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On December 20 2011 20:09 Goibon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:07 hansel01 wrote:
Just to like to throw it out there that the last map where Gumiho went siege is bullshit, i hate that map so much. Being able to hit the expo from the low ground is retarded. They need to make the cliff bigger so it is not possible. You see it happen in almost every TvZ. I've hated this forever too. It's just frustrating knowing that that natural is going to get sieged up, and the entire point of the game becomes the ability of the non-T to defend it. It's zzzzz. I want it out of the map pool already. I'm sick of it.
You know, even in TvT this is frustrating. ;x
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On December 20 2011 20:09 ElephantBaby wrote:
Tassadar got balls, nexus first.
Well everyone should try something new once in their lives.
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On December 20 2011 20:03 Tantaburs wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:02 Hassybaby wrote:On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote:
was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg? It was Huk, but he used fake VRs I like the cut of your jib. (on an unrelated topic WTF is a jib?)
Not sure its answered yet but its a type of sail (on a boat) different styles have different shapes/positioning etc that give the boat a different look. Hence the saying.
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On December 20 2011 20:08 Drazerk wrote:Game Seven on Calm Before the StormIn the top left is  Ryung While in the bottom left is  Tassadar
4:40
Starport on the way for Ryung
Warp tech and a gate for Tassadar
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On December 20 2011 20:08 aTnClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:07 Coolhwip wrote:On December 20 2011 20:04 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 20:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:On December 20 2011 19:54 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 19:52 NipponBanzai wrote:On December 20 2011 19:50 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 19:49 LeopoldStotch wrote:On December 20 2011 19:46 aTnClouD wrote:
So protoss all ins and the better player is unable to react and randomly loses cause it's impossible to scout in SC2. So good.
edit: morrow still has some zvts to play anyway, there's still hope. From what I saw, the worst player in that game lost. Get glasses. I've played Tassadar in Korea he's nowhere near the level of Morrow. He's just pulling out stupid builds with poor execution in these matches. Who is the one who lost to a stupid build with poor execution? lol Ok I'll rephrase it. Tassadar is the worst player between the two, he pulled out stupid builds in both matches he played today and he won against Morrow with a poorly executed all in that totally relied on Morrow not being prepared, hence didn't require any deep preparation or response to what his opponent was doing. In short I'm saying Tassadar is playing like a scrub. You need to calm the hell down. Morrow played worse and lost, that's it. If he lost cause he played worse then I wouldn't be so upset about the result of the match. Still fun how people fail to realize how protoss game design is a complete failure. I'm not gonna talk about this anymore since there's too many clueless players who don't understand we're watching poker and not starcraft. You know that it's the same thing for protoss agianst terran early game. Complete guessing game. I really dont know what point you're trying to make. is it that protoss is OP or just that theres too much guessing going on in teh game in general? My point is every matchup with a protoss in it has too many gamble aspects in it, sometimes from both sides. They just totally failed to design protoss and that's why we see terrible protoss players winning against better ones and insanely good protoss players losing to scrubs.
That's kind-of true with the PvP part  The 4-gate thing with warp-gate mechanic seems to to still allow lesser players to beat superior players!
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On December 20 2011 20:09 ElephantBaby wrote:
Tassadar got balls, nexus first.
Pretty standard on Calm before the Storm if you ask me.
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Jjakji's smashing of Oz (I think it was those two...) in GSL november started like this too...
Banshee + drop helions
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On December 20 2011 20:09 ElephantBaby wrote:
Tassadar got balls, nexus first.
not really, huge map
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On December 20 2011 20:04 aTnClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:On December 20 2011 19:54 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 19:52 NipponBanzai wrote:On December 20 2011 19:50 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 19:49 LeopoldStotch wrote:On December 20 2011 19:46 aTnClouD wrote:
So protoss all ins and the better player is unable to react and randomly loses cause it's impossible to scout in SC2. So good.
