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Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 07:16:22
December 20 2011 09:39 GMT
#1
So we’re going to try this again…

With Season 2 of League of Legends in full force, there are plenty of tournaments and event going on at the highest level. However, there’s no premiere source for pro scene information, so this is where our little subforum on TeamLiquid is going to take some initiative.

The purpose of this thread is to function like a mini wiki, with major updates cataloguing all the milestones on a monthly basis. Ideas I have are to track teams+rosters at tournaments, tournament placements, roster changes, etc. This is a communal effort where we keep things as detailed as we are able to with our volunteers.
Tenatitively, sections will look like:
+ Show Spoiler [Dec. 2011] +

+ Show Spoiler [Tournaments] +

+ Show Spoiler [Roster Changes] +

Team Rosters will be used to update the Database. I’m open to ideas on what else to include in the sections.
Tournaments with detailed OPs (e.g. all the MLG, WCG) will be linked. Other tournaments lacking details/threads (e.g. NESL Season II Finals) will rely on this thread for recollection.

Things that we will not tolerate in this thread because it simply derails our objectives:
- Drama that has nothing to do with the professional gaming scene (e.g. what pro LoL players do in their personal lives are not relevant to discussion. Things like the “Behkuh” drama should not even be broached in this thread.
- Personal opinions of players or teams that are not analytically based (e.g. CLG dropping Elementz does not suddenly make “CLG a trash team”. You may or may not agree with the decision but your opinion has little impact on the final say.)
- Zero tolerance for offensive meme (e.g. “Scumbag Jatt” has really run its course)

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Dec. 2011
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Tournaments and Placements
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World Cyber Games 2011 @ Busan, South Korea (Dec. 8th 2011 – Dec 11th 2011)
Standings: Chick Dig Elo (US), Gameburg Team (PL), Counter Logic Gaming (CA), Jerome Neggret (FR)

ESL Premiere League Finals (Dec. 19th 2011)
Standings: CLG Crs TSM Dig

CLG Last Call of the Year (Dec. 30th 2011)
Standings: Dig, EG, CLG, MiGiCE
Notes:
- Dinh brothers away on family trip
- TSM absent from tournament
- GoSu Zuna subbed CLG Doublelift for part of the tournament
- v8 Aphromoo subbed for EG Dan Dinh
- Dig I Will Dominate's first tournament with Dig as their new Jungler


Team Roster Changes
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- Elementz leaves CLG bench and join Crs (continues support role)
- SYDTKO benched for Crs
- AL EU becomes CLG EU (Wickd, Froggen, Snoopeh, Krepo, yellowpete)
- I Will Dominate leaves coL and joins Dig (replaces Dig Jatt as jungler)
- vinylcat joins EDG (Extreme Dive Gaming, aka MakNooN’s team)
- Ace merges with MiG (MiG iCE is A team, MiG FiRE is B team)


News
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- Goose bows out from IEM Kiev due to members (mandatorycloud (AP) and LemonGod (support)) not being able to travel. No word yet of which team, if any, will replace Goose


Jan. 2012
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Tournaments and Placements
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IEM Kiev, Site 4 @ Kiev, Ukraine (Jan. 19th 2012 – Jan. 22nd 2012)
Standings: M5, TSM, Dignitas, SK
Notes:
- IEM Kiev is marked with some of the fastest offline games ever, including a 22 min victory by M5 over Sypher
- M5 unravels the professional scene meta with Jungle Shyvana, AD Kennen, and their infamous Support Nunu
- M5 also displayed unparalleled levels of counter-jungling with serial control of enemy buffs
- M5 Genja shares the secret of their teamwork success: “You see hero, you kill hero.”
- IEM Kiev peaks at 230k concurrent viewers (beating out Dreamhack summer 2011)

ASUS Kings of Europe (Jan. 28th 2012 – Jan. 31st 2012)
Standings: CLGeu, M5, mTL, Sypher
Notes:
- CLGeu and M5 show in convincing fashion that they are heads and shoulders above the other EU teams.

