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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected")

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 20.1.2012
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
January 22 2012 17:59 GMT
#4261
On January 23 2012 01:37 sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:34 raf3776 wrote:
Worst part is its free shyvanna week T.T


thats the best part. Do you know how many people are going to try and use shyv and fail off their ass's.


except when those people are in your team :X
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22411 Posts
January 22 2012 18:00 GMT
#4262
On January 23 2012 02:58 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 02:55 Gorsameth wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:24 teamsolid wrote:
Holy crap, there were 230K people watching the LoL stream? Just how many people exactly play this game?


Every day, over 1.4 million players log on to play League of Legends
There are over 15 million registered accounts
Between NA and EU servers, peak concurrency has reached 500,000 players
Players spend an aggregate total of 3.7 million hours in-game every day
The official League of Legends site gets 6 million hits a day
League of Legends YouTube videos have nearly 100 million views
Over 1,690,000 viewers tuned into the online broadcast of the League of Legends Season One Championship, with concurrent viewership peaking at over 210,000

Numbers from July last year.



Those are the old numbers

Here are the new ones


Thanks was actualy looking for that picture but failed my google skill check and didnt find it ini 5 seconds :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
January 22 2012 18:04 GMT
#4263
Hey guys, just now had the chance to grab a PC here. What an exhausting but amazing event. Let's not all hate on TRM--there's a lot more to it than a single player's performance.

As I'm watching Kas take down one of Zenio's expansions over my shoulders I've also just finished patching up LoL. If anyone from this thread fancies a quick round with me, I wouldn't say no (I can play on any server, but I'm not sure my NA account has runes and stuff)
My modesty is awesome.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 22 2012 18:13 GMT
#4264
Try LiquidParty chat. I'm sure some people there would recognize you and want to play.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 22 2012 18:14 GMT
#4265
On January 23 2012 02:48 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 02:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 23 2012 02:35 emucxg wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:54 nojitosunrise wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:33 teamsolid wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:26 Shikyo wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:25 nojitosunrise wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:24 teamsolid wrote:
Holy crap, there were 230K people watching the LoL stream? Just how many people exactly play this game?



millions

10mil+ as far as I know

What about the peak # of users on a day-to-day basis actually in the game. Just wondering about how successful Riot is in actually promoting LoL as an e-sport. E.g. If there's normally 500K active users, 230K watching the tournament would be quite impressive


1.3 million concurrent (only EU + NA)

dont know about now, but Chinese server had 800k (peak) concurrent during the beta

and in fact, China ladder have split to about 10 servers , and they are adding more, LOL... so EUW EUNe shit is not even a big deal, EU ppl should not cry...

these servers been called Demacia, Tiamat, Ionia etcs...

Chinese internet OP


Pretty damn cool to be naming the server you log into by LoL lore.
Almost has a WoW feel to it, lawlz.

I hear people in SC2 get placed into Omega Baneling Ultralisk Theta or something.


Sounds a lot more fun and shit than US West, US East, Europe. zzz
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AWakefield
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada420 Posts
January 22 2012 18:16 GMT
#4266
Are they going to reair it? It started at 5am this morning for me and I was asleep.
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 18:21:46
January 22 2012 18:19 GMT
#4267
On January 23 2012 03:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Try LiquidParty chat. I'm sure some people there would recognize you and want to play.


Cool, I'll do that. Loading into a dominion game with Rioters now, will play a round with you guys after. Awesome.

EDIT: Yes, the IEM Kiev day 4 will be re-broadcasted, and VODs will be up on youtube (search for intel extreme masters) soon!
My modesty is awesome.
topoulo
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 18:29:33
January 22 2012 18:29 GMT
#4268
They ve lost from a team with an ad kennen as main ad carry ...


Talking bout overhyping for all current teams really .

/facepalm
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 22 2012 18:35 GMT
#4269
You could conclude from that that they all suck or perhaps that AD Kennen is a real possibility?
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
January 22 2012 18:40 GMT
#4270
AD Kennen isnt terrible.

Decent damage from W every 5 hits and an AD carry with a stun that can be AoE is pretty neat.

kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
January 22 2012 18:44 GMT
#4271
On January 23 2012 03:29 topoulo wrote:
They ve lost from a team with an ad kennen as main ad carry ...


Talking bout overhyping for all current teams really .

/facepalm


Try it before knocking it. Kennen is actually really hard to stop during laning phase so he farms well then has the ability to stun while fighting + aoe ult + escape. Also, his W proc scales off of ad. I tried it twice, absolutely crushed soraka graves with nunu support and beat sivir alistar with sona support. I probably would've outfarmed them with any ad carry, but I got kills and outfarmed them and was safe. He's viable. The real losing point was just losing top and getting counter jungled so hard, either of those things don't happen together in games 1 and 3, tsm probably wins.

New ways of playing are how the metagame shifts and changes. I'm 100% sure in higher elo games, lots more counter jungling will happen and more ad kennen players will appear.
Hi
topoulo
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 18:46:17
January 22 2012 18:44 GMT
#4272
On January 23 2012 03:35 Promises wrote:
You could conclude from that that they all suck or perhaps that AD Kennen is a real possibility?


