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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On October 01 2011 00:27 unkkz wrote: I have a i5 2500k Radeon HD 5770 and 8gib ram, 20/5 connection and i cannot stream in 1280 x 720 withe verything on low in SC2 using Xsplit, my framerate in SC2 drops to like 30 in non fights. Shouldnt i be able to stream in this quality? Have a bitrate of 2000 and a buffer thingy for 2000. My native res is 1680 x 1050 You should be able to. - What's your FPS and "Quality" in Xsplit? (Suggest trying 25 and 8) - try 1152 x 720 to match your 16:10 aspect ratio. 1280x720 is 16 : 9 and it might take extra resources to resize. | ||
unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
On October 01 2011 00:51 Wabbit wrote: You should be able to. - What's your FPS and "Quality" in Xsplit? (Suggest trying 25 and 8) - try 1152 x 720 to match your 16:10 aspect ratio. 1280x720 is 16 : 9 and it might take extra resources to resize. Funny thing, i had the JustinTV stream open in the background, and when i turned that off my framerate skyrocketed, so for some reason having it on in the background completely murdered my FPS. The resolution match is good though will give that a go for better performance thx! | ||
SpoR
United States1542 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20229 Posts
On October 01 2011 11:29 unkkz wrote: Funny thing, i had the JustinTV stream open in the background, and when i turned that off my framerate skyrocketed, so for some reason having it on in the background completely murdered my FPS. The resolution match is good though will give that a go for better performance thx! I read something on here earlier about radeon cards underclocking themselves while flash player was running or something a massive amount, and being stuck with it, only solution to just not run flash and a game at the same time | ||
wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
posted this just a few seconds ago and got my answers through finding this thread. | ||
Ellcrys
United States25 Posts
There is no ingame lag, or lag on my end, only on the streaming end it seems. My specs are: AMD Athlon II X2 250 3.0ghz(i guess there are two processors?) in device manager it shows i have 2. 4 gb of DDR3 ATI Radeon HD 5700 i have 100/5 internet speed, but im going through a router so speed test only shows like 35/5 which i think should be fine. This computer was given to me from my brother who moved away, so im not really familiar with it, first time i even used windows 7 tbh. I figured the processor is what would have been causing me so much problem, because it was only a dual core, but if there are 2 of them then it should be fine right? I have no idea how to see what cores are being used/maxed and what not. Because the lag is only on the streaming side, maybe it is just the settings i have in Xsplit? The settings i have are: Preset: Faster Quality: 9 Bitrate/Buffer: 3000 Resolution 1280x720 (16 ![]() Im very new at streaming, any help would be greatly appreciated, ive read a lot of things that could be the issue, im just not sure which is my issue, hopefully someone will have a good idea. twitch.tv/ellcrizzle is my stream, i think i left an hour video of me playing right before i got off. It doesnt look terrible, just laggy at intense moments. Thanks again :DD | ||
Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
On December 19 2011 17:45 Ellcrys wrote: So i just started streaming tonight, after getting a new computer, new internet and a new modem to support the higher speeds. After messing with the Xsplit setting for a few hours i finally just played some games and then rewatched the video after i was done. Its not too bad, but when a battle happens it gets pretty laggy, im not really sure how to see the FPS with Xsplit or i would post that here. There is no ingame lag, or lag on my end, only on the streaming end it seems. My specs are: AMD Athlon II X2 250 3.0ghz(i guess there are two processors?) in device manager it shows i have 2. 4 gb of DDR3 ATI Radeon HD 5700 i have 100/5 internet speed, but im going through a router so speed test only shows like 35/5 which i think should be fine. This computer was given to me from my brother who moved away, so im not really familiar with it, first time i even used windows 7 tbh. I figured the processor is what would have been causing me so much problem, because it was only a dual core, but if there are 2 of them then it should be fine right? I have no idea how to see what cores are being used/maxed and what not. Because the lag is only on the streaming side, maybe it is just the settings i have in Xsplit? The settings i have are: Preset: Faster Quality: 9 Bitrate/Buffer: 3000 Resolution 1280x720 (16 ![]() Im very new at streaming, any help would be greatly appreciated, ive read a lot of things that could be the issue, im just not sure which is my issue, hopefully someone will have a good idea. twitch.tv/ellcrizzle is my stream, i think i left an hour video of me playing right before i got off. It doesnt look terrible, just laggy at intense moments. Thanks again :DD lower your bitrate to about 2.3k kbps and you will be fine. EDIT: actually, if its lagging in battles, thats because of your cpu. Try getting at least a quad core athlon or do like me and get a cheap Phenom II x3. I have excellent quality on my stream and I dont even have a quad core. | ||
Ellcrys
United States25 Posts
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HellGreen
Denmark1146 Posts
On December 20 2011 00:51 Ellcrys wrote: Ok thank you aero. I will give that a shot. ![]() Stream lag can occur in big battles if your throughput isn't good enough. You need to monitor your CPU using Task Manager and you need to use the bandwidth test in channel settings. This will be able to tell where the lag stems from. I do agree with AeroEffect that you should lower your bitrate to 2300-2500 kbps. Also set 'Preset' back to default until you figure out the above results. 'Faster' does not mean things go faster - on the contrary it's harder for the CPU ![]() Also, check my signature for a thread containing a lot more help on XSplit. | ||
Ellcrys
United States25 Posts
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HellGreen
Denmark1146 Posts