IPL Killing Spree: Week 1
Result: CLGna [2:0 ] Goose

IPL Killing Spree: Week 2
Result: Curse [2:1] CLG.NA

IPL Killing Spree: Week 3
Result: RFLX [2:0 ] Epik Gaming
Notes: Due to Curse attending IEM Kiev, this week will feature two new teams, with the winner playing Curse next week.


Team Roster Changes
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- After Kings of Europe, Mistral (mTL) roster joins Absolute Legends (AL) and will play under their new tag.


News
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- CLG.NA and CLG.EU to start weekly scrims against each other on Tuesdays and Thursdays 19:00 GMT (+00:00) to 21:00 GMT (+00:00)
- TSM begin levelling accounts on EUW to start ranked 5s on the EUW Server. Dyrus also levels an account as well.
- Afterhours Gaming League (created by Day[9]) picks up League of Legends. Come support our very own SmashGizmo/Mogwai as he dunks the opposition away!

IEM Hannover World Championship Invites Confirmed (CeBIT, March 6th 2012 - 10th 2012)
  • [image loading] Counter Logic Gaming (CLG.NA)
  • [image loading] Team Solo Mid (TSM)
  • [image loading] Dignitas
  • [image loading] Curse
  • [image loading] SK.Gaming
  • [image loading] Fnatic
  • [image loading] Sypher
  • [image loading] Millenium
  • [image loading] Moscow 5 (M5)
  • [image loading] World Elite (WE)
  • [image loading] E.Home
  • [image loading] Invictus Gaming (iG)

Thanks to LunarBear for help with this month's update


Feb. 2012
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Tournaments and Placements
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Curse Pro Invitational (Feb. 11th 2012 – Feb 25th 2012)
Standings: 1) Dig 2) CLG.na 3-4) TSM EG
Notes:
- Dignitas came in first in the online tournament, winning $5000
- For winning the online tournament, Dig got a trip to San Francisco, USA to play Curse offline
- Dignitas beat Curse, winning an additional $20,000

IPL4 Online Qualifiers (Feb. 11th 2012 – Feb 26th 2012)
Standings: 1) v8 2) aAa 3-4) Mm Crs
Notes:
- Top 4 teams are invited to Las Vegas, USA for IPL4
- For winning the online qualifier, IGN will cover v8’s travel costs
- The qualifier was held on the NA server, which meant many of the EU teams competing had to deal with higher-than-usual ping

IPL Killing Spree: Week 4
Result: Curse [2:1] Reflex

IPL Killing Spree: Week 5
Result: Team SoloMid [2:0 ] Curse

IPL Killing Spree: Week 6
Result: Team SoloMid [2:0 ] Convergence

IPL Killing Spree: Week 7
Result: Mono eSports [2:1] Team SoloMid

MSI NVIDIA Trophy Qualifier #1 (Feb. 25th 2012 – Feb 26th 2012)
Standings: 1) AL 2) Na’Vi.LoL 3-4) Mill exGBT


Team Roster Changes
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- MouseSports (mouz) sign a Russian lineup (Flashy, Blorn, Blazzka, Nexiq, PlagiaT)
- aAa signs Moma and releases Alth0r
- SK signs Dedrayon as their new Jungler
- Mortal TeamWork (mTw) signs former Picture of a Goose (Atlanta, mandatorycloud, Xmithie, BalIs, Curtoky), this leaves EpiK as the last non sponsored team of the NA A tier teams
- Na’Vi signs former MyBoys (SAND, Areneae, CitizenWayne, nesrilaS, and Antogyn)


News
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- IEM Season 6 Championships @ Hannover, Germany begins on March 6th
Groups for IEM Hannover are:
Group A: [image loading] CLG.NA, [image loading] Fnatic, [image loading] against All authority, [image loading] Dignitas, [image loading] Millenium, [image loading] Alternate