edit: morrow still has some zvts to play anyway, there's still hope. From what I saw, the worst player in that game lost. Get glasses. I've played Tassadar in Korea he's nowhere near the level of Morrow. He's just pulling out stupid builds with poor execution in these matches. Who is the one who lost to a stupid build with poor execution? lol Ok I'll rephrase it. Tassadar is the worst player between the two, he pulled out stupid builds in both matches he played today and he won against Morrow with a poorly executed all in that totally relied on Morrow not being prepared, hence didn't require any deep preparation or response to what his opponent was doing. In short I'm saying Tassadar is playing like a scrub. You need to calm the hell down. Morrow played worse and lost, that's it. If he lost cause he played worse then I wouldn't be so upset about the result of the match. Still fun how people fail to realize how protoss game design is a complete failure. I'm not gonna talk about this anymore since there's too many clueless players who don't understand we're watching poker and not starcraft.
You're actually absolutely right about Protoss being terribly designed. However, TL doesn't like this kind of discussion and it won't lead anywhere so meh. Let's just watch some good games 
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On December 20 2011 20:08 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:07 TT1 wrote:On December 20 2011 20:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:On December 20 2011 19:54 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 19:52 NipponBanzai wrote:On December 20 2011 19:50 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 19:49 LeopoldStotch wrote:On December 20 2011 19:46 aTnClouD wrote:
So protoss all ins and the better player is unable to react and randomly loses cause it's impossible to scout in SC2. So good.
edit: morrow still has some zvts to play anyway, there's still hope. From what I saw, the worst player in that game lost. Get glasses. I've played Tassadar in Korea he's nowhere near the level of Morrow. He's just pulling out stupid builds with poor execution in these matches. Who is the one who lost to a stupid build with poor execution? lol Ok I'll rephrase it. Tassadar is the worst player between the two, he pulled out stupid builds in both matches he played today and he won against Morrow with a poorly executed all in that totally relied on Morrow not being prepared, hence didn't require any deep preparation or response to what his opponent was doing. In short I'm saying Tassadar is playing like a scrub. You need to calm the hell down. Morrow played worse and lost, that's it. na morrow didnt play worse he just got caught off guard by a luck based build, cloud just comes off extremely agressive but he means well : D No Hydras was luck or a bad decision?
bad decision. Yes, toss can go colossi after, but who is forcing you to continue making hydras?! And you can do a strong push before colossi numbers get out of control. Instead what happened was a bunch of immortals punching his roaches to oblivion...
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Ryung 0W 2L
Morrow 1W 1L
Bomber 2W 0L
Killer 0W 2L
Tassadar 1W 1L
Gumiho 2W 0L
so far.. correct me if i'm wrong
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I hope Ryung will win this, so Morrow has one less opponent to worry about 
For once I'll root for Ryung ! I don't think he can win vs protoss because it involves micro, but why not, a miracle is possible.
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On December 20 2011 20:09 ElephantBaby wrote:
Tassadar got balls, nexus first.
Omg what an all-in cheese. Tassadar is such a scrub /sarcasm
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On December 20 2011 20:10 BlingRush wrote:
Ryung 0W 2L
Morrow 1W 1L
Bomber 2W 0L
Killer 0W 2L
Tassadar 1W 1L
Gumiho 2W 0L
so far.. correct me if i'm wrong
you're right
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On December 20 2011 19:59 Dariusz wrote:
That's why protoss players needs to learn using phenixes instead of stalkers. Stalkers suck terribly vs tanks and marauders that there is no point making them PvT after you have colossi.
This comment is beyond dumb, quite possibly the most foolish thing I've heard all day. First of all you cant make phx and collosi off of 2 base because of the gas. Second of all Both Phx and Collosi are countered by the same unit (the viking). Theres no way you can pump out enuff phx to match a Ts viking count off of a reactored port. Especially on 2 base where you need the gas for collosi, Stalkers, Sentires, etc.... Finally Phx are terribad against marines Vikings.
