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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected")

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 20.1.2012
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
January 22 2012 16:20 GMT
#4221
On January 23 2012 01:14 Senx wrote:
LoL pulls in such sick numbers. Really wish there was an esport centric website for it. I mean other than a forum.

*hint hint* wink wink


To be fair, when there is a big competition going Riot does force a shiny link to the stream when you log into the game. I don't know of any other game that does it. It does artificially inflate the numbers if you are considering the amount of people that actually care about the pro scene.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 22 2012 16:20 GMT
#4222
I think Yorick would have been the safest pick top.

Even if he did not do well he can't really lose his lane, and as Chaox/xSpecial seemed to always win their lane, the ult would have been even better.
The legend of Darien lives on
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 22 2012 16:23 GMT
#4223
I actually think running dual AP vs that would have been good. How is shyvana gonna leave lane if Malz or Sion are standing there forcing the wave back?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 22 2012 16:23 GMT
#4224
On January 23 2012 01:20 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:14 Senx wrote:
LoL pulls in such sick numbers. Really wish there was an esport centric website for it. I mean other than a forum.

*hint hint* wink wink


To be fair, when there is a big competition going Riot does force a shiny link to the stream when you log into the game. I don't know of any other game that does it. It does artificially inflate the numbers if you are considering the amount of people that actually care about the pro scene.


"Artificially inflate the numbers"? What does that even mean? Only diehard fans should be counted?

Riot knows marketing (and customer service, but I'm digressing) at an unparalleled level compared to other gaming companies. Props to them on knowing how to publicize their ESPORTS cred.

@Senx, working hard on the hinthintwinkwink part yo~
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
January 22 2012 16:23 GMT
#4225
On January 23 2012 01:19 Keniji wrote:
Shyvanananan in every game now. huehue. Even more so now since it's played top, too.

Back when Shyvanna was realeased I just loved this champ. I played her a lot like it was played in Kiev, but the LoL-community was so retarded to troll or hate on me every fuckin game I picked Shyvanna.
Now, after Kiev everyone will give Shyvanna a try after she played such an important role.
Now I'm not playing LoL anymore and it feels good. :D
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 22 2012 16:24 GMT
#4226
On January 23 2012 01:20 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:14 Senx wrote:
LoL pulls in such sick numbers. Really wish there was an esport centric website for it. I mean other than a forum.

*hint hint* wink wink


To be fair, when there is a big competition going Riot does force a shiny link to the stream when you log into the game. I don't know of any other game that does it. It does artificially inflate the numbers if you are considering the amount of people that actually care about the pro scene.


I didn't know promoting a tournament artificially inflates numbers.

TIL
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
January 22 2012 16:24 GMT
#4227
Holy crap, there were 230K people watching the LoL stream? Just how many people exactly play this game?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 22 2012 16:24 GMT
#4228
On January 23 2012 01:19 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:14 Shiv. wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:08 Shiv. wrote:
TRM almost crying on stage.


For realz?

Guess we know who's taking the blame...

Yeah, when Matt Marcou congratulated Chaox, he really seemed to struggle to keep it cool. They should be bros about it, though. Won't help the team if they start picking on each other now. Great overall performance, heavy derping in game 3, lost you a tournament. To be fair, M5 were flat out the best team this tournament, so I think it's perfectly fine to lose against them at this point, even with their prior trashtalking and shit.


hahaha, okokok..

1. TSM NEEDS to band together and aim to improve from here. 2nd place at Kiev, fine. Hannover is where it's at now.
2. I don't care what you guys are trying to justify here. Irelia pick may have been a joint TSM decision but Rain Man needed to speak the fuck up. "I can't Irelia vs Shyvana bros" should have been the first sentence out of his mouth when Irelia was suggested. No team is going to force a player onto a champion if that player has qualms about the pick. It is Rain Man's responsbility to veto bad lane matchups. It's his lane ffs, why let your team force your playstyle?

No, more like "dude, I can't irelia vs shyvana, dude... like dude"
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
January 22 2012 16:24 GMT
#4229
On January 23 2012 01:20 RogerX wrote:
Just checked out reddit and the LoL forums.

Everyones going crazy about TRM, I feel sorry for him and his kind of foreseeable future :S


He isn't necessarily going to get benched because of getting stomped in the finals. We need to know what went through TSM's minds when that Irelia came up. TRM does have some things to adjust in his play, maybe learn a couple more champions and figure out strats with TSM, but he shouldn't be getting all the blame for their loss.
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 22 2012 16:25 GMT
#4230
On January 23 2012 01:24 teamsolid wrote:
Holy crap, there were 230K people watching the LoL stream? Just how many people exactly play this game?



millions
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
January 22 2012 16:25 GMT
#4231
Team decision to go w/ Irelia. I imagine the thinking was that if they could just keep even top, Regi would win middle with Karthas (who I'm not sure I really like as a pick here) and Chaox/Xpecial could win bot. But that clearly didn't work.

Frankly, I don't think TRM or really much of anyone else has played against a Shyv that was that aggressive. Probably didn't think it would get out of control like it did. Consider it a learning experience and come back in Hanover. That's got to be the takeaway. The team got outplayed, not any individual.