Group B: [image loading] TSM, [image loading] SK, [image loading] Moscow Five, [image loading] Sypher, [image loading] Curse, [image loading] Ehome
- Korean channel OnGameNet (OGN) announces their invite League, The Champions Spring 2012, that will start on March 21st. Invited teams include CLG, Fnatic, Emfire (former EDG, winners of Korean WCG), MiG
- CLG announces CLG Circuit, a biweekly tournament that will go on for six months
- SK Gaming announces a Pro and Amateur tournament


Mar. 2012
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Tournaments and Placements
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IEM Season 6 Championship @ Hannover, Germany (Mar. 6th 2012 – Mar. 12th 2012)
Standings: 1) M5 2) Dig 3) CLG.na 4) aAa
Notes:
- Curse advances to quarterfinals despite having a last minute German substitute
- Wickd could have subbed for Curse but only if all teams of Group B agree. TSM vetoed.
- Sona massively less powerful she's only been picked 6 times as of the quarterfinals, and lost every game. Small nerfs seem to have had a big impact, though it just just be due to..
- Janna. Janna's been picked or banned in 91% of the games so far, and she has a 68% winrate for her team. Expect to see significant nerfs to her in the future, now that Riot realizes that they gutted everyone not named Janna in her role.
- Curse fails to win a single game without their German substitute, and their main player proceeds to play one of the worst games in the tournament.

Sennheiser Hear To Win LoL Cup (Mar. 16th 2012 – Mar. 17th 2012)
Standings: 1) aAa 2) AL 3) WW 4) mouz
Notes:
- Much like HomeStory Cup for SCII, HTW Cup invited a number of European teams to play live at TaKe’s apartment

OnGameNet The Champions Spring 2012 (Mar. 21st 2012 – May 19th 2012)
Week 1 Standings: MiG Frost and MKZ Qualified for RO8
Week 2 Standings: Xenics Storm and CLG.na Qualified for RO8
Notes:
- OGN The Champions is the first LoL league to be held in Korea
- A number of Korean teams played through the qualifier
- CLG.na and fnatic were the two non-Korean teams invited

Fatal1ty Gaming Gear Tournament
Standings: 1) TSM 2) JYAJ 3) Crs 4) Mm

SK Gaming Trophy March
Standings: 1) Na’Vi.LoL 2) fnatic 3-4) [M] Esc

Absolute Pro League
Standings: 1) CLG.eu 2) aAa 3) AL 4) WW

4PL All or Nothing
Standings: 1) CLG.eu 2) AL 3-4) TSM MYM

IPL Killing Spree: Week 8
Result: Mono [2:0 ] 4Not

IPL Killing Spree: Week 9
Result: Mono [2:0 ] Just Your Average Joes

IPL Killing Spree: Week 10
Result: Choppa [2:0 ] Mono

IPL Killing Spree: Week 11
Result: Choppa [2:0 ] V8

IPL SXSW Show Match
Result: West [0:2] East


Team Roster Changes
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- Team SoloMid: The Rain Man leaves the official TSM roster. Dyrus (Top) will replace TRM.
- EpiK Gaming: Dan Dinh leaves EpiK after internal disputes. MashMe (AD) and ClarkeyD (Jungle) fill in
- 4Not Gaming: Dan Dinh (Jungle) joins 4Not to solidify their lineup, with Kramer121 (Mid), DrTrevor (Top), BloodWater (Support), and paroL (AD)
- Mm: Real life friends NOthing12eal (AD) and Wild Turtle (Top) leave Mm after scheduling issues. Mm may be filling in the roles with Just Your Average Joe members, zig (AD) and ZionSpartan (Top)
- LgN: Former Reflex Gaming (RFLX) has been picked up and sponsored by Legion Gaming (LgN)

