needed, a better top was needed. Darien bullied every single top in this tournament and that turned into jungle losing which turned into mid then bottom losing (if those lanes weren't already losing). Darien was 2x oddone's level in game three because he'd push top then go steal jungle. I really have no clue why irelia was chosen.

I like TSM as a team and was rooting for them even though I dislike a few of their personalities, but this tournament just shows that they need a better top player and a less passive (personality) jungler. Dyrus + saint

And just wow at diamond getting mvp over darien lol.

I don't agree with you at all. TRM and TOO are both great players, with great mechanics, and they already knows how to play a bunch of heroes. You don't need to change such composition, it's dumb, you will ruin everything they already built together... not to mention they got 2nd and destroyed M5 in the second game ?
They just need to brain more their pick, M5 was a class above everyone for picking. They don't have huge judgement on heroes, they just take what is needed to win their lane. I remember watching TOO's stream some weeks ago and saintvicious telling him that shyvana was a huge jungler, and TOO saying "No, she's bad, I don't like it"... and now look at M5 just crushing face with a shyvana that was actually doing everything (counter jungling, gaining little of advantage everywhere, she was the best hero hands down here).

Also I think against M5, everything is about controlling your own jungle, and TSM just failed to do it in the third game.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
January 22 2012 16:53 GMT
#4250
On January 23 2012 01:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:
As more people try it out, more strengths/weaknesses will be found. Personally I think more weaknesses than anything as the gameplan is pretty much laid out thanks to m5.

The first part is undoubtably true. The level of counter-jungling they were doing with Shyv is almost a shift in the meta. Or at least it's not something anyone's used to dealing with. You basically have to play against her like you're playing against Singed, she gets that tanky and has that much speed. I imagine some weaknesses will be discovered going forward and people will figure out how to deal with her.

That said, I don't think M5 will be hurt too much. They seem too well-coordinated to let losing this strategy be their downfall. :-)
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 22 2012 16:54 GMT
#4251
On January 23 2012 01:33 teamsolid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:26 Shikyo wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:25 nojitosunrise wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:24 teamsolid wrote:
Holy crap, there were 230K people watching the LoL stream? Just how many people exactly play this game?



millions

10mil+ as far as I know

What about the peak # of users on a day-to-day basis actually in the game. Just wondering about how successful Riot is in actually promoting LoL as an e-sport. E.g. If there's normally 500K active users, 230K watching the tournament would be quite impressive


1.3 million concurrent (only EU + NA)
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
January 22 2012 17:24 GMT
#4252
On January 23 2012 01:05 Emnel wrote:
And now im thinking about all those HoN and DotA games where people keep afk farmign their jungle al 60minutes+ game long. Higher skill my ass

Thank goodness you have no idea about either of those games then.
Papvin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark610 Posts
January 22 2012 17:30 GMT
#4253
Just a little fanboying. Just checked out Darien's account on EU west. His most played:
Gankplank (35-5, 87,5%)
Riven (26-3, 89,7%)
Irelia (22-5, 81,5%)
Shyvana (17-3, 85%)
...
Lol...
"It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers", Dukethegold
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
January 22 2012 17:31 GMT
#4254
On January 23 2012 02:30 Papvin wrote:
Just a little fanboying. Just checked out Darien's account on EU west. His most played:
Gankplank (35-5, 87,5%)
Riven (26-3, 89,7%)
Irelia (22-5, 81,5%)
Shyvana (17-3, 85%)
...
Lol...

LOL
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 17:40:29
January 22 2012 17:35 GMT
#4255
On January 23 2012 01:54 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:33 teamsolid wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:26 Shikyo wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:25 nojitosunrise wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:24 teamsolid wrote:
Holy crap, there were 230K people watching the LoL stream? Just how many people exactly play this game?



millions

10mil+ as far as I know

What about the peak # of users on a day-to-day basis actually in the game. Just wondering about how successful Riot is in actually promoting LoL as an e-sport. E.g. If there's normally 500K active users, 230K watching the tournament would be quite impressive


1.3 million concurrent (only EU + NA)

dont know about now, but Chinese server had 800k (peak) concurrent during the beta

and in fact, China ladder have split to about 10 servers , and they are adding more, LOL... so EUW EUNe shit is not even a big deal, EU ppl should not cry...

these servers been called Demacia, Tiamat, Ionia etcs...

Chinese internet OP
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 22 2012 17:43 GMT
#4256
On January 23 2012 02:35 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:54 nojitosunrise wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:33 teamsolid wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:26 Shikyo wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:25 nojitosunrise wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:24 teamsolid wrote:
Holy crap, there were 230K people watching the LoL stream? Just how many people exactly play this game?



millions

10mil+ as far as I know

What about the peak # of users on a day-to-day basis actually in the game. Just wondering about how successful Riot is in actually promoting LoL as an e-sport. E.g. If there's normally 500K active users, 230K watching the tournament would be quite impressive


1.3 million concurrent (only EU + NA)

dont know about now, but Chinese server had 800k (peak) concurrent during the beta

and in fact, China ladder have split to about 10 servers , and they are adding more, LOL... so EUW EUNe shit is not even a big deal, EU ppl should not cry...

these servers been called Demacia, Tiamat, Ionia etcs...

