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Wow, that was some reaction from Curu, based on a misreading nonetheless.
What I´m saying, Curu, is that I can´t trust your metagame because you clearly state that you are aware of how you play and what it looks like, therefore I look at how you play now, and it doesn´t strike me as very helpfull to random vote Palmar, then only give the reason much later.
Checking your posts, I do find one good post, with the reasons form pushing Palmar. Is there anything else you want to add to your analysis, or is that post your case on him? Is there anything from PM-land you want to add?
The relevant part is bolded. + Show Spoiler +On September 29 2011 19:37 Curu wrote:
Alright so here's what I think:
Palmar is using meta arguments that are incorrect and weak to paint out Jackal as scum because of one post Jackal made. He's also being purposefully obtuse and calling me scummy because I am not playing like I was in AA (which was my first ever game, duh) which was something people seem to bring up every single game (Palmar's been a part of all of them and everyone's been wrong in every one of them). I don't think he actually believes what he is saying. I think Palmar is one of the best on TL in being able to differentiate stupidly posting Townies from scum but I'm not seeing any of it here.
risk.nuke and Sevyrn have even shittier posts than me.
Kenpachi is possibly a scum day Vig, I see no other reason for him to paint his name blue this time instead of green like all his other games.
WBG's attack on tnkted was pretty derp.
PS. sinani saying I ruin games is pretty fucking funny. This guy has goldfish memory or some shit.
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wtf do you mean you can't trust my metagame? You don't have the faintest clue what my Town play looks like.
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Both you and Palmar are doing it, making a mockery of your own scumplay, as if that makes it easier to believe you are Town. It doesn´t, it´s a nulltell, because being aware of your metagame allow you to change it.
On September 29 2011 12:12 Curu wrote:
I always mislynch Town day 1. So I'm not leading any lynches today.
If you take a look again at all my scum games I am very rawr rawr day 1 because I know I can get a Townie lynched and get away with it. tbh I haven't even read most of the thread yet, busy busy. On September 29 2011 23:49 Palmar wrote:
it's why my scum play is always glaringly obvious.
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Cool so if it's a nulltell why exactly am I more scummy than Palmar?
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Forumite, I don't understand your argument against Curu. Mig outlined a very good argument against Palmar, and yet you think Curu is more scummy?
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You both look scummy, I´m just focusing on you for now. My first impression was Curu acting odd, and I´ve more or less ignored Palmar until quite recently.
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On September 30 2011 01:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Forumite, I don't understand your argument against Curu. Mig outlined a very good argument against Palmar, and yet you think Curu is more scummy?
Does this mean you agree with Curu and Mig that Palmar is scum?
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I'll be in class for another hour starting in 10
Curu looks townish to me. If we lynch palmar and he flips town then we need to reconsider Curu, but based on his behavior I can't say he looks scummy.
Palmar looks scummy despite alignment so blah. He's made sense this game to me.
Thus, I still prefer Jackal. If anyone knows something I don't please let me know.
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I sent TWO pms and now the wizard won't let me PM anymore :-(
*cries in a corner*
I will reply to your witty question at a later moment Mr.Zebra, hopefully when the enchanters curse has been broken
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On September 30 2011 01:43 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 01:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Forumite, I don't understand your argument against Curu. Mig outlined a very good argument against Palmar, and yet you think Curu is more scummy? Does this mean you agree with Curu and Mig that Palmar is scum?
I think it is a very strong possibility, yes. Palmar's arguments have been almost entirely based on meta. And Mig caught him completely ignoring games that were more recent in order to get his point across.
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On September 30 2011 02:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 01:43 Forumite wrote:On September 30 2011 01:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Forumite, I don't understand your argument against Curu. Mig outlined a very good argument against Palmar, and yet you think Curu is more scummy? Does this mean you agree with Curu and Mig that Palmar is scum? I think it is a very strong possibility, yes. Palmar's arguments have been almost entirely based on meta. And Mig caught him completely ignoring games that were more recent in order to get his point across.
Pick and choose, choose and pick, every man cannot paint everything, but everything can paint a man. Can a painting paint a man?
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On September 30 2011 02:05 NotChezinu wrote:
I sent TWO pms and now the wizard won't let me PM anymore :-(
*cries in a corner*
I will reply to your witty question at a later moment Mr.Zebra, hopefully when the enchanters curse has been broken
Get on IRC, most people are on there.
prplhz needs to post more, he has a lot of one-liners... he's really just shutting down people's plans/ideas and not saying anything of his own. Keep an eye on him.