- Sypher: Both shLaYa and Skyyart leaves team Sypher and joins Eclypsia.
No news on who will replace them on Sypher or who else is on Eclypsia
- WW: SoloGamer leaves Western Wolves and Skullomania fills in

- Infernal Gaming: Wh1t3zZ leaves
- Fruitdealer coaches StarTale.LoL
- YellOw coaches Xenic Storms
- Korean pro team MVP starts trial phase for their new LoL team
- Rumors of e-mFire looking for a B team


News
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- IPL4 @ Las Vegas, USA begins on April 6th
Seeding is:
#1 [image loading] - Scarra, I Will Dominate, imaqtpie, L0cust, Voyboy
#2 [image loading] - Westrice, Salce, Nhat Nguyen, DontMashMe, ClakeyD
#3 [image loading] - HotshotGG, Bigfatlp, Saintvicious, Chauster, Doublelift
#4 [image loading] - Reginald, TheOddOne, Xpecial, Chaox, Dyrus
#5 [image loading] - TakashiX, Aphromoo, Muffinqt, TreeEskimo, UnstoppableX
#6 [image loading] - MoMa, Linak, YellOwStaR, nRated, sOAZ
#7 [image loading] - Nyjacky, Crumbzz, Cop, Elementz, Pobelter
#8[image loading] - Pixel3, Paradoxical, NintendudeX, ZionSpartan, Zig
Thanks to JBright for the IPL4 seedings and icons


Apr. 2012
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Tournaments and Placements
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RaidCall LoL Cup
Standings: 1) CLG.eu 2) FnaticRC 3) MYM

Games Assembly
Standings: 1) Sypher 2) AL 3) CLG.eu

IPL4
Standings: 1) TSM 2) CLG.na 3) Dig


Team Roster Changes
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- EpiK Gaming: Aphromoo (AD) and UnstoppableX (Jungle) replace MashMe (AD) and ClarkeyD (Jungle)
- Orbit Gaming: new team assembles oRb Yoda (Jungle), oRb LiNk (AP), oRb Vech (Top), oRb LemonNation (Support), oRb Hoodstomp (AD)
- AL.na: new team assembles Jpak (Support), nothinghere (Top), Onionbagel (Jungle), Kenikth (AP), aZu (AD)
- 4Not: TakashiX (AP), OneBadBrad (Jungle), Zekent (Top) replaces Dan Dinh, DrTrevor, and Kramer121
- Team Dynamic: former Monomanics eSports sponsored by Team Dynamic after an explosive IPL4 performance

- Eclypsia: Skyyart (Top), ShLaYa (AP), ImSoFresh (Jungle), havoc24 (Support), Freddy122 (AD)
- AL.eu: YoungBuck (Top) replaces Angush
- Sypher: Imsofresh leaves the team
- iG: MikakoTabe leaves the team


News
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- Jatt, former Dignitas Jungler who I Will Dominate replaced, joined Riot Games as a Associate Game Analyst


May 2012
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Tournaments and Placements
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Garena Premier League
Standings: 1) TPA 2) Singapore Sentinels 3) Saigon Jokers


Team Roster Changes
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- Millenium: new team assembles pHeoz (Top), Arcagød (AP), shacol0l (AD), Dax (Support), Naijik (Jungle)
- TSM.Evo: former team EpiK joins TSM as a secondary team Wingsofdeathx (Top), Salce (AP), UnstoppableX (Jungle), Aphromoo (AD), Nhat Nguyen (Support)
- CLG.Black: new team assembles Sycho Sid (Top), LiNk (AP), Zuna (Jungle), Hoodstomp (AD), BloodWater (Support)
- CLG.na: Voyboy (Top) replaces saintvicious, HotShotGG takes the Jungle role
- Dignitas: Crumbzz (Top) replaces Voyboy
- Crs.na: saintvicious (Jungle) replaces Crumbzz
- Orbit Gaming: team reassembles after major roster changes LemonNation (Support), Nientonsoh (AD) Hai L9 (Jungle), Yazuki (Top), NubbyPoohBear (AP)

