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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected")

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 20.1.2012
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 22 2012 16:13 GMT
#4201
Carmac: Marc Merril.. CEO of Riot Games. You're not going to like this, but we broke 230k viewers here. So we expect from Riot Points and LoL swag to our offices.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
January 22 2012 16:13 GMT
#4202
On January 23 2012 01:01 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:00 daemir wrote:
Baylife

I still stand by it, it's a mistake not banning shyvana after seeing it be so good so many times. Teams ban LB vs TSM coz regi plays it, M5 banned cass in last game.


I think TSM wanted M5 not to switch their game.


Shyvana ban isn't what was needed, a better top was needed. Darien bullied every single top in this tournament and that turned into jungle losing which turned into mid then bottom losing (if those lanes weren't already losing). Darien was 2x oddone's level in game three because he'd push top then go steal jungle. I really have no clue why irelia was chosen.

I like TSM as a team and was rooting for them even though I dislike a few of their personalities, but this tournament just shows that they need a better top player and a less passive (personality) jungler. Dyrus + saint

And just wow at diamond getting mvp over darien lol.
Hi
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
January 22 2012 16:13 GMT
#4203
On January 23 2012 01:12 daemir wrote:
did carmac say

over 230k viewers?

HOLY FUCK

all streams combined. cs+sc2+lol
keep it deep! @zulison
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
January 22 2012 16:13 GMT
#4204
Alot of viewers lol.

Imo Darien is the true MVP. But yea M5 played amazing and it was mostly the team.
fantasticoranges
Profile Joined July 2011
1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:13:44
January 22 2012 16:13 GMT
#4205
230k viewers just for LoL(?)

too
freaking
good
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 22 2012 16:13 GMT
#4206
On January 23 2012 01:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:08 Shiv. wrote:
TRM almost crying on stage.


For realz?

Guess we know who's taking the blame...

I don't think TRM can take the blame. Like others have said, what are you gonna do as irelia vs. shyvana? It was a bad pick, but unless TRM insisted 100% and didn't listen to his team, then it's not his fault.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:14:42
January 22 2012 16:13 GMT
#4207
On January 23 2012 01:13 zul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:12 daemir wrote:
did carmac say

over 230k viewers?

HOLY FUCK

all streams combined. cs+sc2+lol

No. Just LoL. 180+k on Main Stream alone. Then there's the French and Russian Streams.

On January 23 2012 01:13 kidd wrote:
And just wow at diamond getting mvp over darien lol.

Same reason AD Carries look flashy, but it's really the Support who makes the plays and actually wins the game.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 22 2012 16:13 GMT
#4208
On January 23 2012 01:06 LaNague wrote:
so many games snowballed out of control before 15 mins passed, riot should look at that.



this is interesting, because supposedly the korean tournament had longer games
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
January 22 2012 16:14 GMT
#4209
On January 23 2012 01:13 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:13 zul wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:12 daemir wrote:
did carmac say

over 230k viewers?

HOLY FUCK

all streams combined. cs+sc2+lol

No. Just LoL. 180k on Main Stream alone. Then there's the French and Russian Streams.

ah ok great numbers.
keep it deep! @zulison
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
January 22 2012 16:14 GMT
#4210
LoL pulls in such sick numbers. Really wish there was an esport centric website for it. I mean other than a forum.

*hint hint* wink wink
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 22 2012 16:14 GMT
#4211
On January 23 2012 01:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:08 Shiv. wrote:
TRM almost crying on stage.


For realz?

Guess we know who's taking the blame...

Yeah, when Matt Marcou congratulated Chaox, he really seemed to struggle to keep it cool. They should be bros about it, though. Won't help the team if they start picking on each other now. Great overall performance, heavy derping in game 3, lost you a tournament. To be fair, M5 were flat out the best team this tournament, so I think it's perfectly fine to lose against them at this point, even with their prior trashtalking and shit.
currently rooting for myself.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 22 2012 16:14 GMT
#4212
On January 23 2012 01:13 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:08 Shiv. wrote:
TRM almost crying on stage.


For realz?

Guess we know who's taking the blame...

I don't think TRM can take the blame. Like others have said, what are you gonna do as irelia vs. shyvana? It was a bad pick, but unless TRM insisted 100% and didn't listen to his team, then it's not his fault.

We know who's getting nerfed though...


(Irelia)
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:16:07
January 22 2012 16:15 GMT
#4213
[image loading]

That is 90k people. There were 2.5 of those watching these finals. shiiiiiit.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:17:16
January 22 2012 16:17 GMT
#4214
Firstly, I agree that the amount of hate TRM is going to get is ridiculous. Obviously, he was playing the irilea that got destroyed but surely someone on TSM or the team should have and would have stepped in if they thought it was truely auto lose with irilea again.

Secondly, I didn't really ever see AD kennen actually destroy anyone. It seemed like he was just picked for lane control, but this is probably due to M5 dominating everywhere else without kennen.
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
January 22 2012 16:17 GMT
#4215
On a side note: Who are the M5 guys? Did they have any DotA or other MobA expirience before?
Or are they another buch of guys who make their breaktrough to professional gaming in LoL?
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 22 2012 16:18 GMT
#4216
On January 23 2012 01:17 Slomo wrote:
On a side note: Who are the M5 guys? Did they have any DotA or other MobA expirience before?
Or are they another buch of guys who make their breaktrough to professional gaming in LoL?

M5 is an organisation that has roots in DotA and CounterStrike. But the LoL team they picked up is pretty fresh.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 22 2012 16:19 GMT
#4217
On January 23 2012 01:17 Slomo wrote:
On a side note: Who are the M5 guys? Did they have any DotA or other MobA expirience before?
Or are they another buch of guys who make their breaktrough to professional gaming in LoL?



they use to be called Empire.

Funny thing is they never really won or qualified anywhere before. They would always mess up during late rounds of tournaments. Finally, they restructured their team and picked up 2 different guys and started stomping everyone
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 22 2012 16:19 GMT
#4218
On January 23 2012 01:14 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:08 Shiv. wrote:
TRM almost crying on stage.


For realz?

Guess we know who's taking the blame...

Yeah, when Matt Marcou congratulated Chaox, he really seemed to struggle to keep it cool. They should be bros about it, though. Won't help the team if they start picking on each other now. Great overall performance, heavy derping in game 3, lost you a tournament. To be fair, M5 were flat out the best team this tournament, so I think it's perfectly fine to lose against them at this point, even with their prior trashtalking and shit.


hahaha, okokok..

1. TSM NEEDS to band together and aim to improve from here. 2nd place at Kiev, fine. Hannover is where it's at now.
2. I don't care what you guys are trying to justify here. Irelia pick may have been a joint TSM decision but Rain Man needed to speak the fuck up. "I can't Irelia vs Shyvana bros" should have been the first sentence out of his mouth when Irelia was suggested. No team is going to force a player onto a champion if that player has qualms about the pick. It is Rain Man's responsbility to veto bad lane matchups. It's his lane ffs, why let your team force your playstyle?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
January 22 2012 16:19 GMT
#4219
Shyvanananan in every game now. huehue. Even more so now since it's played top, too.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
January 22 2012 16:20 GMT
#4220
Just checked out reddit and the LoL forums.

Everyones going crazy about TRM, I feel sorry for him and his kind of foreseeable future :S
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
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