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Dakk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden572 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:13:50
May 08 2011 19:11 GMT
#21
I should be able to maintain a 1080p stream right?
[image loading]
I have a 5850, 8gb ram, i7 2600k, 1920x1080 monitor, h50 cooling, CM HAF 932 case.

My stream is lagging and ingame is stuttering. Anyone know why?
I will not fear, Fear is the mindkiller. Fear is the little death.
Riot Janook
Profile Joined August 2010
United States108 Posts
May 08 2011 23:28 GMT
#22
Great post, i hope this gets stickyd.
Lots of great info here that helped me decide I shouldn't stream.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3714 Posts
May 08 2011 23:58 GMT
#23
I'm sorry but I have to nitpick your points on the bitrate, those numbers are way higher than necessary from what I've tested. I was able to run a 1024x576 resolution stream before I got better internet at just 500 kbps. Also after that I've run a 1280x720 stream at alternating 1000 and 1500 kbps settings with no major quality losses. The main issue is when you're running a stream that is 2500+ bitrate it limits the number of viewers who actually cannot view that stream.

Especially since most people on JTV don't have partner status and this means they cannot scale down the quality on the stream when the bitrate is too high. I"d suggest for the vast majority of streamers to run their bitrate as low as possible so their viewers can actually watch. Most streams that run 3k or higher are just plain unwatchable even on my internet which is stupidly fast.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2052 Posts
May 09 2011 00:08 GMT
#24
I know XSplit still requires the game to be some kind of windowed mode to stream but does FMLE? Or alternatively is there anyway to stream fullscreened?
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States9882 Posts
May 09 2011 00:12 GMT
#25
On May 09 2011 08:58 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
I'm sorry but I have to nitpick your points on the bitrate, those numbers are way higher than necessary from what I've tested. I was able to run a 1024x576 resolution stream before I got better internet at just 500 kbps. Also after that I've run a 1280x720 stream at alternating 1000 and 1500 kbps settings with no major quality losses. The main issue is when you're running a stream that is 2500+ bitrate it limits the number of viewers who actually cannot view that stream.

Especially since most people on JTV don't have partner status and this means they cannot scale down the quality on the stream when the bitrate is too high. I"d suggest for the vast majority of streamers to run their bitrate as low as possible so their viewers can actually watch. Most streams that run 3k or higher are just plain unwatchable even on my internet which is stupidly fast.


I can second this, I can't watch NASL's absurd 3k bitrate yet i can watch any other stream or video on the internet.
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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2403 Posts
May 09 2011 00:14 GMT
#26
On May 09 2011 09:08 lynx.oblige wrote:
I know XSplit still requires the game to be some kind of windowed mode to stream but does FMLE? Or alternatively is there anyway to stream fullscreened?


I'm not sure about FMLE but with xsplit, just set Starcraft 2 to Windowed (fullscreen) and you are set. It doesn't effect playing on it at all.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3714 Posts
May 09 2011 00:41 GMT
#27
On May 09 2011 09:08 lynx.oblige wrote:
I know XSplit still requires the game to be some kind of windowed mode to stream but does FMLE? Or alternatively is there anyway to stream fullscreened?