Na’Vi: Kottenx (Jungle) replaces Araneae
FnaticRC: Pheilox (Support) replaces Mellisan

StarTale: Locodoco (AD) joins the team


News
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- League of Legends Season 2 Championships @ Los Angeles, CA on Oct. 13th 2012
- eStars Holdings, a major Korean company, sponsors Xenic Storms


June 2012
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Tournaments and Placements
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MLG Anaheim
Standings: 1) TSM 2) CLG.na 3) Dig 4) TD

DreamHack Summer 2012
Standings: 1) CLG.eu 2) M5 3-4) Fnatic, Crs.eu

GIGABYTE eSports LAN (GESL)
Standings: 1) TSM 2) CLG.Black 3) CLG.na 3) TD

- Leaguepedia NA Invitiational
Standings: 1) oRb 2) TD 3) TSM.evo 4) Ordinance Gaming


Team Roster Changes
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- Monomaniac eSports: new team assembles xHazzard (Top), DontMashMe (AD), Patoy (Support), Lexvink (Jungle), Vileroze (AP)

- FnaticRC: sOAZ (Top) replaces Shushei
- Crs.eu: Angush (Top) replaces YoungBuck
- SK: CandyPanda (AD) and Dedrayon (Jungle) released
- Millenium: Yell0wStar (AD) and nRated (Support) replaces Entenzwerg and Dax

- NaJin Sword: new team assembles MakNooN (Top), watch (Jungle), Fantastic Song (AP), Troll King (AD), Nurinim (Support)
- NaJin Shield: new team assembles Expression (Top), Mokuza (Jungle), Hoon (AP), Hiro (AD), vinylcat (support)


News
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- Azubu becomes the primary sponsor of Maximum impact Gaming (MiG), new teams are Azubu Frost and Azubu Blaze
- Counter Logic Gaming (CLG) gets official management help from eSports Management Group (eMG)
- Broodwars Protoss Legend (P)Nal_rA will join OGN as a commentator this summer


July 2012
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Tournaments and Placements
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Elite of Europe
Standings: 1) Crs.eu 2) mouz 3) M5 4) TSM

ECC Poland
Standings: 1) M5 2) CLG.eu 3) SK 4) Crs.eu

The Champions Summer
Group A: Azubu Blaze and World Elite advance
Group B: Azubu Frost and Najin Sword advance
Group C: StarTale and Xenics Storm advance
Group D: CLG.eu and CLG.na advance


Team Roster Changes
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- mTw.na: aphromoo (AD) replaces Atlanta
- TD: Atlanta (Jungle) replaces NintendudeX
- TSM.evo: DontMashMe (AD) replaces aphromoo
- Dig: Patoy (Support) replaces L0CUST

- mouz: new team assembles MoMa (AP), Prothana (Top), Dedrayon (Jungle), CandyPanda (AD), Dax (Support)
- SK: Yellowstar (AD) and Araneae (Jungle) replaces YoungBuck and Svenskeren

- Noah’s Ark (NA): new team assembles Wh1t3zZ (AP), Santa (Top), Bdmonster (Jungle), BSYY (AD), MikakoTabe (Support


News
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Aug. 2012
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Tournaments and Placements
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ECC: Poland
Standings: 1) M5 2) CLG.eu 3) SK 4) Crs.eu

MLG Summer Arena
Standings: 1) Azubu Blaze 2) TSM 3) Crs.na 4) BLACK


Team Roster Changes
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News
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 20 2011 09:40 GMT
#2
We’ll start off with this month. The major player transaction for December so far is Elementz moving from CLG to Crs, taking the role of Support. This roster swap also means that SYDTKO, who has been with Crs since inception (even back when they were UnRestricted), will now be benched.

