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On October 02 2013 05:30 NoGasfOu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 00:45 Plansix wrote:
Lack of funding sucks. But Kespa seems to be having a hard time across the board. They rely so much on large Korean sponsors, that it all falls apart when those sponsors move on. To bad, but it is the growing pains for Kespa. You don't have to worry for Kespa. They have LoL to cash in money. Dumping SC2 and adding LoL as the main game means growth. Just worry for your favorite game and the SC2 scene! Kespa is saying this to Blizzard: "Screws you, I'm dumping your game and taking in Riot's and Valve's game"
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430781
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Oh great, at least they're not disbanding even though all the players are gone
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Soul, Khan, Jin Air, now WS. who will be the next KeSPA team to have a roster overhaul? My guess is KT Rolster.
The days of extremely large teams are over. It takes too many resources to sustain, and there's just not enough profit in Korean SC2 right now. My guess is also that Startale, MVP, IM will have a few player cuts soon.
One positive thing that may result from this is that all these Koreans who want to continue their professional player career, will have to join a foreign team, a Chinese team, or a less competitive Korean team. I think that the mass concentration of talent Starcraft being mostly in Korea, has affected the popularity of Starcraft as an e-sport. The talent finally dispersing to other regions will definitely be positive in the long haul, but right now there are still growing pains.
Good luck to all the ex-WS players, especially those joining new teams, or making it into the Challenger series!
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can't they find some other sponsors? 
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Somehow AZUBU is less of a zombie team than stars. Crazy.
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Sounds like they are adopting the good ole ESF sweatshop business model.
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bad news for SC2 every day, it seems
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god damn it, someone give some hope to the korean scene pleaseeeeeeeeee
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hmmm. Prime isn't in ESF anymore and Stars are in need of some players.
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Soulkey will keep the team strong! ^^
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On October 02 2013 04:40 Advantageous wrote:
Goddamn it Woongjin... I hope this doesnt turn into a disband... we need these teams to stay put until Legacy of the Void comes out to fix the game...
Last year we were saying the same thing.. with HoTS
dont get your hopes up 
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I have sources that Flash is gonna retire either the end of this year or early next year
On October 02 2013 01:19 Thieving Magpie wrote:People who know my post history will know that this is out of character, but... + Show Spoiler +What the ever living fuck balls dickwad! Fuck you Blizz, fuck you and your inability to grasp that winrates mean jack fucking shit! Winrates are just that--winrates! No one whined when Savior had an almost 90% winrate against Terran! No one batted an eyelash when nada, midas, oov had an 80% winrate against Zerg; audience participation boomed! Imbalance is something that brings audiences in! Do you think Idra was famous for good play or for whining about balance? FUCK YES MAKE THE GAME IMBALANCED! We WANT the game to be imbalanced. We want to have to make maps that forces strategies instead of preserving them, we want to be forced to cheese or die, we want to see someone figure out a way to stop said cheese, we want macro games to birth out of a world where cheese happens 90% of the time. BECAUSE ONLY THEN ARE MACRO GAMES IMPRESSIVE! Outside of this post I will still remain objective and show the pros and fucking cons of everything you implement, everything you have implemented, and everything you will implement--but FUCK! FUCKITY FUCK-FUCK YOU FUCKING FUCKS! Blizzard! Stop being so... EA! People please kindly ignore the spoilered text. User was temp banned for this post.
this guy doesn't deserve to be temp banned. YOU TL mods are nazis
if you mods ban me now, you're proving my point
User was temp banned for this post.
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On October 02 2013 09:21 BlackGosu wrote:I have sources that Flash is gonna retire either the end of this year or early next year Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 01:19 Thieving Magpie wrote:People who know my post history will know that this is out of character, but... + Show Spoiler +What the ever living fuck balls dickwad! Fuck you Blizz, fuck you and your inability to grasp that winrates mean jack fucking shit! Winrates are just that--winrates! No one whined when Savior had an almost 90% winrate against Terran! No one batted an eyelash when nada, midas, oov had an 80% winrate against Zerg; audience participation boomed! Imbalance is something that brings audiences in! Do you think Idra was famous for good play or for whining about balance? FUCK YES MAKE THE GAME IMBALANCED! We WANT the game to be imbalanced. We want to have to make maps that forces strategies instead of preserving them, we want to be forced to cheese or die, we want to see someone figure out a way to stop said cheese, we want macro games to birth out of a world where cheese happens 90% of the time. BECAUSE ONLY THEN ARE MACRO GAMES IMPRESSIVE! Outside of this post I will still remain objective and show the pros and fucking cons of everything you implement, everything you have implemented, and everything you will implement--but FUCK! FUCKITY FUCK-FUCK YOU FUCKING FUCKS! Blizzard! Stop being so... EA! People please kindly ignore the spoilered text. User was temp banned for this post. this guy doesn't deserve to be temp banned. YOU TL mods are nazis if you mods ban me now, you're proving my point
Read the Ten Commandments, there are rules in this site and they wil be upheld. Our signing up for accounts on TL implies our agreement to the rules.
