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On August 27 2011 02:27 chenchen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 02:23 PepperoniPiZZa wrote: Sang kuh pul is really creepy. Are korean schoolgirls really that obsessed with looking like western girls?
I think they're all beautiful :3 These are traditional East Asian beauty standards . . it has nothing to do with white people. Koreans don't like European eyes, as most Europeans have deepset eyes and prominent brows. They want to look like the East Asians who naturally have double eyelids (about a quarter in Korea and over half in some parts of China)
QFT
And as for Hannah ya I'd smash that. Fit girls are sexy nothing wrong with some muscle on a girl.
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It would greatly be appreciated if the movie had a chart or something that outlined how their progresion of learning happens. Like pre algelbra -> algelbra- > and so on. ! !
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im a slack off i feel so stupid now
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I wonder if parents are labeled shameful for driving their kids to suicide. Also that part where the girls laughed while discussing surgery was really weird for me, o.o.
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As someone who lived in Korea for 10 years, let me straighten the facts out a bit.
On August 27 2011 06:28 pred470r wrote: LOL I just saw the entire preview, and I gotta say that it had almost nothing in common with what the OP described. The entire thing was all about what Korean girls think is a pretty woman, and why they decide to go through a plastic surgery. From what I can see there's an easy solution to their problem. #1 Make it so that high-schools aren't girls/boys only, and instead mix them, so that they can interact easier, and probably get an actual idea of what the opposing sex finds attractive in them. #2 Get laid ffs. The mentality "I have bracers, so that means 3 years forever alone" is just plainly bad. #3 kind of similar to #1 get them to do some more out of class events, and camps so that they can interact more with other people. #4 Don't be like your parents when you grow up, unless you want your kids to also commit suicide. Problems solved P.S. Don't wait till you finish high-school to get drunk for the first time, you don't know what you're missing out.
I know you are trying to give your sincere opinions, but they are very much out of context. It's fairly obvious you are not familiar with Korean education scene: It is much, much more competitive there. High schools, and even junior high schools get classified into 'university level school' and 2-year/1-year program college level schools. Once the students get put into their respective schools, chances are they will go down that road. So that competition begins literally in elementary school.
They have that girls only / boys only schools in order to raise academic efficiency. Such logic may seem irrational in most countries, but in Korea, since they have such high level of competition, it does make sense to have such systems.
#4. Parents make their children go through such rigorous schedule from elementary years just because they know how tough the competition is - and they want their child to do better than them - which basically comes down to harsher life for their kids.
On August 27 2011 11:44 deadlywaffles wrote: american schools are easy to get into, but hard to get out.
korean schools are hard to get into but easy to get out.
something really needs to be changed if the harder working asians are studying.. 16x longer than an american, but americans are the ones getting into college >.>
I just wanna put your statement into proper perspective. Yes that is a popular saying, but make note that it is a relative term when they say it's easier to get out (ie. universities are easier). When they say universities are easier compared to Korean high schools that puts the bar right at or at least close to the western universities.
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I am wondering how the filmmaker managed to "attend Korean high school". She has already graduated from high school i the states as she said and I assume she has some university prospects if she wishes with all of her accomplishes and what not so there would seem to be no academic value in doing so. Is she simply auditing or does she get stuff out of attending, etc? Pure curiosity.
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On August 27 2011 14:27 LuciferSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 11:44 deadlywaffles wrote: american schools are easy to get into, but hard to get out.
korean schools are hard to get into but easy to get out.
something really needs to be changed if the harder working asians are studying.. 16x longer than an american, but americans are the ones getting into college >.> I just wanna put your statement into proper perspective. Yes that is a popular saying, but make note that it is a relative term when they say it's easier to get out (ie. universities are easier). When they say universities are easier compared to Korean high schools that puts the bar right at or at least close to the western universities.
