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Earawen
Profile Joined February 2011
France51 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 09:57:03
October 02 2013 09:56 GMT
#101
I'm gonna cry in the corner listening to "The Doors-The End" for a bit...
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
October 02 2013 13:00 GMT
#102
At this stage with all this happening I'm starting to doubt there'll even be another SC2 Proleague T_T
ErrantKnight
Profile Joined November 2012
Switzerland186 Posts
October 02 2013 13:15 GMT
#103
Maybe they do some sort of EG/Woogjin association to participate in SPL or some shit (I would say with Prime but Prime has no money, they are searching for sponsors as well)
"Quantity is quality by itself"
j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
October 03 2013 18:49 GMT
#104
so as i moved to england i wasn't able to follow sc2 for ~2months and now i read "sc2 is dead" in almost every thread... wtf happened
♞ rest in peace Madiba ♞
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
October 03 2013 22:01 GMT
#105
not disbanding just like STX wasn't after winning Proleague
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
October 03 2013 23:10 GMT
#106
On October 04 2013 03:49 j1nzo wrote:
so as i moved to england i wasn't able to follow sc2 for ~2months and now i read "sc2 is dead" in almost every thread... wtf happened

Not much, people got spooked by announcements that were in the works for months.
dreaming of a sunny day
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 03 2013 23:30 GMT
#107
On October 04 2013 08:10 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 03:49 j1nzo wrote:
so as i moved to england i wasn't able to follow sc2 for ~2months and now i read "sc2 is dead" in almost every thread... wtf happened

Not much, people got spooked by announcements that were in the works for months.


They were spooked because there is doubts about the game.

I remember when Hero won dreamhack with tears streaming down his face and I was filled with so much hope about the future of this sport. But now? Taeja's clap is the kind of fire in our bellies

I just feel so, drained. Its hard to be hopeful right now, its just so hard.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
October 03 2013 23:39 GMT
#108
On October 02 2013 22:00 Khai wrote:
At this stage with all this happening I'm starting to doubt there'll even be another SC2 Proleague T_T


Proleague has been confirmed to be starting in late november. If it follows the pattern of the last few, we're sure to have top level team league action for another 6-8 months or so.
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
ikon42
Profile Joined May 2012
United States22 Posts
October 04 2013 14:45 GMT
#109
On October 02 2013 18:01 MikeMM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 14:53 braller wrote:
On October 02 2013 14:22 Cubanboy96 wrote:
What a coincidence that every Kespa team with a Lol team is not disbanding Woongjin and STX didnt have a Lol team that is what sponsors are interested in because of the greater exposure and popularity of Lol in Korea.I hope that Kespa and eSF get together and merge their respective teamleagues that is what is needed, they must unite so that sc2 can triumph in Korea.


Yes, not having a LoL team is why STX Pan Ocean went bankrupt. Definitely.

LG dumped IM team.
At least MVP was able to sell its LOL team.
But no one was interested in their sc2 team.

The same goes for Woongjin and STX not any new sponsor is intersted in sc2.


IM has 2 LoL teams, so I'm not really sure what you're trying to get at. Also Jin Air sponsored 2 LoL teams and Team8, they could have easily sponsored the LoL teams only.

MVP didn't sell their SC2 team to Samsung because.....they already have an SC2 team. Also where was it announced that they even wanted to sell their SC2 team?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 15:06:19
October 04 2013 15:05 GMT
#110
On October 04 2013 23:45 ikon42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 18:01 MikeMM wrote:
On October 02 2013 14:53 braller wrote:
On October 02 2013 14:22 Cubanboy96 wrote:
What a coincidence that every Kespa team with a Lol team is not disbanding Woongjin and STX didnt have a Lol team that is what sponsors are interested in because of the greater exposure and popularity of Lol in Korea.I hope that Kespa and eSF get together and merge their respective teamleagues that is what is needed, they must unite so that sc2 can triumph in Korea.


Yes, not having a LoL team is why STX Pan Ocean went bankrupt. Definitely.

LG dumped IM team.
At least MVP was able to sell its LOL team.
But no one was interested in their sc2 team.

The same goes for Woongjin and STX not any new sponsor is intersted in sc2.


IM has 2 LoL teams, so I'm not really sure what you're trying to get at. Also Jin Air sponsored 2 LoL teams and Team8, they could have easily sponsored the LoL teams only.