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The boogieman lives in the IRC. I'm too scared, I'll stay here in the thread where people are friendly and like singing, and in PM land, where I lost my cat.
Poor Fluffles. all alone in PM land...
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Couldn't you have picked something less annoying to smurf as GMarshal?
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I don't like the bugs lynch. He is being spammy and annoying and doing bad OMGUS votes. I've seen him play in 2 games before this, both as town and he was spammy and annoying in those and did bad OMGUS votes. Yes it is OMGUS. He claims you are scum, then you vote him. Semantics about him not actually voting are semantics.
I have completely no idea how to read Palmar since he abused the hell out of me in XLIV as town and his derailing of Lord of the Rings. His Jackal vote was weak as hell but then most of his early reads are poor so I'm not sure what to think yet. The headbutting with Curu is just an ego battle.
The Chezinu lynch is bad cos he is renowned for playing like a wierdo and supposedly hasn't even opened his role PM yet.
The Jackal lynch is bad cos he's always quiet on day 1. I fail to see how he has claimed mute. It is true that he hasn't replied to my PM but then PMing me got him killed in Werewolves so I understand, even though I'm hurt 
Basically all the lynches with more than 1 vote on them at the moment are poor in my opinion.
I want to lynch Sevryn.
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Sevryn is voting NotChezinu for trolling. This coming after he spent about half his posts rhyming and rapping.
He claims Chezinu is a lurker. Deflecting lynches onto lurkers is pro-mafia play.
No other contributions at all beside rapping and Chezinu needs to die cos he's a lurker. Voting Sevryn.
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On September 30 2011 02:49 DropBear wrote:I don't like the bugs lynch. He is being spammy and annoying and doing bad OMGUS votes. I've seen him play in 2 games before this, both as town and he was spammy and annoying in those and did bad OMGUS votes. Yes it is OMGUS. He claims you are scum, then you vote him. Semantics about him not actually voting are semantics. I have completely no idea how to read Palmar since he abused the hell out of me in XLIV as town and his derailing of Lord of the Rings. His Jackal vote was weak as hell but then most of his early reads are poor so I'm not sure what to think yet. The headbutting with Curu is just an ego battle. The Chezinu lynch is bad cos he is renowned for playing like a wierdo and supposedly hasn't even opened his role PM yet. The Jackal lynch is bad cos he's always quiet on day 1. I fail to see how he has claimed mute. It is true that he hasn't replied to my PM but then PMing me got him killed in Werewolves so I understand, even though I'm hurt Basically all the lynches with more than 1 vote on them at the moment are poor in my opinion. I want to lynch Sevryn.
What?
So you are saying nothing at all with your first real post and then want to lynch someone while giving no reason or any form of analysis?
Have you made an effort reading this thread? Mig provided some really strong analysis on Palmar, and while I dont like the way Curu has been posting , right now I think Palmar is our best shot at lynching scum today.
##Unvote
## Vote Palmar
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On September 30 2011 02:57 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 02:49 DropBear wrote:I don't like the bugs lynch. He is being spammy and annoying and doing bad OMGUS votes. I've seen him play in 2 games before this, both as town and he was spammy and annoying in those and did bad OMGUS votes. Yes it is OMGUS. He claims you are scum, then you vote him. Semantics about him not actually voting are semantics. I have completely no idea how to read Palmar since he abused the hell out of me in XLIV as town and his derailing of Lord of the Rings. His Jackal vote was weak as hell but then most of his early reads are poor so I'm not sure what to think yet. The headbutting with Curu is just an ego battle. The Chezinu lynch is bad cos he is renowned for playing like a wierdo and supposedly hasn't even opened his role PM yet. The Jackal lynch is bad cos he's always quiet on day 1. I fail to see how he has claimed mute. It is true that he hasn't replied to my PM but then PMing me got him killed in Werewolves so I understand, even though I'm hurt Basically all the lynches with more than 1 vote on them at the moment are poor in my opinion. I want to lynch Sevryn. What? So you are saying nothing at all with your first real post and then want to lynch someone while giving no reason or any form of analysis? Have you made an effort reading this thread? Mig provided some really strong analysis on Palmar, and while I dont like the way Curu has been posting , right now I think Palmar is our best shot at lynching scum today. ##Unvote ## Vote Palmar
Yes I have read the thread.
Mig's prime argument against Palmar is that he is a better player than his play in this game. My personal experience is that in fact his early play sucks in this game because his early play sucks in general. This is the guy who was renowned for shooting DTs we are talking about, plus his play in the last 2 games I've been involved in, once as town and once third party, was erratic and disruptive too.
I much prefer to lynch Sevryn than Palmar.
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