EPTI don't really see why this is a bad thing, I wish it was here in the U.S. as well. It would improve us greatly and the only price seems to be having failures kill themselves.
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Valestrum
United States246 Posts
I don't really see why this is a bad thing, I wish it was here in the U.S. as well. It would improve us greatly and the only price seems to be having failures kill themselves. | ||
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novabossa
United States350 Posts
On August 27 2011 04:23 domovoi wrote: Is this really true though? Pretty much every teen magazine in the US is dedicated to fashion and beauty. I don't see any evidence that Korea is more vain than other Asian countries or the US or Europe. It is, sadly. One of the main differences between US culture and Korean culture is that American teenage youth tend to be more independent, probably because of the differences in parenting ideologies. This means they're less likely to become obsessed with superficial values (unlike Korean teenage girls, who are easily sucked into it because they are used to people telling them what to do). This in turn causes a "snowball" effect in Korean culture where beauty becomes abnormally prized. P.S. I hear Japan is similar, though. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46484 Posts
I didn't realize eyes were such a big deal... | ||
white_horse
1019 Posts
On August 27 2011 19:19 KT s0ng wrote: The biggest thing that surprised me when I came here to teach is the culture of vanity. Everyone is impeccably dressed and ironed in high-end fashion, six/seven year old kids who wear Ralph Lauren and Beanpole. Girls/women will tell you lies just to look better ('I'm studying this....', when they're definitely not). Everyone drones on about things being good for health while the streets are jammed with scooters doing Pizza Hut/McDonalds home delivery (but they won't be seen buying it). Weekend culture for young people is centered around glitzy malls selling high-end brands and most stores above the second floor are comestic/skin/surgery orientated. When I went to the Jisan Valley rock festival I saw some of the alternative culture, but generally everyone was still the same. I don't teach high school but the kids generally go to school 9:00-7:00 or 9-9:30 for the middle schoolers, when you include after-school academies. Despite the dark tone of the trailer, everyone is pretty bright and happy apart from the middle schoolers who are so so so tired when you teach them at 8:30 at night, and they are bright when they leave. Back home in the UK our kids are setting the country on fire because the lives of young people and schooling sucks, but we have thriving alternative communities and the obsession with looks is nowhere near as bad. I dunno. I love Korea but it has a dark side. Your generalization of korean society is simply wrong. | ||
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sickle
New Zealand656 Posts
On August 27 2011 22:45 white_horse wrote: Your generalization of korean society is simply wrong. Compelling argument, friend. | ||
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insaneMicro
Germany761 Posts
On August 27 2011 22:34 Valestrum wrote: So let me get this straight.. The Women are hotter, students actually all study and are smart, AND the ones who aren't smart kill themselves? I don't really see why this is a bad thing, I wish it was here in the U.S. as well. It would improve us greatly and the only price seems to be having failures kill themselves. You can't be serious. Young people ending their lives because they can't live up to the expectations of their environment is one of the msot horrible things I've ever heard of. I'm all for competition, hard work + Show Spoiler + and hot highschool girls  What kind of youth is spent drudging along dimly lit floors and rote learning for 16 hours/day? I'm really sad for Korean highschoolers. T_T | ||
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white_horse
1019 Posts
Because having to explain that phrases like everyone is or everyone does are ignorant isn't necessary for intelligent people like you. | ||
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KT s0ng
Korea (South)88 Posts
Reminds me of this: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/magazine/another-thing-to-sort-of-pin-on-david-foster-wallace.html?_r=3&pagewanted=all Do not say a statement! Include words like pretty maybe sometimes often "IT'S JUST MY OPINION" "IMO". Jeez. p.s. If you're being defensive, which I sense you are, no need to be. I love Korea and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. It's OK to talk about your feelings, whether good or bad. | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
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MozzarellaL
United States822 Posts
On August 27 2011 21:43 Copymizer wrote: Korean beauty obsession, double eye lids. Holy fuck didn't know such a small thing did such a big difference to the koreans. wow. It's every Asian culture dude. For the past three thousand years, the Chinese were obsessed with women who had pale, white skin, and double lidded eyes. And for the past three thousand years (ending in around the 1900's), China's chief export has been cultural hegemony over its neighbors. In all seriousness, why is it such a big surprise? Certain genetic mutations have always been seen as more attractive, why do you think so many Caucasian females dye their hair blonde? It's the same exact thing. | ||
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kemo
United States5 Posts
I guess maybe it's more emphasized by the fact that plastic surgery is more widely accepted among the youth in Korea. I'm pretty sure if you ask most girls in highschool in America or anywhere else really if they have features that they would want to change they could make a list for you. The difference here is that plastic surgery is such a common thing that the students actually go through with it? | ||
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Jombozeus
China1014 Posts
"Oh, I could never do that myself, therefore it must be wrong, and I must help them change it." Where have I seen THAT before? Oh yeah like everywhere. | ||
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NeVeR
1352 Posts
lol yeah you got me. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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NeVeR
1352 Posts
On August 27 2011 23:39 krndandaman wrote: Divorce rate isn't that much different in SK. It's 3rd behind the U.S. and U.K. And the girls in Korea can be equally as slutty... Hrm, source? I looked at a few lists of divorce statistics by country and SK wasn't listed anywhere. Also girls in any country can be slutty of course, but I was referring to the norm. | ||
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Malgrif
Canada1095 Posts
On August 28 2011 00:14 NeVeR wrote: Hrm, source? I looked at a few lists of divorce statistics by country and SK wasn't listed anywhere. Also girls in any country can be slutty of course, but I was referring to the norm. yeah i agree, since their uniforms are forced and they're too busy studying i don't see how highschool girls are equally slutty there. especially since they shun relationships... | ||
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Vinnesta
Singapore285 Posts
On August 27 2011 22:34 Valestrum wrote: So let me get this straight.. The Women are hotter, students actually all study and are smart, AND the ones who aren't smart kill themselves? I don't really see why this is a bad thing, I wish it was here in the U.S. as well. It would improve us greatly and the only price seems to be having failures kill themselves. ONLY price is having failures kill themselves? Every life lost is a tragedy. And those lost in vain, because of the combination of stress and teenage emotions, is even more tragic. While I accept that everyone has a different tolerance for the Darwinian elimination of human beings, condoning a system where people kill themselves over academics and vanity is just inhumane. It was a bit shocking to watch the girl talk about her senior and her peer committing suicide. She showed almost no sorrow or sympathy when talking about them, as though suicide was such a trivial issue. With such a mindset, it'll be difficult to reduce the rate of suicides amongst Korean youths. I sure hope the situation is not as bad as I made it out to be. | ||
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soulpoetry
United Kingdom177 Posts
On August 28 2011 00:39 Vinnesta wrote: It was a bit shocking to watch the girl talk about her senior and her peer committing suicide. She showed almost no sorrow or sympathy when talking about them, as though suicide was such a trivial issue. With such a mindset, it'll be difficult to reduce the rate of suicides amongst Korean youths. I sure hope the situation is not as bad as I made it out to be. this is what stood out to me as well although they could have not really known each other that well. i mean everyone i have on facebook or something i'd consider a friend if i was talking about them. | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
But yeah, I knew of the students who committed suicide and the obsession with beauty, but seeing and hearing these things first-hand from Korean students is a much different experience. The way they talked about surgery as a common thing seems so strange to someone like me. | ||
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