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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 29 2011 20:10 GMT
#481
Calling him scummy cause he didn't vote or arguing semantics that OMGUS isn't possible without a vote are the most ridiculous reasons I've ever heard of.

Everything else is pure meta, and from a pure meta standpoint Palmar is much worse than Jackal yet you are purposely not seeing that.
wat
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 20:12 GMT
#482
I give up, this is just ridiculous.

I'm seriously shocked no one in this town fucking knows what OMGUS is.
NotChezinu
Profile Joined September 2011
Zimbabwe61 Posts
September 29 2011 20:15 GMT
#483
On September 30 2011 05:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
I give up, this is just ridiculous.

I'm seriously shocked no one in this town fucking knows what OMGUS is.

Only Morons Give Up Soon?
Old Moldy Gryphons Upturn Society?

My PM machine is still broken, the great wizard has yet to answer my pleas to remove this vile hex.
I am not Chezinu. Really. I am no role and all roles at once. Scum and Town. My alignment is unobserved.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 29 2011 20:15 GMT
#484
If I called you scum and pushed you hard with valid reasons but left my vote off you and you pushed back that I was scum, that is more OMGUS than me voting Palmar with a random vote at the start of the game and having him push me for it.

I'm seriously shocked you actually think this is something scummy.
wat
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 29 2011 20:16 GMT
#485
On September 30 2011 05:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
I give up, this is just ridiculous.

I'm seriously shocked no one in this town fucking knows what OMGUS is.


I am seriousy shocked that you care so much about that instead of posting something of value.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 20:16 GMT
#486
On September 30 2011 05:15 Curu wrote:
If I called you scum and pushed you hard with valid reasons but left my vote off you and you pushed back that I was scum, that is more OMGUS than me voting Palmar with a random vote at the start of the game and having him push me for it.

I'm seriously shocked you actually think this is something scummy.


Guess what, Jackal never had a valid reason to "FoS" me.

If he had a valid reason, you know what he would've done?

He would've VOTED me.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 20:17 GMT
#487
On September 30 2011 05:16 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 05:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
I give up, this is just ridiculous.

I'm seriously shocked no one in this town fucking knows what OMGUS is.


I am seriousy shocked that you care so much about that instead of posting something of value.


Erandor don't be a hypocrite
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 29 2011 20:18 GMT
#488
WBG the point is arguing about omgus doesn't matter. Some of your reasons for voting jackal are kind of ok but most are terrible and completely reaching. Do Jackal's posts seem that scummy to you? Most of his posts seem very reasonable to me.

And honestly Palmar really hasn't tried that hard to survive. Palmar is a townie at heart if he were really a dt I would expect him to be fighting non stop against this lynch and prevent the town from making a massive mistake.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 29 2011 20:20 GMT
#489
Yours/Palmar's reasons for pushing him in the first place are just as valid as his for pushing you.

Why is him not voting for you such a big deal to you?
wat
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 29 2011 20:23 GMT
#490
But seriously this is the ultimate setup for Palmar as a dt. If he gets a green check he has a confirmed townie he can pm with and he is confident I am town. I can't see palmar putting in such a piss poor effort as a townie when this is the perfect scenario for him to be active and excel in. He is much much better than this.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 20:26 GMT
#491
On September 30 2011 05:18 Mig wrote:
WBG the point is arguing about omgus doesn't matter. Some of your reasons for voting jackal are kind of ok but most are terrible and completely reaching. Do Jackal's posts seem that scummy to you? Most of his posts seem very reasonable to me.

And honestly Palmar really hasn't tried that hard to survive. Palmar is a townie at heart if he were really a dt I would expect him to be fighting non stop against this lynch and prevent the town from making a massive mistake.


Yes, Jackal's posts seem scummy to me. If they didn't I wouldn't be voting him.

As for Palmar I've already said that I find things weird about him. His claim doesn't seem genuine to me and the mod business paints him as scum. I'm willing to consider him scum for those reasons but I'm willing to consider him town because he's receiving votes rather fast.

I also disagree with him using meta incorrectly (I agree with his statement that Jackal's behaviour doesn't conform with his meta)

He has 6 votes and is clearly in the lead.

Lastly I've also discussed what I think we should after Palmar flips (with so little time I assume no one else can be lynched)

If Palmar flips town then Curu needs to be lynched. If Palmar flips mafia then I think we should lynch Forumite and look at incog.

In either case Jackal will remain scummy. From what I know Palmar busses a teammate and establishes townies as scum day 1 (he did it in SMG) to throw in a mix and stay unclear if he's lynched. That means we should consider all the players he's mentioned, and also any players who seemed reluctant to vote Palmar but ended up doing so by sheeping him under pressure anyway.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 29 2011 20:28 GMT
#492
If Palmar flips Town I need to be lynched based on what?
wat
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 20:30 GMT
#493
On September 30 2011 05:20 Curu wrote:
Yours/Palmar's reasons for pushing him in the first place are just as valid as his for pushing you.

Why is him not voting for you such a big deal to you?


What?

How is Jackal's reason for pushing me relevant? Jackal pushed me because I was "making sense". That's a town tell, not a mafia tell, and it's possibly the worst reason I've ever seen anyone come up with for suspecting someone.

Jackal has never been correct about alignment. Never. It doesn't look like he's going to be correct any time soon.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 20:33 GMT
#494
That should be *my alignment

I already explained why we should lynch you if Palmar flips town. Your scum meta is pushing easy town lynches day 1 (if Palmar is town then it fits, he's definitely an easy lynch) for relatively weak reasons. IMO the reason for lynching Palmar is weak so if he flips town you're seeking mislynches.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 29 2011 20:43 GMT
#495
What's your definition of a weak lynch then? You call everything I push day 1 a weak lynch.

Your reasons for voting Jackal are complete bullshit and you call me out for mine for Palmar. lol. WBG is probably scum, he's not this stupid.
wat
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
September 29 2011 20:50 GMT
#496
##Vote Palmar
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 20:52 GMT
#497
Rofl I'm stupid.

I feel like all I'm doing is repeating myself to you, and I'm starting to lose my patience.

Weak lynch: weak reasons, people voting the target without backing up their votes, the target getting bandwagoned by multiple people.

There are only two people who have provided reasons for voting Palmar. You, and Mig.
Everyone else has sheeped you two. Do you agree with this assessment?

Lastly, you keep saying my reasons for voting Jackal are bullshit but you never say why. Why is Jackal a townie to you? What do you see that I don't?

If I'm so stupid, please enlighten me about your friendly town Jackal.

Also, please enlighten me on the definition of OMGUS.

Afaik it's a reactionary vote based on no reasons other than being voted on in the first place.

From my perspective my vote on Jackal isn't OMGUS cause he didn't vote me and I actually have legitimate reasons to vote him as opposed to just voting because he suspected/voted me.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 20:53 GMT
#498
Oh look risk.nuke voted Palmar for no reason too!

This lynch is hilarious.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 29 2011 20:55 GMT
#499
So I have legitimate reasons for voting Palmar but I'm probably scum because people are following my vote.

You are hilarious.
wat
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 20:57 GMT
#500
Omfg are you reading anything I'm writing?

YOU ARE SCUM IF PALMAR FLIPS TOWN

Jesus fucking Christ I said nothing about you being scum other than that
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