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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
On May 01 2006 15:20 ZaplinG wrote: Its all really because his name is garbage. Is it Cho-JAH? Is it Cho-YAH? No one knows! Therefore, he remains in obscurity. I hope you die. Chojja's name is awesome. Means noobface. It's pronounced Cho - Jjah, like.. Cho Chya... but Jja.. feel me? And was Jja ever never top 5 zerg? No... | ||
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essare
Korea (South)251 Posts
On May 01 2006 15:20 ZaplinG wrote: Its all really because his name is garbage. Is it Cho-JAH? Is it Cho-YAH? No one knows! Therefore, he remains in obscurity. Cho JJah. I doubt many koreans even know that "J" is pronounced "H" in spanish. His name means beginner btw. One note on the shaking hands after games thing... A couple of years ago Chojja was one of the younger players in the league. If anybody should go and shake hands, it should be the younger player ( in asia anyway ). Now that there are players like Sea who was born in 1990, Chojja shouldn't be the one going over to shake. Maybe I'm just old fashioned  | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
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tfeign
United States2979 Posts
On May 01 2006 16:16 HungZerg wrote: new kespa only takes into account last 3 months. Where exactly did you read that kespa only takes into account the last 3 months? It has always taken performance/accomplishments over the recent 12-month period. The only change to the new one is that it also factors in Proleague performance. Almost none of the Kespa rankings for the month of April makes any sense if it only takes into account the past 3 months of performance. | ||
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tfeign
United States2979 Posts
I'll add it to the original post (didn't even remember about this before). Anyway, 3-0 Xellos, 2-0 Boxer, beating oov on his best map, plus others that I for sure am not remembering all of. That's at least 6-0 against top terrans in Starleague games. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On May 01 2006 15:52 tfeign wrote: If anyone thinks that ChoJJa has only been doing well for a couple of months, that cannot be any more false. ChoJJa has been doing very well for much longer period of time. He placed top 3 in MSL two seasons ago, and won the last one. He's the last zerg to win a Starleague. Within the past half a year ChoJJa is the most accomplished zerg. July is still ranked as the top zerg in Kespa mainly because of his EVER 2 OSL win that happened nearly a year ago. When that drops off within the next couple months, I wouldn't be surprised if July would fall down as the 3rd or 4th highest rated zerg in Kespa. Chojja's accomplishments in the past half year are NOT sufficiently better than IPX's to conclusively say Chojja is stronger than IPX. PARTICULARLY given the relatively small number of games played in a half year's worth of leagues. Moreover, if we extend our view back any further beyond your "half year" guideline, we see July as the clear dominant Zerg. You're going to argue that there's no justifiable reason for extending our view back, but your argument is based on the false assumption that a half year is a span of time that is anything other than arbitrary. In short, YOU ARE CHOOSING THE SPAN OF TIME TO LOOK AT THAT PORTRAY'S CHOJJA IN THE BEST LIGHT. You lose all rights to criticisze others of fanboy-ism when you so rampantly engage in it. As I outlined in my unbiased analysis (since I don't really have a Zerg idol or any particular reason to favor one Zerg over another), Chojja is clearly a top 3 Zerg right now, but there's not enough else there to justifiably argue that he is, beyond doubt, the best Zerg. the only matchup where CHojja conclusively stands as the dominant Zerg is ZvZ. His ZvP has yet to leave me as convinced as July or GoRush, and his ZvT has yet to leave me as convinced as IPX. I really don't see how you can argue otherwise on those points, unless you aren't actually watching any of the games he plays. | ||
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
On May 01 2006 13:48 1sd2sd3sd wrote: I remember a game where he wouldn't leave vs boxer when the game was seriously over and boxer found him by spreading wraiths all around. Also, I do not see him shake hands when he loses, maybe this is because I haven't seen a recent vod of him losing. Not leaving in a tournament match isnt really something I would hold against someone. And he DOES shake hands when he loses, more than when he wins from what I recall. I think his hand shaking deserves a thread of its own since he is one of the only players who will do it in any circumstance(Ive seen some players from same team or after a huge game do it).. The players on the other side always look so sullen when he does it, whether they win or lose. I am always wondering about if this is considered manner over there or what, it seems like more fucking players should do it, but I guess because its a bunch of young kids that they cant be expected to have much empathy yet. And on topic, Chojja is really old school and definitely has had a long long period of semi-slump. He has been qualifying for leagues pretty consistantly all along though I think. And I really think people are underrating his ZvT. He is pretty much as much of a threat as any other top Z in any match up and his ZvZ is near unconkable... Maybe his results havent reflected this for a while but he is on fire at the moment and we will just have to see if it keeps up. ;] I hope it does, I love the guy. | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
Drops against terran seems way out of fashion today, and there isn't a top level terran who cannot clear out his base with a handful of marines. | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
but just like any other race now, it is a timing and sneak attack thing. | ||
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UniversalMoron
Finland426 Posts
On May 01 2006 18:13 SuperJongMan wrote: I hope you die. Chojja's name is awesome. Means noobface. It's pronounced Cho - Jjah, like.. Cho Chya... but Jja.. feel me? And was Jja ever never top 5 zerg? No... Noobface? Hahah, that's great. I knew it had something to do with noob, but this I didn't know. I like the guy even more now. | ||
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