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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected")

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 20.1.2012
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 22 2012 16:03 GMT
#4161
On January 23 2012 01:00 TheKefka wrote:
Its kinda funny to say morde is n1 but when you think how he managed to pull ahead on cs against cass mid even tho he died 3 times its pretty huge.

Um all that means is that regi missed creeps, nothing else.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
fantasticoranges
Profile Joined July 2011
1327 Posts
January 22 2012 16:03 GMT
#4162
On January 23 2012 01:02 RogerX wrote:
By the way, TRM didn't ward tribush did he?...


Wouldn't matter at all, everytime shyv left lane it was pretty obvious she was going into their jungle.

Irelia just couldn't do anything about that.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 22 2012 16:03 GMT
#4163
On January 23 2012 01:02 RogerX wrote:
By the way, TRM didn't ward tribush did he?...


Wouldn't really served any purpose, shyvana moved into their jungle mainly in plain view after pushing lane to tower >_>
LobsterCrazy
Profile Joined January 2012
United States4 Posts
January 22 2012 16:03 GMT
#4164
The reason games snowball harder is because teams are more experienced. Openings in chess, serves in tennis, any game that involves deep mastery will tend towards a very important early game because master players will leverage any advantage they get.

By nature LoL allows snowball because you have champions that get stronger throughout the game. In CS the dude you're fighting doesn't get stronger just because he killed your teammate.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 22 2012 16:03 GMT
#4165
On January 23 2012 01:03 fantasticoranges wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:02 RogerX wrote:
By the way, TRM didn't ward tribush did he?...


Wouldn't matter at all, everytime shyv left lane it was pretty obvious she was going into their jungle.

Irelia just couldn't do anything about that.


Yeah, lvl 1 irelia is already weaker than Shyv.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 22 2012 16:04 GMT
#4166
On January 23 2012 01:02 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:02 -Kato- wrote:
WTF TSM moving to EU physically or just moving server?


Servers. They get better ping anyway. EU ping > California ping in NY.

I don't think so, I get about 100 to California but 150 to EUW.
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:04:36
January 22 2012 16:04 GMT
#4167
Phreak: Introducee yourselves.
Regi: I'm Reginald, AP Carry for TSM and Captain.
Alex Ich: I'm Alex Ich, AP Carry for TSM and Captain.

Phreak: Walk us through the Picks and Bans in the Bo3.
Regi: We say their games yesterday so we banned based on that and what we didn't want to deal with.
Phreak: So Alex, were your bans based against Regi?
Alex Ich: We don't like playing against Rammus. We don't like Karthus. You can't counterjungle against LeBlanc because she just kills you. We banned Cassi over Karthus because she does more damage.

Phreak: M5 pulled ahead really fast in Game 1. What was the cause?
Regi: It was the same reason. LoL is becoming a game where you get one buff and then the game snowballs. The same happened Game 2. We got the two kills and that was it. In Game 1, he got Blue fast, pushed me to my tower and then went around making plays.
Phreak: Regi says once you stole the first blue you controlled the game. What do you think?
Alex Ich: When I survived with 30hp with Galio that was it. Cassi can't beat Galio with a lot of resist and regen. Once I got Blue, we dominated. Cassi can't outpush without Blue. I could push and move to other lanes to gank or help Lee SIn counterjungle.

Phreak: Before the game, Regi you said you had a secret champion. Can you tell us what it is?
Regi: I didn't feel comfortable playing it so I stuck with what I played before. Won't tell you what I have secret, sorry.

Phreak: So, Alex, what do you play then? You only played Galio, Ryze and Morde.
Alex Ich: I think Morde is #1 hero in the game. Ryze is #2.
Phreak: So, you used Shyvanana solotop instead of jungle this time. Why the swap?
Alex Ich: Darian likes Shyvanana solotop. Everyone think we can only use her jungle. But solo top you rampage around champion and jungle. In 3rd game we think to use Mordekaiser Skarner Shyvanana combo.

Phreak: What do you guys plan to improve and get better for Hannover in 2 months?
Regi: Practise co-ordination and execution with my team. There were key points where we wanted to go to Blue, get Blue but we didn't do it because we were on different pages. We plan on moving to EU, practising in EU, playing in Go4Lols and practising.
Phreak:
Regi:
Alex Ich: We will practise 5-6+ hours a day. Practise more unorthodox combos and new ideas. We also sort out our international passport issue so we can travel to tournaments.

