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MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
March 13 2005 03:09 GMT
#1
I was curious what you guys think about getting armor against terran instead of attack. Particularly if your opening with alot of speed zealots and not many shuttles since the zealots could take more damage charging into the tanks. What exactly would the statistics be on this aswell as damage recieved to other units.

What about attack first then armor?

Can anyone supply me with some stats and thoughts on this?

thx
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pheered.user
Profile Joined March 2003
United States2603 Posts
March 13 2005 03:15 GMT
#2
I always upgrade armor first incause terran doesent upgrade weapons so that my probes can withstand 3 hits from a vulture other than that I dont know alot about how much upgrades help in pvt.
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
March 13 2005 03:21 GMT
#3
Terran does 70, 125, 20, 30 damage, adding +1 armor wont change much i guess...
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sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
March 13 2005 03:29 GMT
#4
On March 13 2005 12:21 BCloud wrote:
Terran does 70, 125, 20, 30 damage, adding +1 armor wont change much i guess...

+1 armor is good "prevention" from vulture raids.You need 3 hits to kill a probe instead of 2 w/o +1 armor.As was mentioned above
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pheered.user
Profile Joined March 2003
United States2603 Posts
March 13 2005 03:31 GMT
#5
Actually, I do know that if you dont have upgrades against 3/3 terran. Your units melt like butter.
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hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
March 13 2005 03:32 GMT
#6
They melt like butter anyway
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pheered.user
Profile Joined March 2003
United States2603 Posts
March 13 2005 03:35 GMT
#7
On March 13 2005 12:32 hasuwar wrote:
They melt like butter anyway

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XythOs
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
Germany520 Posts
March 13 2005 03:39 GMT
#8
When the natural got a geyser I upgrade out of 2 Forges. :p
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
March 13 2005 03:42 GMT
#9
Well I like grade so i always grade if I i do have a forge. And i go for armor first..
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 13 2005 04:01 GMT
#10
I like to grade attack first, because when you have +3 attack mines die instanly~!!! +_+ important +_+
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2015 Posts
March 13 2005 04:22 GMT
#11
On March 13 2005 13:01 FreeZEternal wrote:
I like to grade attack first, because when you have +3 attack mines die instanly~!!! +_+ important +_+


no this isn't important
important is to divide your zealots per tanks to minimize splash loses(tank&mine). If u divide correctly low spread mines will only help you because they'll explode at tanks.
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pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
March 13 2005 04:23 GMT
#12
On March 13 2005 13:01 FreeZEternal wrote:
I like to grade attack first, because when you have +3 attack mines die instanly~!!! +_+ important +_+


This does make a big difference.
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FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 13 2005 04:30 GMT
#13
Also if you +3 you need two less shot from goons to kill tanks.
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 13 2005 04:32 GMT
#14
On March 13 2005 13:22 LastWish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2005 13:01 FreeZEternal wrote:
I like to grade attack first, because when you have +3 attack mines die instanly~!!! +_+ important +_+


no this isn't important
important is to divide your zealots per tanks to minimize splash loses(tank&mine). If u divide correctly low spread mines will only help you because they'll explode at tanks.


You haven't played a push whore terran -.-;;
w)Gs(Zero-
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia270 Posts
March 13 2005 04:34 GMT
#15
On March 13 2005 12:21 BCloud wrote:
Terran does 70, 125, 20, 30 damage, adding +1 armor wont change much i guess...

that's right
KiLLme1st
Profile Joined December 2003
United States1824 Posts
March 13 2005 04:35 GMT
#16
FreeZEternal is Korean I think I will agree with him.
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LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2015 Posts
March 13 2005 04:55 GMT
#17
On March 13 2005 13:35 KiLLme1st wrote:
FreeZEternal is Korean I think I will agree with him.

a funny reaction for this... wtf does nationality have to do with it
And i tell you if u send zealots attack-move through mine field, your zealots will gather around the mine+kill it. This all will slow them down a lot and through this time all of your lots will take like super-splash from tanks.
Zealots are there in battlefield to run as fast as they can to reach tanks. Dragoons are the ones to kill mines mostly and finish off lonely,weak or wounded units.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
March 13 2005 05:18 GMT
#18
armor has one use only, that is for probes vs vultures
apart from that, it's pretty damn useless unless he's goliath heavy
=[

personally I always upgrade attack and never more than one forge pvt. terran benefits tons from upgrades but toss doesn't benefit much cept for carriers.
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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-13 05:20:34
March 13 2005 05:19 GMT
#19
I'm pretty damn sure Freeze is better than everyone who has posted in this thread [ including me because I've played him before ]

It's not like zeals won't get shot by vults when running in. A good push/Terran won't allow many zeals to get through a mine field.

Edit: Lmao drone you HAD to post 1 second before didn't you.
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 13 2005 06:30 GMT
#20
yeah carriers upgrade(attack) is so important in pvt +_+. carrier armor can be done later cuz your carriers are not supposed to die.
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