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On December 20 2011 20:10 Drazerk wrote:
4:40Starport on the way for Ryung Warp tech and a gate for Tassadar
5:40
Tassadar is taking the gas at his natural
Drop on the way for Ryung
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On December 20 2011 20:08 aTnClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:07 Coolhwip wrote:On December 20 2011 20:04 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 20:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:On December 20 2011 19:54 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 19:52 NipponBanzai wrote:On December 20 2011 19:50 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 19:49 LeopoldStotch wrote:On December 20 2011 19:46 aTnClouD wrote:
So protoss all ins and the better player is unable to react and randomly loses cause it's impossible to scout in SC2. So good.
edit: morrow still has some zvts to play anyway, there's still hope. From what I saw, the worst player in that game lost. Get glasses. I've played Tassadar in Korea he's nowhere near the level of Morrow. He's just pulling out stupid builds with poor execution in these matches. Who is the one who lost to a stupid build with poor execution? lol Ok I'll rephrase it. Tassadar is the worst player between the two, he pulled out stupid builds in both matches he played today and he won against Morrow with a poorly executed all in that totally relied on Morrow not being prepared, hence didn't require any deep preparation or response to what his opponent was doing. In short I'm saying Tassadar is playing like a scrub. You need to calm the hell down. Morrow played worse and lost, that's it. If he lost cause he played worse then I wouldn't be so upset about the result of the match. Still fun how people fail to realize how protoss game design is a complete failure. I'm not gonna talk about this anymore since there's too many clueless players who don't understand we're watching poker and not starcraft. You know that it's the same thing for protoss agianst terran early game. Complete guessing game. I really dont know what point you're trying to make. is it that protoss is OP or just that theres too much guessing going on in teh game in general? My point is every matchup with a protoss in it has too many gamble aspects in it, sometimes from both sides. They just totally failed to design protoss and that's why we see terrible protoss players winning against better ones and insanely good protoss players losing to scrubs.
Says the terran. This is equivalent to Richard Simmons calling someone gay
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On December 20 2011 20:08 aTnClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:07 Coolhwip wrote:On December 20 2011 20:04 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 20:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:On December 20 2011 19:54 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 19:52 NipponBanzai wrote:On December 20 2011 19:50 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 19:49 LeopoldStotch wrote:On December 20 2011 19:46 aTnClouD wrote:
So protoss all ins and the better player is unable to react and randomly loses cause it's impossible to scout in SC2. So good.
edit: morrow still has some zvts to play anyway, there's still hope. From what I saw, the worst player in that game lost. Get glasses. I've played Tassadar in Korea he's nowhere near the level of Morrow. He's just pulling out stupid builds with poor execution in these matches. Who is the one who lost to a stupid build with poor execution? lol Ok I'll rephrase it. Tassadar is the worst player between the two, he pulled out stupid builds in both matches he played today and he won against Morrow with a poorly executed all in that totally relied on Morrow not being prepared, hence didn't require any deep preparation or response to what his opponent was doing. In short I'm saying Tassadar is playing like a scrub. You need to calm the hell down. Morrow played worse and lost, that's it. If he lost cause he played worse then I wouldn't be so upset about the result of the match. Still fun how people fail to realize how protoss game design is a complete failure. I'm not gonna talk about this anymore since there's too many clueless players who don't understand we're watching poker and not starcraft. You know that it's the same thing for protoss agianst terran early game. Complete guessing game. I really dont know what point you're trying to make. is it that protoss is OP or just that theres too much guessing going on in teh game in general? My point is every matchup with a protoss in it has too many gamble aspects in it, sometimes from both sides. They just totally failed to design protoss and that's why we see terrible protoss players winning against better ones and insanely good protoss players losing to scrubs.
This is the exact same thing Zergs (most famously Idra) were saying about Terran for a very very long time.
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On December 20 2011 20:05 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:03 Tantaburs wrote:On December 20 2011 20:02 Hassybaby wrote:On December 20 2011 20:02 Tantaburs wrote:
was it GuMiHo or GuineaPig that first used the VR Collo deathball vs zerg? It was Huk, but he used fake VRs I like the cut of your jib. (on an unrelated topic WTF is a jib?) Slang for teeth in prisons? There's a lot of meaning for it, but that's the one I think is associated with that phrase. Still makes no sense
Although im to lazy to search it up, im pretty sure its a nautical reference that is something to do with a sail. Which in reference means you are admiring someone elses work or something to that effect.
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