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Mig
United States4714 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
No one seems to be willing to consider anyone else other than Palmar. If Palmar/Curu are getting modkilled we need to lynch someone else, like Jackal, but again no one is considering others ATM! I don't understand what I should be doing to "focus on the game" when there are no alternate lynches thanks to this bandwagon combined with stupid situation | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
Also focus on the game. Please. | ||
Curu
Canada2817 Posts
Whatever, just play like no one is getting the modkill hammer. Like I said the host situation isn't even why I thought Palmar was scum, I would have pushed this lynch regardless. | ||
Curu
Canada2817 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
While him claiming BLU Pyro makes this a bit more confusing, if we can accept that whichever scumslip he posted was a mistake. Is it clear which scumslip he blames the case on him on? | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Is this how it works? Lol. This is fucking retarded. @Mig: I think Palmar's claim is fishy. He claimed earlier that the first two lines of his PM started with "BLU" but the sample roles in the OP only do that for RED pyro, not BLU pyro (where RED pyro starts with 2 REDs) However since this is another thing discussing role PMs let me just conveniently wipe this from my mind and just focus on the game at hand. If I have to ignore all of that then I'm not willing to vote palmar because the bandwagon on him has built up too fast and no one can say anything except that he incorrectly used meta. If I'm missing something about why Palmar is mafia please nlighten me, otherwise I think Jackal is a better lynch cause I see more reasons for him to be scum. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 30 2011 04:30 Forumite wrote: I don´t care what they did or did not say about what their PMs said, I couldn´t care less, my reason to vote on Palmar was because of so many saying his analysis was based on false information and cherry-picking metagame. While him claiming BLU Pyro makes this a bit more confusing, if we can accept that whichever scumslip he posted was a mistake. Is it clear which scumslip he blames the case on him on? Sounds like you sheeped and didn't look into any of this yourself. You basically just admitted to voting Palmar solely because of other people's reasons. Did you question those reasons? Why are you so quick to believe them? If Palmar is scum you're scum too. | ||
Curu
Canada2817 Posts
What's with your fascination on me? You wanted me lynched cause I wasn't contributing. Now I'm contributing but you still want me lynched. WBG went from "I'm watching you closely Palmar" to a reluctance to push him after a real push started on him. His case against Jackal is pure garbage, reasons like "you didn't vote in the vote thread" lol. If you want to go by meta (which you pretty much started the Jackal case on) Palmar's looks infinitely worse. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
I haven't voted Palmar for two simple reasons, reasons I've stated multiple times already. I'll repeat them for you now just in case it hasn't been clear. 1. I think Jackal is the better lynch, since there are more things that Jackal has done to be scummy than Palmar. 2. The bandwagon on Palmar has built up way too quickly and literally no one is defending him. He's getting bussed day 1, then? I'm also reluctant to push him because there's only one reason anyone is citing for voting Palmar, and that is, he used meta incorrectly. I don't really agree that he's used meta incorrectly. Since I disagree with the sole non-game-mechanic related reason to lynch palmar I don't really care to vote him right now. Finally, I'm sorry you can't recognise sarcasm. I don't particularly care to get you lynched unless Palmar flips town. If palmar flips town then you are mafia to me because you push easy town lynches, particularly day 1, as mafia. If Palmar flips mafia then I consider Forumite to be as well. | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
WBG do you have any reason whatsoever to think that Palmar is town besides "the wagon starting too fast". And the wagon hasn't started quickly at all, he still only has like 5 votes on him so what are you even talking about. | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
2) His reaction to curu's claim is hella scummy. Like I said a normal townie should have at least considered that maybe curu could be town. Instead palmar ignored new evidence and just attacked him again. | ||
Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On September 30 2011 04:45 wherebugsgo wrote: Nice assumption that I haven't been watching Palmar, Curu. I haven't voted Palmar for two simple reasons, reasons I've stated multiple times already. I'll repeat them for you now just in case it hasn't been clear. 1. I think Jackal is the better lynch, since there are more things that Jackal has done to be scummy than Palmar. 