In terms of difficulty, like you said, western university can be compared to a korean/asian high school. But in the end, you can't get a secure job with a high school degree from any country. Companies will be looking for that college degree
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On August 27 2011 14:55 deadlywaffles wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 14:27 LuciferSC wrote:On August 27 2011 11:44 deadlywaffles wrote: american schools are easy to get into, but hard to get out.
korean schools are hard to get into but easy to get out.
something really needs to be changed if the harder working asians are studying.. 16x longer than an american, but americans are the ones getting into college >.> I just wanna put your statement into proper perspective. Yes that is a popular saying, but make note that it is a relative term when they say it's easier to get out (ie. universities are easier). When they say universities are easier compared to Korean high schools that puts the bar right at or at least close to the western universities. In terms of difficulty, like you said, western university can be compared to a korean/asian high school. But in the end, you can't get a secure job with a high school degree from any country. Companies will be looking for that college degree
No that's not what I said. I was comparing the difficulty of Korean universities to that of Western universities.
In that light, and speaking in general term, Korean high schools definitely pressure their students to put in more effort and work, compared to that of Western universities.
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Interesting watch, I'll keep note of this for when it's released.
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Well if we take the documentary at face value (as in, those interviewed are representative of Korean culture), it definitely seems there's a big issue with self-confidence in general.
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Girl with the pink backpack is so cute.
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On August 27 2011 15:09 Craton wrote: Well if we take the documentary at face value (as in, those interviewed are representative of Korean culture), it definitely seems there's a big issue with self-confidence in general.
Its not just korean culture, but east asian culture in general. Being raised the "asian" way, asian kids are taught that no matter how high their grades are, or whatever they achieve that they will always be inadequate. Parents use any evidence of a single child outperforming you as the person you should have been. So the expectations of students is huge, not just in Korea, but in China, Taiwan and Japan. Although I can say for a certain that at least Taiwanese people do not seem so superficial about beauty having lived there.
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this is why i tell my parents i never want to live in korea. the stress will kill me
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The biggest thing that surprised me when I came here to teach is the culture of vanity. Everyone is impeccably dressed and ironed in high-end fashion, six/seven year old kids who wear Ralph Lauren and Beanpole. Girls/women will tell you lies just to look better ('I'm studying this....', when they're definitely not). Everyone drones on about things being good for health while the streets are jammed with scooters doing Pizza Hut/McDonalds home delivery (but they won't be seen buying it). Weekend culture for young people is centered around glitzy malls selling high-end brands and most stores above the second floor are comestic/skin/surgery orientated. When I went to the Jisan Valley rock festival I saw some of the alternative culture, but generally everyone was still the same.
I don't teach high school but the kids generally go to school 9:00-7:00 or 9-9:30 for the middle schoolers, when you include after-school academies. Despite the dark tone of the trailer, everyone is pretty bright and happy apart from the middle schoolers who are so so so tired when you teach them at 8:30 at night, and they are bright when they leave. Back home in the UK our kids are setting the country on fire because the lives of young people and schooling sucks, but we have thriving alternative communities and the obsession with looks is nowhere near as bad. I dunno. I love Korea but it has a dark side.
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If we had more of a Korean mentality in America, maybe our women wouldn't be so fat and slutty. Just sayin'. It's not much of a wonder why the divorce rate here is over 50% nowadays.
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Korean beauty obsession, double eye lids. Holy fuck didn't know such a small thing did such a big difference to the koreans. wow.
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That double eyelid is fucking weird as hell. I have it so I guess by their standards I'm ahead already!
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On August 27 2011 02:08 GizmoPT wrote: god that black teacher should be fired teaching that crap......
what the hell really teaching beauty surgeries are good ? -.-
...what the fuck are you on about?
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On August 27 2011 19:56 NeVeR wrote: If we had more of a Korean mentality in America, maybe our women wouldn't be so fat and slutty. Just sayin'. It's not much of a wonder why the divorce rate here is over 50% nowadays.
Awwww, woman hate you huh?
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