EPTIdra Banned for 90 Days - Page 69
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Hello, all! It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully. Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil. Thanks, Empyrean. Time stamp: 03:59 KST. | ||
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Grettin
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monkey5476
United States133 Posts
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bashalisk
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On May 08 2011 22:09 SimDawg wrote: In reality it is somewhere in between. But to say Idra is the only person at fault here is just having blinders on. tell me what TL did wrong? they are more easy on idra. this is a fact. idra crossed the line and got a tiny 2day ban. something you have to do to keep your forum ontrack and avoid evryone writing crap cause "idra did it too!". idra instead of taking it like evryone else would did a HUGE no go with rallying people against a TL mod. it mightve been a misunderstanding at first but then told em "fu whatever". behavior like this is just not acceptable at all and has to be punished . and no matter what he intended with that, the stupid sentence "with great power comes great responsibility" is very true here. idra is not stupid. he knows that this is a nogo and can easily get out of hand when he tells his hordes of fanboys something like that. at evry step TL followed its guidelines and did the correct thing to ensure stuff like that doesnt happen again which is important for the future of this forum or soon we have evry 500 viewer stream guy trying to do the same. i like idra. he acted stupid here and TL reacted. so he got a 90day ban. then he will post again and evrything is like it was before. no one to blame but him and no big deal at all. | ||
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Mycl
Australia1370 Posts
On May 08 2011 22:18 SimDawg wrote: Simply not true. Everyone here realizes all bans/warnings are open to interpretation. Sometimes people get banned for extremely trivial things and some people are warned for more serious ones. Chill is not an automaton, therefore he is open to influence. Responding to this, was Chill even the one who handed down the 90day ban? I followed the drama from the 2 day temp ban and Chill was fully aware of Idra's tweet. In the Idra stream thread he was even updating us on how many pm's he was getting. Didn't seem like he was going to escalate the matter any further. So posters here should stop jumping on the poor bloke  I haven't read through this entire thread because I would be here all night, so I apologize if this has already been discussed and answered. | ||
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Reasonable
Ukraine1432 Posts
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Mczeppo
Germany319 Posts
On May 08 2011 22:13 Hertingen wrote: tl-forum: east-germany style... But seriously, this will only backfire on tl as they alienate themselves from one of the most popular and interesting player in the world, albeit with an edgy personality. shame shame East germany style... What you're writing there is pretty ridiculous. You should rather be happy with the strict rules TL has. The amount of trolling and stupidity you find on other sites makes me sick. On TL you doesnt have to waste your time reading one rubbish post after the other. It's pretty funny. People don't even realize why the rules are so strict. It's to keep a high standard. | ||
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On May 08 2011 22:05 Mycl wrote: As far as I'm aware the definition of repeated is more than once so I'm not sure why you're scare quoting him as if he misused the word or implied something that wasn't entirely represented by the pictures. I'm also curious if he said anything else, though, but I find it especially pathetic to trash talk in the lobby. Ceremonies and celebrations are one thing but this kind of stuff is harmful to a professional image.I see 2 very short comments. Wheres the 'repeated' provocation you were talking about? I was already aware of those 2 and I'm curious as to what else was said. | ||
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KonohaFlash
Canada1590 Posts
What's the big deal? I mean how many times does IdrA actually post something useful besides little comments towards people he dislikes? I'm pretty sure IdrA couldn't care less and wanted to see how TL would react to his comments. | ||
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UBavarice
Sweden358 Posts
On the other hand, what I do not seem to fathom are the lack of actions towards cruncher. I believe Nazgul wrote in this thread that there weren't definite proof. Weren't there screenshots of the incident, or am I wrong? And also Chill, if you wouldn't be upset about a stream ghoster taking you out, that is mighty forgiving of you. Seeing as how it hurts yourself, your fans, and in a long-term perspective if stream ghosters are allowed to roam free: The community itself. | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On May 08 2011 22:05 Mycl wrote: I see 2 very short comments. Wheres the 'repeated' provocation you were talking about? I was already aware of those 2 and I'm curious as to what else was said. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/repeatedly Now, did I lie? Does it matter how long his comments were? I know I said "in-game", but just for reference, he said this in a pre-match interview: "Q: Your first round opponent is a relatively unknown player - Cruncher. What are your thoughts about him? I'm approaching the match as if it were a walkover. Q: Are you confident you can beat him? Do you expect him to do any risky strategies against you? Yes, he's going to 4 gate all-in both games unless he decides to be clever and make voidrays or DTs." EDIT: Just realized you're a different poster from the one who first replied to my initial post. Sorry for a bit of hostile tone. | ||
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act.hero
United States205 Posts
Im an IdrA fan. The ban is deserved. He's broken the rules more than anyone else. He's lucky he's not perma'd. I dare anyone in this thread to post the way IdrA does, see if you don't have to go through 20 proxies in a week. User was warned for bolding his whole post | ||
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.Enigma.
Sweden1461 Posts
On May 08 2011 21:52 ProGear wrote: I agree maybe he should be banned for a bit more than 2 days but not 90 f**king days seriously He got a 30 day ban back in february or so I think, and his behaviour hasn't changed since. It was a good thing of TL to up the punishment this time. | ||
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
On May 08 2011 22:25 UBavarice wrote: On the other hand, what I do not seem to fathom are the lack of actions towards cruncher. I believe Nazgul wrote in this thread that there weren't definite proof. Weren't there screenshots of the incident, or am I wrong? . The screenshots are inconclusive. In addition, Cruncher released the replay and it's an identical strategy to games he has played previously. The Zealots are acquired to pressure Zergs that take a quick third. If he was ghosting, he would've gotten Cannons instead. | ||
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Denis Lachance
Canada162 Posts
He didn't change at all after each of his temp bans. He kept posting the same sort of rhetoric he always does. 90 days though is longer than anything I've seen him ever get before. Maybe he'll get the message this time? I hope he doesn't stop streaming because of this... | ||
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Voidz
Spain51 Posts
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gibb
Sweden288 Posts
Remeber that TL would be nothing like what it is now if they didn't enforce the rules. | ||
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On May 08 2011 22:13 Hertingen wrote: tl-forum: east-germany style... But seriously, this will only backfire on tl as they alienate themselves from one of the most popular and interesting player in the world, albeit with an edgy personality. shame shame Maybe so, TL may experience a small dwindling in the number of visitors, but I for one wouldn't mind seeing teenager fanboys with hormonal problems and empty brains post somewhere else. This community used to be cool when it was BW only, nowadays the post quality here resembles a lot more websites like sherdog.com. | ||
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Legion101
Belgium9 Posts
Also I feel like the context is lost here. Idra was streaming with commentary as a reward towards his fans for the 20k viewers on SotG. Fans felt wronged in being taken away there prize and Idra cunningly directed that towards the TL staff. Agreed, Idra could have just streamed nonetheless but I personally wouldn't let a site profit from my viewers if I am on bad footing with that site at the time. Again I don't understand why TL would let his stream up? It is to not infuriate the masses even more I guess or to keep a back door open: "look he can still stream if he wants, direct your anger towards him". I feel like TL is trying to have the cake and eat it. Constructing a situation where all the fault can be directed towards Idra. Again I don't agree with Idra either but I feel there is an inconsistency in the way TL handled this. Either ban everything including the stream or don't ban at all. | ||
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" in the third game after Idra repeatedly provoked him in the game lobby after each game by saying things like "Boy it must suck when skill matters".