2. The bandwagon on Palmar has built up way too quickly and literally no one is defending him. He's getting bussed day 1, then? I'm also reluctant to push him because there's only one reason anyone is citing for voting Palmar, and that is, he used meta incorrectly. I don't really agree that he's used meta incorrectly. Since I disagree with the sole non-game-mechanic related reason to lynch palmar I don't really care to vote him right now. Finally, I'm sorry you can't recognise sarcasm. I don't particularly care to get you lynched unless Palmar flips town. If palmar flips town then you are mafia to me because you push easy town lynches, particularly day 1, as mafia. If Palmar flips mafia then I consider Forumite to be as well. Do you not see the inconsistency with your posts? You think Palmar is not scum because the only argument against him was meta. Then you think Jackal is the best lynch because of some horrible meta case Palmar pushed on him. How the fuck is Palmar an easy lynch? He's one of the most high profile players in this game. If I wanted to push an easy lynch I would probably be riding Sevyrn or Forumite into the grave or the Nisani/sinani duo again because I'm pretty sure no matter what they will look scummy arguing with me. | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Okay, so obviously one of the reasons is because I don't think Jackal plays like this day 1 as town. 2. He doesn't back up his suspicions with a vote. He says he's doing this to piss me off (lol) but in reality it just means he doesn't receive any attention because he's not contributing. Contribution involves discussion, and voting. Jackal is doing neither one of those. 3. He misconstrues OMGUS and claims I OMGUSed him. I clearly pointed out that you can't OMGUS someone who never voted for you, and he never actually even tries to refute this. Jackal isn't stupid like some of the other townies so I'd like to think he actually knows what OMGUS is. 4. He provides no input on anyone other than me. Clear lack of interest in contributing his opinion. This is not how he played in XLIV, SMG, MLP, or LoTR, all of which he was town and he contributed opinions, no matter how minimal, when asked. It follows his meta in resurrection where he just popped in now and then and said something irrelevant/dumb but was scared of Ace cause he looked third party. 5. He claimed to forget participation in a game in which he was alive for two days. 6. He has been inactive since people started voting me and Palmar. He has not said anything in this thread during the most active and important part of the day. with lynch two hours away his opinion/vote will come soon and none of us will be able to do anything about it till tomorrow. 7. I have asked if he has been in PM contact wit others, to establish whether Jackal is actually trying to contribute behind the scenes, but no one has come forth and said they have been in contact with him. This doesn't really help with his image of being relatively useless. | ||
Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On September 30 2011 04:51 Mig wrote: But how in the world is the case against Jackal even comparable to what palmar has done? Please summarize why exactly jackal is a better lynch instead of just repeating that he is over and over. They are scum buddies. If you go read the posts from the time Palmar first voted me (with no reason given) to the time he gave a reason and then Bugs immediately agreed with him (right after stating he was going to keep an eye on Palmar) the complicity is painfully obvious. I called Bugs scum. Palmar comes to the rescue. Bugs agrees with him immediately although he thinks Palmar may be scum. But I'm scum in his eyes but he's agreeing with the guy he called scummy first and is still softly FoSing. They're both scum. Bugs is attempting to make it appear he has distanced himself from Palmar. Palmar has given Bugs a reason to OMGUS me. And feel free to read my post regarding why I thought Bugs was scum. My belief that Palmar may be scum is mentioned there as well. I don't know when I'll get a chance to post again today but for now my vote is going on Palmar. | ||
Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On September 30 2011 05:04 wherebugsgo wrote: -_- clearly none of you read my vote post on Jackal. Okay, so obviously one of the reasons is because I don't think Jackal plays like this day 1 as town. 2. He doesn't back up his suspicions with a vote. He says he's doing this to piss me off (lol) but in reality it just means he doesn't receive any attention because he's not contributing. Contribution involves discussion, and voting. Jackal is doing neither one of those. 3. He misconstrues OMGUS and claims I OMGUSed him. I clearly pointed out that you can't OMGUS someone who never voted for you, and he never actually even tries to refute this. Jackal isn't stupid like some of the other townies so I'd like to think he actually knows what OMGUS is. 4. He provides no input on anyone other than me. Clear lack of interest in contributing his opinion. This is not how he played in XLIV, SMG, MLP, or LoTR, all of which he was town and he contributed opinions, no matter how minimal, when asked. It follows his meta in resurrection where he just popped in now and then and said something irrelevant/dumb but was scared of Ace cause he looked third party. 5. He claimed to forget participation in a game in which he was alive for two days. 6. He has been inactive since people started voting me and Palmar. He has not said anything in this thread during the most active and important part of the day. with lynch two hours away his opinion/vote will come soon and none of us will be able to do anything about it till tomorrow. 7. I have asked if he has been in PM contact wit others, to establish whether Jackal is actually trying to contribute behind the scenes, but no one has come forth and said they have been in contact with him. This doesn't really help with his image of being relatively useless. Your lack of a vote reason is pure BS. Your inability to understand or comprehend OMGUS is hilarious. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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