They key word is that they run ad kennen as main ad carry ...

It has no merit to do that apart from trolling there x10 better champions for that job aka the real ad carries for starters. , spare me the bs they were trolling

He had 1 kill i think then 0 -0 or osmehting ismilar thus a pretty much useless champ.

they won 4vs5 vs the "best" eastern team .

Yea i do think that anyone whos called "pro" in lol is a joke compare to a sc2 pro for instance.

It just needed an relative unknown team to pawn them all semi afk with troll builds in the final

User was warned for this post
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 22 2012 18:49 GMT
#4273
On January 23 2012 03:44 topoulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 03:35 Promises wrote:
You could conclude from that that they all suck or perhaps that AD Kennen is a real possibility?


They key word is that they run ad kennen as main ad carry ...

It has no merit to do that apart from trolling there x10 better champions for that job aka the real ad carries for starters. , spare me the bs they were trolling

He had 1 kill i think then 0 -0 or osmehting ismilar thus a pretty much useless champ.

they won 4vs5 vs the "best" eastern team .

Yea i do think that anyone whos called "pro" in lol is a joke compare to a sc2 pro for instance.

It just needed an relative unknown team to pawn them all semi afk with troll builds in the final


2/10 for effort.

Try and work on your language next time. And LoL pro's are pro's. They make money, and they can live off the revenue their job creates. That makes them pro. And M5 wasn't unknown. Empire was around for quite some time. And TSM didn't get owned, they lost 2-1 with some fairly close stuff happening.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 22 2012 18:51 GMT
#4274
On January 23 2012 03:44 topoulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 03:35 Promises wrote:
You could conclude from that that they all suck or perhaps that AD Kennen is a real possibility?


They key word is that they run ad kennen as main ad carry ...

It has no merit to do that apart from trolling there x10 better champions for that job aka the real ad carries for starters. , spare me the bs they were trolling

He had 1 kill i think then 0 -0 or osmehting ismilar thus a pretty much useless champ.

they won 4vs5 vs the "best" eastern team .

Yea i do think that anyone whos called "pro" in lol is a joke compare to a sc2 pro for instance.

It just needed an relative unknown team to pawn them all semi afk with troll builds in the final

Trolling = winning/going even in lane.

Ok.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 22 2012 18:52 GMT
#4275
If you aren't going to put some more thoughts in your ramblings (or admit you're flat out trolling, but I don't believe that), you might as well restrain from posting.

Nunu support is as legit as can be, but despite that most people would have called it trolling not so long ago. AD carries are picked that don't have any ability scaling with AD (cf. Tristana, or Ashe short of volley), does that mean that Kennen, with his scaling W, ability to peel for himself, escape and AoE stun can't be one? He farms safely, can hold his own against certain 1v2 lanes, and allows the control that is the base of M5's playstyle.

You could as well call them trolls because they dare to use Mordekaiser in a tournament.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
January 22 2012 19:00 GMT
#4276
Fun fact: a friend of mine was playing Kennen always AD since he came out for a lng time. Ony after they buffed his AP-ratios he tryed a little bit of AP.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
January 22 2012 19:16 GMT
#4277
Kennen's range/attack speed are respectable, and early on in lane his manaless nature was allowing him to harrass Chaox/Xspecial with impunity, while Sivir was OOM farming at tower and getting poked.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 22 2012 19:17 GMT
#4278
On January 23 2012 01:37 sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:34 raf3776 wrote:
Worst part is its free shyvanna week T.T


thats the best part. Do you know how many people are going to try and use shyv and fail off their ass's.


Shyvana is really fucking easy to play. There might be people failing at her on free week but it's not like jungle Shyv is very tough. It's akin to the ease of jungle Warwick except Shyvana is way better than WW.

Did M5's jungle play anything other than Shyvana this tournament? Kind of funny that no one banned Shyv even though that's what was crucial to their counter-jungling strategy.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
January 22 2012 19:25 GMT
#4279
On January 23 2012 04:17 overt wrote:
Did M5's jungle play anything other than Shyvana this tournament? Kind of funny that no one banned Shyv even though that's what was crucial to their counter-jungling strategy.


He played a 5/1/14 Lee Sin vs aAa (who had banned Shyvana), and in the finals against TSM, he played Lee Sin in the first game and Skarner in the third (with Shyvana on their top-laner, who admittedly counterjungled like a boss after pushing TRM's Irelia to her turret).
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Deman
Profile Joined November 2008
United Kingdom42 Posts
January 22 2012 19:34 GMT
#4280
Damn there was a lot to get through in this thread! Good to read all the feedback though.

Thanks for all the quotes itäs always funny to read back what you said as most of it just comes out while filling dead air, thankfully though these games were pretty entertaining throughout and opened a lot of peoples eyes to a new meta style which in Ocelotes words "everyone will be playing like this for the next month".

Hope to be in CeBIT for the finals.
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