Someone do me the favor of listing all the major tournaments for this month so we can start working on them?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Yttrasil
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden651 Posts
December 20 2011 12:33 GMT
#3
I know this might be a bit too much to ask for but it might be something to consider, as you can now customize the left part with what topics you want wouldn't it be possible to also do the same on the right side with streams to make it include LOL or even only LOL. I feel as I use TL as the main source for LOL these days and it would be amazing to be able to use it well for that purpose and hopefully have streamers put themselves there as well as the site is great. This would be especially the case when there are tournaments, I have basically no clue when, what etc they will happen and having it on the right side with the streams would be so nice.
Meh
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
December 20 2011 13:23 GMT
#4
On December 20 2011 18:40 NeoIllusions wrote:
We’ll start off with this month. The major player transaction for December so far is Elementz moving from CLG to Crs, taking the role of Support. This roster swap also means that SYDTKO, who has been with Crs since inception (even back when they were UnRestricted), will now be benched.

Someone do me the favor of listing all the major tournaments for this month so we can start working on them?

I feel that it's a great upgrade fpr Crs. Elementz showing of how much he did for CLG, having them not be nearly the force to be reconned with like they used to. I've always felt that SYDTKO is a subpar player he has shown time and time again that he doesn't understand the game. (Grave wasn't op at release lol). I can understand their reasoning for bencging Elementz but they really need to step up their game.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5
WCG 2011

CLG "Tournamentception"

ESL Premier League
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
December 20 2011 14:12 GMT
#6
Elementz really proved his worth for crs already, he seems solid and crs seems to have a pretty good chemestry and combination of players. Crs moving up hopefully.
KCCO!
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 20 2011 17:33 GMT
#7
On December 20 2011 22:23 Hynda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 18:40 NeoIllusions wrote:
We’ll start off with this month. The major player transaction for December so far is Elementz moving from CLG to Crs, taking the role of Support. This roster swap also means that SYDTKO, who has been with Crs since inception (even back when they were UnRestricted), will now be benched.

Someone do me the favor of listing all the major tournaments for this month so we can start working on them?

I feel that it's a great upgrade fpr Crs. Elementz showing of how much he did for CLG, having them not be nearly the force to be reconned with like they used to. I've always felt that SYDTKO is a subpar player he has shown time and time again that he doesn't understand the game. (Grave wasn't op at release lol). I can understand their reasoning for bencging Elementz but they really need to step up their game.


Uh. What?

They didn't qualify for Kiev, sure, but the only other tournament they've been in they won the entire thing. Beating TSM and Crs to do it. Elementz is a solid support he's just got a bad lane phase because he's so passive in lane as a support. CLG's biggest problem was losing their bot lane and now that they have Doublelift who can CS well and a support player who plays aggressive (both Chauster and HSGG play aggressive support) I think their bot lane is going to be a major threat.

The thing that Elementz has that Chauster/HSGG don't is proper warding. The only other support type thing they need is to get timers down but Ele didn't even do that when he was on CLG. Like, warding and timers is probably the easiest part of playing support it just takes grinding out a ton of games until you get it down. I think CLG's bot lane is waaaay stronger without Elementz they're just missing out on some warding that'll come in time.
ClonedBefore
Profile Joined October 2011
United States289 Posts
December 20 2011 17:34 GMT
#8
On December 20 2011 22:23 Hynda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 18:40 NeoIllusions wrote:
We’ll start off with this month. The major player transaction for December so far is Elementz moving from CLG to Crs, taking the role of Support. This roster swap also means that SYDTKO, who has been with Crs since inception (even back when they were UnRestricted), will now be benched.

Someone do me the favor of listing all the major tournaments for this month so we can start working on them?

I feel that it's a great upgrade fpr Crs. Elementz showing of how much he did for CLG, having them not be nearly the force to be reconned with like they used to. I've always felt that SYDTKO is a subpar player he has shown time and time again that he doesn't understand the game. (Grave wasn't op at release lol). I can understand their reasoning for bencging Elementz but they really need to step up their game.