Phreak: Well, thanks for watching.
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
January 22 2012 16:04 GMT
#4168
I give it up to M5 though.

The way they all play together so well and have such hard map control without all the gimmicky play. It's pretty crazy.

Makes LoL look like SC:BW after ~7 years of being established and being well understood.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
January 22 2012 16:04 GMT
#4169
Why didn't Phreak ask about that Irelia pick. I wanted to know who was behind that decision etc. Doubt regibro would have said a lot but eh.
End my suffering
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
January 22 2012 16:05 GMT
#4170
So sad to see TSM lose it like that :/ But after how Irelia got stomped in the first game they should have known not to pick her. Maybe Teemo wasn't the best pick, but it was better than Irelia, and his shrooms would've helped them be more aware of the counter jungling, especially on purple side when it's so easy to put down the shroom in the tri-bush :/
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 22 2012 16:05 GMT
#4171
On January 23 2012 01:04 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:
Why didn't Phreak ask about that Irelia pick. I wanted to know who was behind that decision etc. Doubt regibro would have said a lot but eh.


Would have been my first question right after "Please introduce yourselves".

zzz, dat phreak......
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Emnel
Profile Joined October 2011
Greece384 Posts
January 22 2012 16:05 GMT
#4172
And now im thinking about all those HoN and DotA games where people keep afk farmign their jungle al 60minutes+ game long. Higher skill my ass
Nasus feeds as he pleases.
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:06:32
January 22 2012 16:05 GMT
#4173
On January 23 2012 00:53 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 00:52 wintergt wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:49 Kaniol wrote:
Try strategy A in game 1 - lose the game
Try strategy B in game 2 - win the game
Game 3 - strategy A or B? GO WITH A!


TSM - Team of Strategy Masters.

Cassiopeia was banned g3 otherwise regi would have definately picked her again vs Morde.


Except Morde was picked after cass in g2 (huge M5 screw up), and Karthus was picked before Morde in game 3 because M5 would have taken him most likely.

In g2 they gave double blood at lvl 1.. can't say too much after that as M5 couldn't play their normal game anymore at all. And the Karthus pick seemed almost baited, they first flashed Karthus, then last second switched to Sona (Sona is one the MVP champions in this tourney btw, but that aside). According to M5 mid his tier list for AP mid is 1. Morde 2. Ryze 3. Gallio so they were never gonna pick Karthus. Cassio just did too much dmg they found so they preferred to play vs Karthus in last game.
here i am
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
January 22 2012 16:06 GMT
#4174
Woah. dat Miku cosplay
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22008 Posts
January 22 2012 16:06 GMT
#4175
@Daniel
Find someone from TSM and ask the question of questions. Why Irelia in the 3e game! :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 22 2012 16:06 GMT
#4176
so many games snowballed out of control before 15 mins passed, riot should look at that.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 22 2012 16:06 GMT
#4177
wheee, go Dignitas! Third place not too bad ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 22 2012 16:06 GMT
#4178
On January 23 2012 01:05 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:
So sad to see TSM lose it like that :/ But after how Irelia got stomped in the first game they should have known not to pick her. Maybe Teemo wasn't the best pick, but it was better than Irelia, and his shrooms would've helped them be more aware of the counter jungling, especially on purple side when it's so easy to put down the shroom in the tri-bush :/


They could just shroom their own jungle.

But I still think that Singed top would have done great too. Shyv can't push lane against singed.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 22 2012 16:06 GMT
#4179
On January 23 2012 01:03 fantasticoranges wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:02 RogerX wrote:
By the way, TRM didn't ward tribush did he?...


Wouldn't matter at all, everytime shyv left lane it was pretty obvious she was going into their jungle.

Irelia just couldn't do anything about that.

Yep, if you leave lane you miss like the 20 friggin creeps at your tower and all shyv has to do is back off and they've still won. You can't outpush shyv with irelia, and the only thing irelia was gonna do in that lane was possibly stay even in cs as far as lane goes.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 22 2012 16:06 GMT
#4180
Big grats to Dignitas, well done with the amount of prac they had time to get.
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