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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 20 2011 21:51 GMT
#21
On December 21 2011 06:35 overt wrote:
From a financial standpoint it's also really risky for Goose to go to Kiev.

I'm guessing that Riot has enacted that rule to get new blood into the scene. It's the only reason I could think of for making such a rule. Although, that rule could potentially be partial fall out from the Jatt and CLG/Lapaka situation.

I think it's the latter. Reading Riot's rules, it's in the reddit thread, it makes sense. I guess Riot doesn't want people already on other teams subbing in for existing teams. Too much potential problems to deal with. It makes sense to me.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 21 2011 00:54 GMT
#22
I definitely support Riot's decision on substitute players. Pro team rosters should be locked in unless they officially exit the team. Substitutes should not be players with existing ties to an established teams.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 21 2011 00:55 GMT
#23
Also, I can keep track of the NA scene since I play on NA and I talk to various people frequently.

I need someone or a team to keep me updated on the EU scene. I'll review the content but I'd like to just incorporate your work into the OP in the end.
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Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
December 21 2011 01:49 GMT
#24
On December 21 2011 09:54 NeoIllusions wrote:
I definitely support Riot's decision on substitute players. Pro team rosters should be locked in unless they officially exit the team. Substitutes should not be players with existing ties to an established teams.

This is how I feel about it. The way to do it is the classical "Registered for play". Basicly what needs to be done is this.

You get a certain ammount of slots, this needs to be decided by riot. lets say 8 for the sake of argument (there should be more).

These eight slots can be filled by any player. I've made a chart to explain how I feel
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Clarification of chart.

Your first task is to set up a rooster of players, in this example 8. When your 8 players have all been cleared (not being members of other teams ect ect). A Team Leader will be selected he has two important jobs.

1: He is the only one that gets to talk to Riot staff or tourney staff when it comes to major concerns or decisions. IE you don't get your leader to ask someone where the bathroom is, but if you want to contest the rules you have to go via the leader. This means there can't be mixed messeges sent between tourney staff and teams, have both leaders get the same statement and that's it. This means that if there is ANY confusion or dispute there are only 2people that need to be present.

2: Your Team Leader will choose the other 4 or the entire 5 depending on if he is a player or not (or he might set himself as a sub). of the Original Line up, the Original Line up is the ideal team that you want to have out on the field and hence 5 players you know you will be using alot during the tournaments. These 5 people becomes locked to this team for the entire season.

Reasoning: You are going to pick those 5 players for a reason, they are the best team you can muster. By locking them in for a season it means those 5 needs to muster professional work ethics. IE even if they have pety fights with each other they know that they are stuck for at least one season and will therefor be more prone to stick together.

After this the the rest of the rooster becomes Transfer Lock. That means untill the next transfer window (more common than a season) they are locked to your team. This means that if they are not used, your subs can be traded out for other subs in the transfer windows. HOWEVER if your subs are frequently used in matches they will be locked for the season,

Reasoning: Subs is a joke right now, people are being drawn in left right and center. This way you will have your subs outlined from the start. It also means more competion for the subs, a carrot to get better. Once you are locked for the season your team is going to want to use you as much as possible, simply because locking in all your subs could put you at a dissadvantage.

Obviously there are things that will need tweaking such as Rooster size, Season length and transfer length. This was just an example to fit the graph.

This I feel will promote a professional way of making sure that people take things seriously. This is their job, if they want to fuck about do it on their stream. In our tourneys we keep our ship tight and we run smooth sailings all around.



NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 31 2011 09:55 GMT
#25
CLG Last Call Tournament (Dec 30th, 2011)
Final Placement (Dig, EG, CLG, MiGiCE)
Notes: Dinh brothers away on family trip. TSM absent from tournament. GoSu Zuna subbed CLG Doublelift for part of the tournament. v8 Aphromoo subbed for EG Dan Dinh. Dig I Will Dominate's first tournament with Dig as their new Jungler.
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
January 01 2012 23:24 GMT
#26
Dignitas picks up I Will Dominate from col

http://www.team-dignitas.net/articles/news/League-of-Legends/711/I-Will-Dominate-transfers-to-Team-Dignitas/

^^

(i hope i'm doing this right)
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 02 2012 03:10 GMT
#27
Goose is unable to go to Kiev due to MandatoryCloud and Lemongod not being able to go. In addition, looks like Lemon is dropping off the Goose roster entirely, at least for the time being. Atlanta stated the reason for both as "their parents are being assholes" and also stated Goose's intention to refund the money donated for Kiev, but he says due to complications this might take a while.

source: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/nyu89/goose_not_going_to_kiev_due_to_complications_in/
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 04 2012 08:19 GMT
#28
Updated for Dec 2011.
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kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
January 04 2012 08:53 GMT
#29
On December 21 2011 09:54 NeoIllusions wrote:
I definitely support Riot's decision on substitute players. Pro team rosters should be locked in unless they officially exit the team. Substitutes should not be players with existing ties to an established teams.