MVP didn't sell their SC2 team to Samsung because.....they already have an SC2 team. Also where was it announced that they even wanted to sell their SC2 team?

Yeah, using IM as an example of teams not interested in sc2 is rather bad idea. Also, did not ex-MVP.LOL fail at LoL Worlds (not watching LoL, just remember something like that mentioned in one of 'sc2dedgaem' discussions here)? MVP may as well have sniffed out something and sold the cake while it was hot.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
October 04 2013 15:27 GMT
#111
On October 04 2013 08:30 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:10 packrat386 wrote:
On October 04 2013 03:49 j1nzo wrote:
so as i moved to england i wasn't able to follow sc2 for ~2months and now i read "sc2 is dead" in almost every thread... wtf happened

Not much, people got spooked by announcements that were in the works for months.


They were spooked because there is doubts about the game.

I remember when Hero won dreamhack with tears streaming down his face and I was filled with so much hope about the future of this sport. But now? Taeja's clap is the kind of fire in our bellies

I just feel so, drained. Its hard to be hopeful right now, its just so hard.

Honestly, nothing has changed besides the fact that there is another titan on the block. When the time came for the SC2 community to stay strong and be hopeful, everyone did what they were doing before. Inane whining, absurd amounts of crying about the game and blizzard, and the like. When SC2 was the only game on the block, we could get away with that, but with other games, the community can't just get away with that. Blizzard fucked up with the WCS system. I was hopeful for it, but they made a mess of it. I'm not gonna blame the community for this, but I will say that everyone constantly saying that SC2 is dying is about as useful as telling a baby that it's going to die literally every day of it's life; the statement is true, but so utterly useless and avoidable if one were to look at it's growth.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
October 04 2013 15:28 GMT
#112
On October 04 2013 03:49 j1nzo wrote:
so as i moved to england i wasn't able to follow sc2 for ~2months and now i read "sc2 is dead" in almost every thread... wtf happened


just people enjoying to jump on the bandwagon. Everything is fine, starcraft 2 will not dissappear, just a lot of behind the scenes stuff finally coming out, though there is still a lot of positive behind the scene stuff not out. Everyone should just chill out. There are a lot of community who pray for their game to ever be as big as we are atm. Just because there are bigger games does not mean starcraft will die. Esports isn't some wierd black/white world where you are either number 1 or dead.
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 16:34:42
October 04 2013 16:30 GMT
#113


I think they'll wrap up gstl and force a merger for proleague. It's just not viable to keep the shrinking sc2 scene split in two. Maybe they'll do proleague joint effort by ogn and Gom. Air one day in the Gom studio, air in the ogn studios the next.

On October 05 2013 00:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 23:45 ikon42 wrote:
On October 02 2013 18:01 MikeMM wrote:
On October 02 2013 14:53 braller wrote:
On October 02 2013 14:22 Cubanboy96 wrote:
What a coincidence that every Kespa team with a Lol team is not disbanding Woongjin and STX didnt have a Lol team that is what sponsors are interested in because of the greater exposure and popularity of Lol in Korea.I hope that Kespa and eSF get together and merge their respective teamleagues that is what is needed, they must unite so that sc2 can triumph in Korea.


Yes, not having a LoL team is why STX Pan Ocean went bankrupt. Definitely.

LG dumped IM team.
At least MVP was able to sell its LOL team.
But no one was interested in their sc2 team.

The same goes for Woongjin and STX not any new sponsor is intersted in sc2.


IM has 2 LoL teams, so I'm not really sure what you're trying to get at. Also Jin Air sponsored 2 LoL teams and Team8, they could have easily sponsored the LoL teams only.

MVP didn't sell their SC2 team to Samsung because.....they already have an SC2 team. Also where was it announced that they even wanted to sell their SC2 team?

Yeah, using IM as an example of teams not interested in sc2 is rather bad idea. Also, did not ex-MVP.LOL fail at LoL Worlds (not watching LoL, just remember something like that mentioned in one of 'sc2dedgaem' discussions here)? MVP may as well have sniffed out something and sold the cake while it was hot.


They failed mainly because Samsung forced a roster change before the finals. They made one of their subs play in every game and his performance was absolutely mediocre.
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