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On October 02 2013 06:43 PinkTaricOnly wrote:
Soul, Khan, Jin Air, now WS. who will be the next KeSPA team to have a roster overhaul? My guess is KT Rolster.
The days of extremely large teams are over. It takes too many resources to sustain, and there's just not enough profit in Korean SC2 right now. My guess is also that Startale, MVP, IM will have a few player cuts soon.
One positive thing that may result from this is that all these Koreans who want to continue their professional player career, will have to join a foreign team, a Chinese team, or a less competitive Korean team. I think that the mass concentration of talent Starcraft being mostly in Korea, has affected the popularity of Starcraft as an e-sport. The talent finally dispersing to other regions will definitely be positive in the long haul, but right now there are still growing pains.
Good luck to all the ex-WS players, especially those joining new teams, or making it into the Challenger series!
Or playing BW again, cause that's the general trend of SC2 retirees.
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Germany25657 Posts
On October 02 2013 09:21 BlackGosu wrote:I have sources that Flash is gonna retire either the end of this year or early next year Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 01:19 Thieving Magpie wrote:People who know my post history will know that this is out of character, but... + Show Spoiler +What the ever living fuck balls dickwad! Fuck you Blizz, fuck you and your inability to grasp that winrates mean jack fucking shit! Winrates are just that--winrates! No one whined when Savior had an almost 90% winrate against Terran! No one batted an eyelash when nada, midas, oov had an 80% winrate against Zerg; audience participation boomed! Imbalance is something that brings audiences in! Do you think Idra was famous for good play or for whining about balance? FUCK YES MAKE THE GAME IMBALANCED! We WANT the game to be imbalanced. We want to have to make maps that forces strategies instead of preserving them, we want to be forced to cheese or die, we want to see someone figure out a way to stop said cheese, we want macro games to birth out of a world where cheese happens 90% of the time. BECAUSE ONLY THEN ARE MACRO GAMES IMPRESSIVE! Outside of this post I will still remain objective and show the pros and fucking cons of everything you implement, everything you have implemented, and everything you will implement--but FUCK! FUCKITY FUCK-FUCK YOU FUCKING FUCKS! Blizzard! Stop being so... EA! People please kindly ignore the spoilered text. User was temp banned for this post. this guy doesn't deserve to be temp banned. YOU TL mods are nazis if you mods ban me now, you're proving my point User was temp banned for this post.
Please post your sources. Oh wait, you can't. Maybe in 2 weeks.
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Game balance discussion apart, the problems in korea come as many said (like Khaldor stated in one of his video) that sc2 is not as popular as sc1 mostly because blizzard neglected to respect the game model koreans like which is Free to play. Sc1 was not really free to play, but cracked and Free to play in PC bangs with low fees to pay to the PC bang. So when sc2 came out totally out of korean game model, then it decayed in profit toward LoL, WoT, etc etc.
In the other hands, sc2 had much more success than sc1 in the rest of the world even China.
So who can judge what happen next, sc2 failing in korea therefor we might slowly lose the Blizz RTS mecca pulling in his descent everyone or sc2 will relocate more to Euro/AM/China and stay alive or even stronger (Cuz protoss add-on is still to be released, don't forget )
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United States97276 Posts
On October 02 2013 09:46 KadaverBB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 09:21 BlackGosu wrote:I have sources that Flash is gonna retire either the end of this year or early next year On October 02 2013 01:19 Thieving Magpie wrote:People who know my post history will know that this is out of character, but... + Show Spoiler +What the ever living fuck balls dickwad! Fuck you Blizz, fuck you and your inability to grasp that winrates mean jack fucking shit! Winrates are just that--winrates! No one whined when Savior had an almost 90% winrate against Terran! No one batted an eyelash when nada, midas, oov had an 80% winrate against Zerg; audience participation boomed! Imbalance is something that brings audiences in! Do you think Idra was famous for good play or for whining about balance? FUCK YES MAKE THE GAME IMBALANCED! We WANT the game to be imbalanced. We want to have to make maps that forces strategies instead of preserving them, we want to be forced to cheese or die, we want to see someone figure out a way to stop said cheese, we want macro games to birth out of a world where cheese happens 90% of the time. BECAUSE ONLY THEN ARE MACRO GAMES IMPRESSIVE! Outside of this post I will still remain objective and show the pros and fucking cons of everything you implement, everything you have implemented, and everything you will implement--but FUCK! FUCKITY FUCK-FUCK YOU FUCKING FUCKS! Blizzard! Stop being so... EA! People please kindly ignore the spoilered text. User was temp banned for this post. this guy doesn't deserve to be temp banned. YOU TL mods are nazis if you mods ban me now, you're proving my point User was temp banned for this post. Please post your sources. Oh wait, you can't. Maybe in 2 weeks.
wow bm. Mods are so mean
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Sigh... Sadness...
PLEASE PICK UP ZERO SKT!!!!!!
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STX and WJS has their writing on the walls for a while now with both filing for bankrupcy (Their main sponsors).
The only things you can take from this is
a) They dont see keeping the team as an absolute necessity given their status
b) The companies were already planning on cutting the team but just delaying it because of the SPL that was going on at that time.
You guys are overreacting.
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