no it is not required for FMLE but most games do not stream very well in full screen mode so you usually need to use windowed mode anyways.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 03:41:39
May 09 2011 03:38 GMT
#28
Anyone know whether dxtory output should be set to AVI or RawCap if you're outputting to DirectShow for xsplit? Also, if you're outputting 25 fps with xsplit, should dxtory be set to capture 25 fps, or does it matter?
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 05:40:33
May 09 2011 05:37 GMT
#29
Well I ask because I still get a blank screen when trying to stream League of Legends using FMLE. Can someone PM me the method of streaming fullscreen? (LoL has issues in windowed mode like not being able to mouse scroll downwards in windowed and others) I wish it had windowed fullscreen like SC2 (fortunately SC2 works great)
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Zero RDS
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada104 Posts
May 09 2011 05:47 GMT
#30
hi, i know this is not on topic but i didnt know where else to post it, how do i switch over to justin.tv ? i'm currently on livestream but i want to switch over for the quality.
"Do A Barrel Roll"
Zero RDS
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada104 Posts
May 09 2011 07:06 GMT
#31
ok nvm, i got a new stream but i need help trying to stream SC2 now it wont show up with my stream
"Do A Barrel Roll"
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3714 Posts
May 09 2011 07:46 GMT
#32
On May 09 2011 14:37 lynx.oblige wrote:
Well I ask because I still get a blank screen when trying to stream League of Legends using FMLE. Can someone PM me the method of streaming fullscreen? (LoL has issues in windowed mode like not being able to mouse scroll downwards in windowed and others) I wish it had windowed fullscreen like SC2 (fortunately SC2 works great)


get a program called shiftwindow it fixes the windowed mode so that it appears like it's fullscreen
Zero RDS
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada104 Posts
May 09 2011 09:08 GMT
#33
thanks for the last post i think i need to get that program too.
"Do A Barrel Roll"
sooch
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada298 Posts
May 09 2011 17:52 GMT
#34
For some reason, when I try to output in 840x525 (2:1 for my monitor) the broadcast fails and all viewers see is the "please enable virtual camera" message from Xsplit. Any pre-set resolution (i.e. the ones listed under View>Resolutions) works, but when I try to add this 840x525 there are issues. Anyone know about this ?
-IntEnZ-
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden49 Posts
May 09 2011 18:02 GMT
#35
Great guide R1CH, props.
Legend`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada373 Posts
May 09 2011 18:03 GMT
#36
Wonderful guide. Played around with settings myself before reading this and it didn't turn out that well, going to play around with it some more. Thanks!
NME.352 GM NA Protoss
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4091 Posts
May 10 2011 00:08 GMT
#37
I've been using VP6 over H264 because it does much better with fast scenes from my testing. Is there a noticeable problem with VP6 that would make people choose H264 over it? I've noticed that the TSL stream uses H264 as well.
Ner0
Profile Joined July 2008
United States129 Posts
May 10 2011 00:12 GMT
#38
On May 10 2011 09:08 Kinky wrote:
I've been using VP6 over H264 because it does much better with fast scenes from my testing. Is there a noticeable problem with VP6 that would make people choose H264 over it? I've noticed that the TSL stream uses H264 as well.

VP6 is an older codec that is available to users of Adobe Flash Media Encoder. It requires a higher bitrate (more upload) for the same quality, but has some benefits in that it recovers from scene changes faster than FME's H264.

That is what I would imagine.

Thanks to the guide I'll be boosting my bitrate to 1200 and changing some quality settings. Hopefully now some FPS games will stream better.
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1199 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 14:05:08
May 10 2011 14:03 GMT
#39
I use VP6 because from testing, it is like 100% better for motion use.
Here are my settings:

Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Stream Resolution: 640x360
Video Bitrate: 300

[image loading]
That's why ^^.

Here is a video of my stream quality: http://www.justin.tv/kolvacs/b/285523078


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On May 09 2011 04:11 Dakk wrote:
I should be able to maintain a 1080p stream right?
[image loading]
I have a 5850, 8gb ram, i7 2600k, 1920x1080 monitor, h50 cooling, CM HAF 932 case.

My stream is lagging and ingame is stuttering. Anyone know why?


You most likely don't have the bitrate/frame rate settings properly set-up.
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece811 Posts
May 10 2011 17:46 GMT
#40
On May 09 2011 04:11 Dakk wrote:
I should be able to maintain a 1080p stream right?
[image loading]
I have a 5850, 8gb ram, i7 2600k, 1920x1080 monitor, h50 cooling, CM HAF 932 case.

My stream is lagging and ingame is stuttering. Anyone know why?




try dxtory, look on the support forums here to see what it is.

i had the same prob with you. like many many others here.
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