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Woongjin Stars: Difficult to participate in Proleague, not…

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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
October 01 2013 15:37 GMT
#1
Source: http://fomos.co.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=135879&db=issue, http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=135876&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

Fomos reports that the Woongjin Stars front office has stated it will be "difficult to compete in the Proleague." Woongjin stars had just recently waived 6 core players in Free, Bravo, Organ, ZerO, Aria, and Hanbin.

Under KeSPA rules, players released on waivers have two weeks to sign a contract with a team or their player status is revoked for one year (probably only relevant to Proleague in the SC2 environment).

Woongjin stated that the team is NOT disbanding, but had waived players as they could not agree on new contracts. Soulkey is said to have been signed as a personal sponsorship, while negotiations with sOs are still in progress. Woongjin stated it would be likely that Soulkey and sOs would be signed under personal sponsorships, and the team would continue on with head coach Lee Jae Gyun, Soulkey, and sOs with plans to develop new players.

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NuEnergy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands46 Posts
October 01 2013 15:39 GMT
#2
makes me wonder why the left kespa really unless that doesnt gotta do anything with it
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 01 2013 15:40 GMT
#3
WHY GLOB WHY



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herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2055 Posts
October 01 2013 15:41 GMT
#4
A skeleton crew with two big names, wow.

It's painful to see teams disband disperse into others but that's just natural since the scene isn't big enough to support everyone.
Marjosz
Profile Joined October 2011
39 Posts
October 01 2013 15:44 GMT
#5
sc2 ded gejm

User was banned for this post.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 01 2013 15:44 GMT
#6
Join forces with Soul. Soul.Soulkey/Soul.Key will happen. Oh yes, it will happen.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 01 2013 15:45 GMT
#7
Lack of funding sucks. But Kespa seems to be having a hard time across the board. They rely so much on large Korean sponsors, that it all falls apart when those sponsors move on. To bad, but it is the growing pains for Kespa.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 01 2013 15:46 GMT
#8
On October 02 2013 00:44 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Join forces with Soul. Soul.Soulkey/Soul.Key will happen. Oh yes, it will happen.

seems likely.
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Trius
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine273 Posts
October 01 2013 15:46 GMT
#9
This is just next level of zombi.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 01 2013 15:53 GMT
#10
Okey somebody said in that another thread. There aren't any more 5 players. Hammer, KassiA and Switft were out already before this it seems.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
October 01 2013 15:56 GMT
#11
So Woongjin Stars is just a personal sponsorship for Soulkey now?

That's really sad
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
October 01 2013 16:04 GMT
#12
we are not dead, we just smell this way....
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5218 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 16:06:09
October 01 2013 16:05 GMT
#13
On October 02 2013 00:45 Plansix wrote:
Lack of funding sucks. But Kespa seems to be having a hard time across the board. They rely so much on large Korean sponsors, that it all falls apart when those sponsors move on. To bad, but it is the growing pains for Kespa.


Everything has a lifespan, is born/created, grows/expands, and then withers and dies. People, plants, companies, worlds, galaxies, ect...

I don't think Kespa is in the growing stage, they are in the withering stage. They could make a comeback, but this isn't growing pains at all, it is shrinking pains.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
October 01 2013 16:17 GMT
#14
wow, this is insane

WJS really now just Soulkey+sOs+2 trainees?

maybe those trainees will get more exposure now

Good luck to those released and to WJS as well
jjakji fan
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 01 2013 16:19 GMT
#15
People who know my post history will know that this is out of character, but...

+ Show Spoiler +
What the ever living fuck balls dickwad! Fuck you Blizz, fuck you and your inability to grasp that winrates mean jack fucking shit! Winrates are just that--winrates! No one whined when Savior had an almost 90% winrate against Terran! No one batted an eyelash when nada, midas, oov had an 80% winrate against Zerg; audience participation boomed! Imbalance is something that brings audiences in! Do you think Idra was famous for good play or for whining about balance? FUCK YES MAKE THE GAME IMBALANCED! We WANT the game to be imbalanced. We want to have to make maps that forces strategies instead of preserving them, we want to be forced to cheese or die, we want to see someone figure out a way to stop said cheese, we want macro games to birth out of a world where cheese happens 90% of the time. BECAUSE ONLY THEN ARE MACRO GAMES IMPRESSIVE! Outside of this post I will still remain objective and show the pros and fucking cons of everything you implement, everything you have implemented, and everything you will implement--but FUCK! FUCKITY FUCK-FUCK YOU FUCKING FUCKS! Blizzard! Stop being so... EA!


People please kindly ignore the spoilered text.

User was temp banned for this post.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
October 01 2013 16:20 GMT
#16
Argh, worst disband since MBC Hero.

Someone gotta unify the Korean scene already! (and pay people, cuz, y´know, working for money is kinda nice)
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 01 2013 16:21 GMT
#17
On October 02 2013 01:20 Daswollvieh wrote:
Argh, worst disband since MBC Hero.

Someone gotta unify the Korean scene already! (and pay people, cuz, y´know, working for money is kinda nice)


Well, working for no money is slavery. Or internship. Or prison.

Oh interns
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
krooked
Profile Joined May 2011
376 Posts
October 01 2013 16:22 GMT
#18
iloveoov sure changed the tone of people by saying DK is balancing too much.

brb imbalanced game ftw rofl. The issue with sc2 isn't even balance, its the way its designed. Its too volatile and the optimal 3 bases destroys making small skirmish-like plays. Its not what DK has been doing that ruined sc2, not by a long shot.
braller
Profile Joined January 2013
96 Posts
October 01 2013 16:23 GMT
#19
On October 02 2013 01:19 Thieving Magpie wrote:
People who know my post history will know that this is out of character, but...

+ Show Spoiler +
What the ever living fuck balls dickwad! Fuck you Blizz, fuck you and your inability to grasp that winrates mean jack fucking shit! Winrates are just that--winrates! No one whined when Savior had an almost 90% winrate against Terran! No one batted an eyelash when nada, midas, oov had an 80% winrate against Zerg; audience participation boomed! Imbalance is something that brings audiences in! Do you think Idra was famous for good play or for whining about balance? FUCK YES MAKE THE GAME IMBALANCED! We WANT the game to be imbalanced. We want to have to make maps that forces strategies instead of preserving them, we want to be forced to cheese or die, we want to see someone figure out a way to stop said cheese, we want macro games to birth out of a world where cheese happens 90% of the time. BECAUSE ONLY THEN ARE MACRO GAMES IMPRESSIVE! Outside of this post I will still remain objective and show the pros and fucking cons of everything you implement, everything you have implemented, and everything you will implement--but FUCK! FUCKITY FUCK-FUCK YOU FUCKING FUCKS! Blizzard! Stop being so... EA!


People please kindly ignore the spoilered text.


This has very little to do with Blizzard's balancing strategy. Significant shrinkage was basically inevitable.
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
October 01 2013 16:24 GMT
#20
Yeah I think Woongjin is almost done . So sad to see such a powerhouse go
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