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ChrysaliS_
United States261 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:06 dcemuser wrote: Go look at the LR thread. Very few people cared and more people defended him by far than attacked him. It is an entirely different thing though - the pool play there basically meant nothing. And the Naniwa/Nestea Blizzcup was meaningful? | ||
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Govou
Canada1072 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:13 ChrysaliS_ wrote: And the Naniwa/Nestea Blizzcup was meaningful? Because it seemed meaningless to you and Naniwa few days ago, doesn't mean it's meaningless for everyone. Like Naniwa said in OP, progamer does not play for himself. | ||
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DjSpectre
United States62 Posts
It's sad to see him lose his Code S spot, but I suspected some kind of backlash would happen. Nani's statement seemed one of both personal growth and honest sentiment. Kudos! | ||
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Pipeline
Sweden1673 Posts
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
Progaming is not only about the gamer. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:12 mcc wrote: But why this has to be standard ? Not all fans care for the fun pretend games. Not all players are good at pretending. Why cannot there be a diversity, why not let players that want to play for fans do that and those that do not likewise ? Do we really want a bunch of dishonest actors, it seems that majority (although not overwhelming majority) wants fake, but nicely looking facade. This is exactly the place where market forces would work great. Players that do not attract fans and sponsors would just not have them, there is no reason to force everyone into the same box. Point of the professional scene is in money, so let the market decide. And yes I support tournaments to just not invite players that they do not like, but in transparent manner and with the knowledge that it might bite them in the ass. No game is a pretend game; that is the proper attitude. Especially not a game that is in booths, on a stage, in front of fans (some of them paying), and in front of real commentators, and with real sponsors. The point, though, is never money; money is means. I am especially disappointed that Naniwa would throw a game against Nestea, with whom he has developed a special rivalry with recently. If he can't get excited about showing that, even at 0-3, he is still playing better than Nestea, than it seems Naniwa's motivations are far too narrow, as he has indicated in his statement. So, I hope he takes that to heart. | ||
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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zanga
659 Posts
Thank you. Play well in the future!  FIGHTING! | ||
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TriZen
England219 Posts
It reminds me of those who don't turn up to consolation matches in MLG, but atleast he shown up..Hopefully GOM Tv can move on from it and realize, to him, it was nothing and that has now changed and won't happen again | ||
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y77pr
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
Lost alot of respect for the sc2 'scene'. The people trying to run Naniwa's life are even worse. How dare he be himself ? PLease. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
This isn't GOM's fault. I don't think anyone could imagine a scenario in the Blizzard Cup where two players would face each other with 0-3 records. | ||
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:27 Parcelleus wrote: SC2 just got worse cos of this pathetic display of player bashing cos he is himself. Lost alot of respect for the sc2 'scene'. The people trying to run Naniwa's life are even worse. How dare he be himself ? PLease. Nobody is trying to ruin Naninwa's life except himself. If he doesn't conform to some of the rules of the big world such as that you show respect to others you'll run into trouble sooner or later. That sooner or later is now for Naniwa. He can either learn from this or he can continue on his path and keep shooting his own leg. Looking at the apology he is taking this the right way. It is nice of course that we have good fairy godmothers such as yourself to nurture him and to tell him that he can act any way he wants and it's okay. Unfortunately the real world doesn't work like that and the sooner he changes his behaviour (this does not mean losing any of his so-called passion or even his way of thinking) at least in the public the better off he is. It is just mind-boggling that some people think you can act in any way you want. You can't. Sometimes you just have to do unpleasant things like play a quick game of SC2 in front of a crowd. It may not feel nice at the moment but if you don't and you step on people's toes then don't be surprised if there are consequences (no, I don't think GOM's decision was optimal). | ||
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ScythedBlade
308 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:41 Squeegy wrote: Nobody is trying to ruin Naninwa's life except himself. If he doesn't conform to some of the rules of the big world such as that you show respect to others you'll run into trouble sooner or later. That sooner or later is now for Naniwa. He can either learn from this or he can continue on his path and keep shooting his own leg. Looking at the apology he is taking this the right way. It is nice of course that we have good fairy godmothers such as yourself to nurture him and to tell him that he can act any way he wants and it's okay. Unfortunately the real world doesn't work like that and the sooner he changes his behaviour (this does not mean losing any of his so-called passion or even his way of thinking) at least in the public the better off he is. It is just mind-boggling that some people think you can act in any way you want. You can't. Sometimes you just have to do unpleasant things like play a quick game of SC2 in front of a crowd. It may not feel nice at the moment but if you don't and you step on people's toes then don't be surprised if there are consequences (no, I don't think GOM's decision was optimal). By the way, there are murderers who just murder because of the sudden difference in temperament. Sometimes, it's not very controllable, but its normal. I know this to be true, because I have a disorder too, but I'm perfectly fine most of the time. | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
On December 15 2011 10:41 Squeegy wrote: Nobody is trying to ruin Naninwa's life except himself. If he doesn't conform to some of the rules of the big world such as that you show respect to others you'll run into trouble sooner or later. That sooner or later is now for Naniwa. He can either learn from this or he can continue on his path and keep shooting his own leg. Looking at the apology he is taking this the right way. It is nice of course that we have good fairy godmothers such as yourself to nurture him and to tell him that he can act any way he wants and it's okay. Unfortunately the real world doesn't work like that and the sooner he changes his behaviour (this does not mean losing any of his so-called passion or even his way of thinking) at least in the public the better off he is. It is just mind-boggling that some people think you can act in any way you want. You can't. Sometimes you just have to do unpleasant things like play a quick game of SC2 in front of a crowd. It may not feel nice at the moment but if you don't and you step on people's toes then don't be surprised if there are consequences (no, I don't think GOM's decision was optimal). I said run not ruin. It's not upto YOU to make decision for other ppl. They do it themselves just fine. | ||
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BlacKcuD
Germany106 Posts
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
One of the things I find so interesting about NaNiwa's personality is that he rarely does anything explicitly BM. It always seems more of a case of him just not... knowing how to handle social situations. Which is bad enough, but then when you get thrust into a culture that is HIGHLY concerned with manners and social practices... it's a recipe for disaster. I often wonder if NaNiwa doesn't have asbergers or some sort of mild autism. I hate to speculate, but that's what it reminds me of. People I've met with such conditions are never really intentionally rude or anything, they just sort of don't GET how certain social situations are supposed to be handled, which usually results in others just wondering wtf they're thinking... Anyway, NaNiwa fighting! | ||
Skank
United States329 Posts
Naniwa fighting <3 | ||
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