Frankly, Game 1 was where they blew it. They had the "better" side and first pick but still lost hard.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
fantasticoranges
Profile Joined July 2011
1327 Posts
January 22 2012 16:25 GMT
#4232
On January 23 2012 01:20 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:14 Senx wrote:
LoL pulls in such sick numbers. Really wish there was an esport centric website for it. I mean other than a forum.

*hint hint* wink wink


To be fair, when there is a big competition going Riot does force a shiny link to the stream when you log into the game. I don't know of any other game that does it. It does artificially inflate the numbers if you are considering the amount of people that actually care about the pro scene.


No one is counting "the amount of people that actually care about the pro scene"
we're counting how many people were watching it

and god damn there was a lot of people watching it
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 22 2012 16:25 GMT
#4233
On January 23 2012 01:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:20 Gahlo wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:14 Senx wrote:
LoL pulls in such sick numbers. Really wish there was an esport centric website for it. I mean other than a forum.

*hint hint* wink wink


To be fair, when there is a big competition going Riot does force a shiny link to the stream when you log into the game. I don't know of any other game that does it. It does artificially inflate the numbers if you are considering the amount of people that actually care about the pro scene.


"Artificially inflate the numbers"? What does that even mean? Only diehard fans should be counted?

Riot knows marketing (and customer service, but I'm digressing) at an unparalleled level compared to other gaming companies. Props to them on knowing how to publicize their ESPORTS cred.

@Senx, working hard on the hinthintwinkwink part yo~

Just to second this, having spoken to Riot Marketing and Store Management on Client, they're really focused on player service and delivery. Marketing and Delivery is integrated into their operations.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 22 2012 16:26 GMT
#4234
On January 23 2012 01:25 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:24 teamsolid wrote:
Holy crap, there were 230K people watching the LoL stream? Just how many people exactly play this game?



millions

10mil+ as far as I know
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 22 2012 16:26 GMT
#4235
On January 23 2012 01:25 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:20 Gahlo wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:14 Senx wrote:
LoL pulls in such sick numbers. Really wish there was an esport centric website for it. I mean other than a forum.

*hint hint* wink wink


To be fair, when there is a big competition going Riot does force a shiny link to the stream when you log into the game. I don't know of any other game that does it. It does artificially inflate the numbers if you are considering the amount of people that actually care about the pro scene.


"Artificially inflate the numbers"? What does that even mean? Only diehard fans should be counted?

Riot knows marketing (and customer service, but I'm digressing) at an unparalleled level compared to other gaming companies. Props to them on knowing how to publicize their ESPORTS cred.

@Senx, working hard on the hinthintwinkwink part yo~

Just to second this, having spoken to Riot Marketing and Store Management on Client, they're really focused on player service and delivery. Marketing and Delivery is integrated into their operations.

And blizzard just wants to market the marauder. Weee
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 22 2012 16:27 GMT
#4236
Playing normals atm, both teams have a Shyvana.

Hilarious...
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 22 2012 16:29 GMT
#4237
On January 23 2012 01:27 NeoIllusions wrote:
Playing normals atm, both teams have a Shyvana.

Hilarious...

Yeah, I've been trying to pick her up a week or two ago because of TD frequently arguing how good the kid actually is, got yelled at a lot for. Now, I guess I'm getting yelled a lot for, too, but because I'm ''trying to copy someone's playstyle.''

sigh.
currently rooting for myself.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 22 2012 16:31 GMT
#4238
On January 23 2012 01:29 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:27 NeoIllusions wrote:
Playing normals atm, both teams have a Shyvana.

Hilarious...

Yeah, I've been trying to pick her up a week or two ago because of TD frequently arguing how good the kid actually is, got yelled at a lot for. Now, I guess I'm getting yelled a lot for, too, but because I'm ''trying to copy someone's playstyle.''

sigh.

Now imagine the pain of someone emotionally invested in a champion.

T_T_T_T_T_T
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 22 2012 16:33 GMT
#4239
On January 23 2012 01:31 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:29 Shiv. wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:27 NeoIllusions wrote:
Playing normals atm, both teams have a Shyvana.

Hilarious...

Yeah, I've been trying to pick her up a week or two ago because of TD frequently arguing how good the kid actually is, got yelled at a lot for. Now, I guess I'm getting yelled a lot for, too, but because I'm ''trying to copy someone's playstyle.''

sigh.

Now imagine the pain of someone emotionally invested in a champion.

T_T_T_T_T_T

manly tears were shed for you.
I hope farmster Yi stays a secret weapon of abusiveness, though.
currently rooting for myself.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
January 22 2012 16:33 GMT
#4240
On January 23 2012 01:26 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:25 nojitosunrise wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:24 teamsolid wrote:
Holy crap, there were 230K people watching the LoL stream? Just how many people exactly play this game?



millions

10mil+ as far as I know

What about the peak # of users on a day-to-day basis actually in the game. Just wondering about how successful Riot is in actually promoting LoL as an e-sport. E.g. If there's normally 500K active users, 230K watching the tournament would be quite impressive
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