On December 20 2011 01:56 Ellcrys wrote: Ok thanks HellGreen, when i have my bitrate and buffer set to 3000 and run the bandwith test it always hits between 2700-3100. When running a replay it seems my cpu% in task manager will bump up to 68+% with Xsplit taking like 40+% of it. Anyways, i will try moving my bitrate and preset and see if that helps, if not then i will go buy a better processor :D They're really not that expensive for a decent quad core. Take note that the bandwidth test is not a 'how-fast-can-I-go-test' - it will test the speed you set and tell you if that speed is obtainable. If you get occasional dips into the 2700s kbps when trying for 3000 kbps, you get lag. Since 720p runs perfect on ~2400 kbps (actually it will use from <1000 to ~2500) there's little or no gain in having it at 3000 kbps on a 30 fps stream ![]() | ||
Micromnky
United States262 Posts
Im using Xsplit, with the most basic of settings. Thanks :D | ||
bobsire
Canada296 Posts
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PAD
United Kingdom15 Posts
My computer is good, i5 2500k 3.3, 8gig ram, geforce gtx570 and my internet is like 5meg download with about 1meg upload this is my stream with the best settings i been able to do for streaming. http://www.twitch.tv/leetpad/b/303172084 my problem is when i move around i get that brickly effect and i dunno how to fix it, i guess i cant untill i get faster upload but i just wanted to know if thats the case or something wrong with my settings. My res is set to 1280x720 fps 25 because i found lowering it didnt help, my quality is set to 10, again lowing it didnt help and my VBV is set to 600, i upded it to as much as 900 in different tests and it still has not fixed my issue . I have spent alot of time trying different settings etc and i still cant seem to get rid of the brick effect, its fine on local recording so that makes me think i cant fix it unless i get faster upload on my internet. Views? thanks PAD | ||
~Maverick~
United States234 Posts
My specs: AMD Phenom X4 965 @3.2Ghz (Quad Core) Radeon HD5830 3.25Gb DDR2 Ram (Im on a 32-Bit system) 20Mb Down / 5 Mb up Xsplit Settings are: Preset: Xsplit Default Quality: 5 Bitrate/ Buffer: 1350 Audio: 22.05Khz 16 bit stereo @ 48000Bitrate Resolution: 960x600 Framerate: 20 Basically I want to be able to stream at the best possible quality with my game being 100% smooth and have no impact on my performance. I've tried playing around with settings for a while now, but I just cannot get it to be the way I want, so can anyone give me any pointers? | ||
Boblhead
United States2577 Posts
On December 22 2011 07:49 ~Maverick~ wrote: I've tried streaming, but I notice a significant drop in FPS and I get some stuttering when attempting to stream. My specs: AMD Phenom X4 965 @3.2Ghz (Quad Core) Radeon HD5830 3.25Gb DDR2 Ram (Im on a 32-Bit system) 20Mb Down / 5 Mb up Xsplit Settings are: Preset: Xsplit Default Quality: 5 Bitrate/ Buffer: 1350 Audio: 22.05Khz 16 bit stereo @ 48000Bitrate Resolution: 960x600 Framerate: 20 Basically I want to be able to stream at the best possible quality with my game being 100% smooth and have no impact on my performance. I've tried playing around with settings for a while now, but I just cannot get it to be the way I want, so can anyone give me any pointers? You won't be able to stream without any performance impact on the game. The only way to do this is with the 2 computer method using capture cards/audio splitters. Put all the CPU heavy aspects of sc2 to off, turn your graphics to low/med. Whats your native resolution? are you streaming windowed mode or windowed fullscreen? Lets say If your playing on a 1920*1080 resolution your computer is having to compress that whole thing to a 960*600 thats a lot of strain by itself. If I can say the resolution your streaming in is 16:10 whats the aspect ratio of your monitor? this could potentially be more things your computer has to do. Try these things and come back. | ||
~Maverick~
United States234 Posts
On December 22 2011 09:02 Boblhead wrote: You won't be able to stream without any performance impact on the game. The only way to do this is with the 2 computer method using capture cards/audio splitters. Put all the CPU heavy aspects of sc2 to off, turn your graphics to low/med. Whats your native resolution? are you streaming windowed mode or windowed fullscreen? Lets say If your playing on a 1920*1080 resolution your computer is having to compress that whole thing to a 960*600 thats a lot of strain by itself. If I can say the resolution your streaming in is 16:10 whats the aspect ratio of your monitor? this could potentially be more things your computer has to do. Try these things and come back. I do understand that I won't be able to have no performance impact at all, but I would like to make it as smooth as possible. My native resolution is 1680x1050, which is a 16:10 aspect ratio. My game is in Windowed (Fullscreen) mode, and on all lowest settings. | ||
Boblhead
United States2577 Posts
On December 22 2011 09:31 ~Maverick~ wrote: I do understand that I won't be able to have no performance impact at all, but I would like to make it as smooth as possible. My native resolution is 1680x1050, which is a 16:10 aspect ratio. My game is in Windowed (Fullscreen) mode, and on all lowest settings. There are several things you can try. one of them is setting the affinity to sc2 to use 2 cores, and xsplit to use two cores. Both benefit from more than 1 core. Another thing you can try is There are several presets that may cater better for your computer. The lowest 5 presets should give better performance. Try these 2 things to see if you notice better performance while playing. | ||
~Maverick~
United States234 Posts
On December 22 2011 10:05 Boblhead wrote: There are several things you can try. one of them is setting the affinity to sc2 to use 2 cores, and xsplit to use two cores. Both benefit from more than 1 core. Another thing you can try is There are several presets that may cater better for your computer. The lowest 5 presets should give better performance. Try these 2 things to see if you notice better performance while playing. With the affinity change I think its good enough that I can deal with it. However, I'm still surprised that my machine is performing so poorly, I would think that I could get more out of it, oh well. | ||
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