Chinese internet OP


Pretty damn cool to be naming the server you log into by LoL lore.
Almost has a WoW feel to it, lawlz.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 22 2012 17:48 GMT
#4257
On January 23 2012 02:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 02:35 emucxg wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:54 nojitosunrise wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:33 teamsolid wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:26 Shikyo wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:25 nojitosunrise wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:24 teamsolid wrote:
Holy crap, there were 230K people watching the LoL stream? Just how many people exactly play this game?



millions

10mil+ as far as I know

What about the peak # of users on a day-to-day basis actually in the game. Just wondering about how successful Riot is in actually promoting LoL as an e-sport. E.g. If there's normally 500K active users, 230K watching the tournament would be quite impressive


1.3 million concurrent (only EU + NA)

dont know about now, but Chinese server had 800k (peak) concurrent during the beta

and in fact, China ladder have split to about 10 servers , and they are adding more, LOL... so EUW EUNe shit is not even a big deal, EU ppl should not cry...

these servers been called Demacia, Tiamat, Ionia etcs...

Chinese internet OP


Pretty damn cool to be naming the server you log into by LoL lore.
Almost has a WoW feel to it, lawlz.

I hear people in SC2 get placed into Omega Baneling Ultralisk Theta or something.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Makavw
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 17:55:23
January 22 2012 17:53 GMT
#4258
Yea but thats Sc2divisions, the most retarded thing they manged to implement into starcraft.
Imagine if all lol playerbase was dived in division in which there are only 100 players per divison...

I really dont understand the sc2 ladder system, its so bad people need to use third party websites to compere themselves with eachother.
ELO lol system is probable the best possible ladder system in any multiplayer game that tracks your stats.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22239 Posts
January 22 2012 17:55 GMT
#4259
On January 23 2012 01:24 teamsolid wrote:
Holy crap, there were 230K people watching the LoL stream? Just how many people exactly play this game?


Every day, over 1.4 million players log on to play League of Legends
There are over 15 million registered accounts
Between NA and EU servers, peak concurrency has reached 500,000 players
Players spend an aggregate total of 3.7 million hours in-game every day
The official League of Legends site gets 6 million hits a day
League of Legends YouTube videos have nearly 100 million views
Over 1,690,000 viewers tuned into the online broadcast of the League of Legends Season One Championship, with concurrent viewership peaking at over 210,000

Numbers from July last year.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 22 2012 17:58 GMT
#4260
On January 23 2012 02:55 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:24 teamsolid wrote:
Holy crap, there were 230K people watching the LoL stream? Just how many people exactly play this game?


Every day, over 1.4 million players log on to play League of Legends
There are over 15 million registered accounts
Between NA and EU servers, peak concurrency has reached 500,000 players
Players spend an aggregate total of 3.7 million hours in-game every day
The official League of Legends site gets 6 million hits a day
League of Legends YouTube videos have nearly 100 million views
Over 1,690,000 viewers tuned into the online broadcast of the League of Legends Season One Championship, with concurrent viewership peaking at over 210,000

Numbers from July last year.



Those are the old numbers

Here are the new ones
Prev 1 211 212 213 214 215 217 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
RO32 Group C
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
ZZZero.O221
LiquipediaDiscussion
IPSL
16:00
Ro24 Group C
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 366
ROOTCatZ 57
BRAT_OK 56
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 13602
ZZZero.O 221
Dewaltoss 122
KwarK 11
Dota 2
monkeys_forever52
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 267
goblin17
Counter-Strike
fl0m3401
byalli442
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor327
Other Games
summit1g10012
tarik_tv3900
Grubby3607
gofns1674
FrodaN1234
hungrybox628
KnowMe176
C9.Mang0149
Hui .102
Mew2King46
Trikslyr32
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick958
BasetradeTV285
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 24 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 87
• StrangeGG 85
• Hupsaiya 68
• musti20045 40
• Adnapsc2 15
• Response 5
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 39
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift2683
• TFBlade1497
Other Games
• imaqtpie1054
• WagamamaTV384
• Scarra283
• Shiphtur213
• tFFMrPink 14
Upcoming Events
Patches Events
1h 2m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
13h 2m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
14h 2m
Ladder Legends
18h 2m
IPSL
19h 2m
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
BSL
22h 2m
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
CranKy Ducklings
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Wardi Open
1d 13h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 13h
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 19h
RSL Revival
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Ladder Legends
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W3
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.