I don't really agree. I think teams should be allowed one or two subs regardless because there are so many circumstances in life and also, I feel like having a sub is a disadvantage to the team; I mean no matter how good the player is, if they're not used to playing with the team then the chemistry and communication should hurt more than the skill of the sub. Though there has to be a limit because you obviously don't want people subbing all the time, just under special circumstances where the whole team is still going, but maybe one core person is missing.

If the same rule existed for wcg, we'd have missed out on a lot of players and I understand that's a different circumstance because it's a country vs country thing, but I'm really glad I got to see a lot of the pro players playing there and in the end, it worked out. I had dignitas as favorites just because they had their entire team, but they didn't play as well as usual. Then CDE kind of put on a LoL clinic.
Hi
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 01:39:22
January 05 2012 20:16 GMT
#30
IPL: Killing Spree (Jan. 12th 2012, 5 pm PST)
Goose vs CLG, Best of 3.

IEM Kiev, Site 4 (Jan. 19th 2012)

Unnamed Korean Invite Tourney (Jan. 21st 2012 [?])
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 09 2012 01:52 GMT
#31
IEM Kiev updates
- Curse will replace Goose, their lineup atm will be Liquid112, Cop, SYDTKO, Nyjacky and a 5th (they need a jungler still)
- CLG.eu (former mTw AL) won't be able to attend IEM Kiev due to disputes with the mTw organization. Wickd and co won their berth under mTw, who "owns" the seed. mTw isn't willing to relinquish their seeding and mTw does not have a team to send. As a result, the next team in line who qualified is SK.
- Final attendance for Kiev should be: aAa, Dignitas, TSM, SK, Curse, White Lotus, Moscow5, iG
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novalight
Profile Joined December 2011
United States20 Posts
January 11 2012 04:28 GMT
#32
does grandjudge still play/have a team?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 11 2012 05:13 GMT
#33
On January 11 2012 13:28 novalight wrote:
does grandjudge still play/have a team?


grandjudge belongs to Team OverPower. He's not as active in LoL lately.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 22:17:13
January 11 2012 22:07 GMT
#34
OGN LoL Invitational [Week 1] @ Seoul, Korea (Jan. 20 2012)
Invites: EDG, MiG iCE, OP, ST, WE, CLG

IPL South by Southwest [SXSW] @ Austin, Texas (Mar. 9th - 18th, 2012)

IEM World Championship @ Hannover, Germany (Mar. 3rd - 11th, 2012)
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 12 2012 20:41 GMT
#35
IEM Kiev, Site 4 @ Kiev, Ukraine (Jan. 19th 2012)
Group A: SK, White Lotus, TSM, Crs
Group B: Sypher, Dig, aAa, M5
iG has visa problems, thus replaced by Sypher. More info from ESL

However, in the same day, Sypher's roster is flipped upside down. The 5 Frenchmen joined a new organization who offered a better deal.
New team is called TteSport Dragon:
‘lounet’ AD
‘Moopz’ AP
‘Pyri’ Support
‘ShLaYa’ Jungle
‘Skyyart’ Top
Somehow, Sypher is trying to build another team in time for Kiev.
Credit to ggChronicle
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ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 02:15:35
January 13 2012 00:43 GMT
#36
-- Sypher is going with the original team!
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 01:54:15
January 18 2012 01:53 GMT
#37
On January 13 2012 05:41 NeoIllusions wrote:
IEM Kiev, Site 4 @ Kiev, Ukraine (Jan. 19th 2012)
Group A: SK, White Lotus, TSM, Crs
Group B: Sypher, Dig, aAa, M5
iG has visa problems, thus replaced by Sypher. More info from ESL

However, in the same day, Sypher's roster is flipped upside down. The 5 Frenchmen joined a new organization who offered a better deal.
New team is called TteSport Dragon:
‘lounet’ AD
‘Moopz’ AP
‘Pyri’ Support
‘ShLaYa’ Jungle
‘Skyyart’ Top
Somehow, Sypher is trying to build another team in time for Kiev.
Credit to ggChronicle


The Sypher team is now back on Sypher for good while Tt Dragons took on a new team.

Lineup Tt Dragons LoL Pro Series 2012
Sebastian "ORCAAA" Steinmetz
Ken Lorenz "inDane" Dreger
Jonas "DeBentz" Bentz
Sebastian "NoTrigger" Barth
Martin "Zyrx" Thander
Robin "Gladiot" Haans

Credit to:State of the League
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 15:04:36
January 20 2012 15:04 GMT
#38
IEM Day 2: M5 wins the quickest game in IEM so far @ 22 minutes vs Sypher.
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trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
January 21 2012 15:17 GMT
#39
IEM day 3 : M5 change completly the meta of LOL, with NEW champs underused (morderkaiser,shyvana,AD kennen,nunu, etc), new strategies and incredible teamplay

1-0 currently against SK
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
January 21 2012 16:18 GMT
#40
Day 3 of IEM Kiev, M5's Genja explains the secret of their success: "You see hero, you kill hero."
My modesty is awesome.
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