Then why did Doublelift say SYDTKO was the strongest member of crs and was confused as to why they were benching him. He understands the game really well, albeit he was far off on his opinion of graves, that is the only time I have ever seen him be wrong, and saying he has shown time and again is dishonest and just fishing for reasons to justify this.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 18:18:46
December 20 2011 18:17 GMT
#9
HSGG just announced that AL EU (wickd and snoopeh's team) is now CLG eu.

http://clgaming.net/board/board25-announcements/board26-community-news/4878-absolutelegends-is-merging-with-counter-logic-gaming/
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 20 2011 18:23 GMT
#10
On December 21 2011 02:34 ClonedBefore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 22:23 Hynda wrote:
On December 20 2011 18:40 NeoIllusions wrote:
We’ll start off with this month. The major player transaction for December so far is Elementz moving from CLG to Crs, taking the role of Support. This roster swap also means that SYDTKO, who has been with Crs since inception (even back when they were UnRestricted), will now be benched.

Someone do me the favor of listing all the major tournaments for this month so we can start working on them?

I feel that it's a great upgrade fpr Crs. Elementz showing of how much he did for CLG, having them not be nearly the force to be reconned with like they used to. I've always felt that SYDTKO is a subpar player he has shown time and time again that he doesn't understand the game. (Grave wasn't op at release lol). I can understand their reasoning for bencging Elementz but they really need to step up their game.


Then why did Doublelift say SYDTKO was the strongest member of crs and was confused as to why they were benching him. He understands the game really well, albeit he was far off on his opinion of graves, that is the only time I have ever seen him be wrong, and saying he has shown time and again is dishonest and just fishing for reasons to justify this.

SYDTKO isnt up to snuff in terms of competitive play. He cant play a single role anywhere near competitive level, and his theory craft has always been a bit suspect.

Double isnt all that smart if that is what he actually thinks. NY and Po are much stronger than SYDTKO.

Not to mention the fact that Double is freaking terrible at anything that isnt straight up micro in game. His decision making and in game positioning (ie where he is on the map at certain times) is TERRIBLE.
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GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
December 20 2011 19:03 GMT
#11
I decided to write this because i just saw the new formed CLG eu team, which is formed out of some players from AL, SK and something else (dont know where yellowpete played at).
This was only one of around 10 move arounds in the last 2 months. It all started with Wickd leaving SK (before that, teams where kinda consistend, except SK). Now the crazyness starts.
AL is formed (Wickd, Moma, Froggen, Failer, Soaz, Lyumi).
Moma joins AL.
Moma leaves AL, joins SK.
Soaz leaves AL, Kbap joins.
mTw partnership with AL announced.
partnership stops for unknown reasons.
Kbap leaves AL.
CLG eu is formed, AL disbands Lyumi and failer, Froggen and Wickd join CLG, Snoopeh leaves SK joins CLG.
This all happened within one and a half month by two teams! Pretty crazy in my opinion...
I dont know it just seems so unprofessional. If you look to the SC 2 scene (and its the only eSports scene i can compare this with), the only ones who do stuff like this are Naniwa and maybe Major, but not THAT often.
But what made me really angry were the comments on the official LoL forums.
It was stuff like,

Just for the money

SK so fucked omg

omg wickd biggest asshole

...

and so on.
I mean, thats just really really bm.
I know its not professional by them, but why would say such things

I really really hope that this changes, because i love League of Legends alot and i play it alot

I apologize for my bad writing
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
December 20 2011 19:29 GMT
#12
I guess it's because there's no money in these pro teams contracts that the teams switch around so much? Does seem weird that mTw partnership died so quickly though (only explanation I can think of is for money).

I wanted to see Kbab own up IEM.
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
December 20 2011 19:56 GMT
#13
On December 21 2011 04:29 Goshawk. wrote:
I guess it's because there's no money in these pro teams contracts that the teams switch around so much? Does seem weird that mTw partnership died so quickly though (only explanation I can think of is for money).

I wanted to see Kbab own up IEM.

aBhorsen said, AL wanted too much.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
December 20 2011 20:18 GMT
#14
Hard to keep up with all the changes SK or Wickd is doing on EU side, but at least fnatic are like super stable and their scrims are a joy to tune in to. Such a chilled atmosphere they play in, maybe that's why they're sticking together, everyone seems to have fun.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
December 20 2011 20:31 GMT
#15
So, Riot says that Dyrus can't go to Kiev. I don't know what's changed between Season 1 and Season 2 to make it only now illegal to sub members, but something about the situation stinks to me. Hopefully there will be a resolution, because the last thing the scene needs for its legitimacy is a team not being able to go to an event because they can't get a good sub.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
December 20 2011 20:41 GMT
#16
That really sucks, what's the reason mandatorycloud can't go?
hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
December 20 2011 21:00 GMT
#17
I think NA competitive LoL has been capped for a while. Teams aren't deviating to anything different, players are choosing heroes they can't play, and most importantly, teams are still make simple mistakes due to a lack of extended practice with each other. They all play solo queue and the games end up being like solo queue.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
December 20 2011 21:16 GMT
#18
On December 21 2011 05:41 daemir wrote:
That really sucks, what's the reason mandatorycloud can't go?


His family isn't letting him go because they feel like he won't be safe for some reason. I think Riot is making a huge mistake not allowing subs from teams not present, so I hope they come to their senses.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
December 20 2011 21:20 GMT
#19
I think the main reason a lot of LoL players are tending to jump around unlike SC2 players is this is a team game. In SC2 no matter how much IdrA may or may not hate Huk he never actually has to play WITH him in a tournament. They live together, maybe practice together from time to time, but there are no personality clashes once they get to a tournament. That's not true for LoL and when egos clash there a player really doesnt have a ton of options.
They can suck it up and hope that whoever is leading the team makes good decisions, they can leave the team and try to find one that they fit in better with, or they can quit the competitive scene. I don't think many people that play this genre of game are nearly humble enough to realize that they are wrong and as a result many players choose to leave.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 21:38:15
December 20 2011 21:35 GMT
#20
Hotshot is being really smart about running CLG. He's pretty much on course to be set for the rest of his life if he plays his cards right with CLG.

On December 21 2011 06:20 Phrost wrote:
I think the main reason a lot of LoL players are tending to jump around unlike SC2 players is this is a team game. In SC2 no matter how much IdrA may or may not hate Huk he never actually has to play WITH him in a tournament. They live together, maybe practice together from time to time, but there are no personality clashes once they get to a tournament. That's not true for LoL and when egos clash there a player really doesnt have a ton of options.
They can suck it up and hope that whoever is leading the team makes good decisions, they can leave the team and try to find one that they fit in better with, or they can quit the competitive scene. I don't think many people that play this genre of game are nearly humble enough to realize that they are wrong and as a result many players choose to leave.


Yeah, the StarCraft comparisons to the pro-LoL scene have never worked because the games are completely different. Iirc the whole reason wickd left SK was because he didn't like CandyPanda. Most of the players who have quit teams do so because they dislike one or more of the people on the team.

On December 21 2011 06:16 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 05:41 daemir wrote:
That really sucks, what's the reason mandatorycloud can't go?


His family isn't letting him go because they feel like he won't be safe for some reason. I think Riot is making a huge mistake not allowing subs from teams not present, so I hope they come to their senses.


From a financial standpoint it's also really risky for Goose to go to Kiev.

I'm guessing that Riot has enacted that rule to get new blood into the scene. It's the only reason I could think of for making such a rule. Although, that rule could potentially be partial fall out from the Jatt and CLG/Lapaka situation.
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