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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 03 2010 22:13 GMT
#641
Attention everyone:

Fuck rowing.

7 rounds of 1 minute row, 1 minute rest, total distance rowed ~2200m

I realize it's not exactly an amazing feat, but it was the first time I've ever rowed, and CHRIST ALMIGHTY I was wrecked afterward.

Fuck rowing.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 03 2010 22:14 GMT
#642
erg?
please be sure you have good form when rowing X_X
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 03 2010 22:16 GMT
#643
On April 04 2010 00:38 Newguy wrote:
thedeadhaji you did a 1 hour run? dang thats really far, isn't it, like 6-10 miles. Nice job, will join this thread once school ends, but I'm too lazy right now :D


Thanks
Though the run was only like 6-7 miles (9.9km lol) since I was aiming for "1 hour" rather than average speed
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 03 2010 22:19 GMT
#644
On April 04 2010 07:14 thedeadhaji wrote:
erg?
please be sure you have good form when rowing X_X


yeah, on an erg.

to be honest, i doubt my form was perfect. like i said, i'd never rowed before. one of my friends here at college is a national level rower, but he's not around to spot my form right now (easter break).

any pointers? the workout was amazing, i'd definitely try it again.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 03 2010 22:49 GMT
#645
1) slow recovery. If you let go of the seat when not sitting on it, you'll notice it returns to the front naturally. You should be using that force + your take away and body rock forward for the momentum used to move forward. Don't pull yourself with your legs.

2) Straight back and tightened core throughout.
make sure you dont bend your upper back when at the catch (when you're at the very front of machine)

3) dont lean back too far at finish (exact angle I'm not too sure about but check out a rowing vid on youtube I guess)

4) The burn should be in your legs. The arms and core simply complete the motion initiated by the legs, and are supplementary. If your arms start to kill you, your form is bad (mine usually wasnt too good either TT) Rowing is a full body exercise for sure, but the protagonist is definitely the legs.

5) Acceleration driven by legs should be a smooth build up in pressure. No jerky movements (as with any form of lifting). the finish should be controlled and shouldnt send you flying off the seat. A good drill to do is to try making strokes with your feet unfastened to the foot plates. You'll be amazed at how goddamn hard this is lol.


Btw an erg warm up is something like

1 minute arms only
1 minute arms and body
1 minute of 1/2 stroke (knees bent a little bit)
1 minute of 3/4 stroke (knees bent like 90degrees)
1 minute of full stroke rating 18
1 minute of full stroke rating 20
1 minute of full stroke rating 22
1 minute of full stroke rating 20
1 minute of full stroke rating 18
1 minute of 3/4 stroke (knees bent like 90degrees)
1 minute of 1/2 stroke (knees bent a little bit)
1 minute arms and body
1 minute arms only
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 03 2010 22:58 GMT
#646
...haji, you are amazing.

The burn was deeefinitely concentrated in my legs, so I don't think that was much of a concern. Granted, my forearms started to hurt from the grip aspect, I'd assume this is normal? Especially for someone starting out?

I'm pretty sure I was pulling with my legs. Woops! I'll avoid that next time :p I was also probably bending my back at the catch, I'll watch for that as well.

Thanks a ton

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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-04 01:46:58
April 03 2010 23:11 GMT
#647
there's no need to be holding the grip that hard~
In fact you can just "hang on" to it with your fingers and be totally fine. In fact, I imagine relaxing your hands/arms will allow you to concentrate on a solid, balanced core and feeling the legs work underneath you.

Also, your shoulders shouldn't be raised up in their socket when you're pulling the stroke. In fact, a conscious effort could be made to keep them down, engaging your lats properly~

The main thing, as with anything exercise related, is to be in full control of your body motions and don't allow inertia/momentum to move things (oh, other than your recovery! ). Speaking of recovery, it's the part of rowing where you get to rest! And you're supposed to give your legs a short break, so why not use it


This video seems solid.

edit: I'm nowhere near an expert on rowing and much closer to being a novice than otherwise, but hopefully I can at least point you in the right direction ~
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
April 04 2010 01:29 GMT
#648
On April 03 2010 18:39 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2010 21:55 Energies wrote:
lol, I didn't reply to that post for this very reason, I figured he was trolling.

I just went on my first run in 5 months, 8kms(5miles). The last 2-3km I was going over some stuff in my head and the run felt like an outer body experience where my body was just gliding along the footpath. I sprinted the last 200 metres and collapsed on my lawn.


Today I was inspired from reading this, and decided to do my first 1 hour run... ever lololol.
Pulled it off without much problem (though I admit the pace was rather pedestrian), albeit it was on a treadmill so it's not a real "run" at all X_X.

Feeling pretty pumped that I managed to pull it off
(a year ago, I doubt I could run 20 minutes lol)

An internet site got me in shape ffs!


Kudos!

I feel pretty pumped after achieving a new weight in a lift or overall after a workout. But it doesn't match the high of completing a long cardio session.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-04 09:20:02
April 04 2010 09:19 GMT
#649
Hey eshlow, if I am not getting enough sun (As it's autumn with winter approaching). Should I be taking say 5000ui of VitD indefinitely?

I'm currently taking 5000ui a day along with zinc, magnesium and fish oil. It just feels like I am overdoing the VitD at this rate.

Edit: Also, is there any other essential supplements I'm missing?
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-04 12:11:09
April 04 2010 12:10 GMT
#650
On April 04 2010 18:19 Energies wrote:
Hey eshlow, if I am not getting enough sun (As it's autumn with winter approaching). Should I be taking say 5000ui of VitD indefinitely?

I'm currently taking 5000ui a day along with zinc, magnesium and fish oil. It just feels like I am overdoing the VitD at this rate.

Edit: Also, is there any other essential supplements I'm missing?


Calcium.. maybe vitamin K2.

D+fish oil+ca/mg/zn are really only things I would recommend for everyone. K2 if you have problems with ca precipitation.

I would base it on how you feel. There's descriptions of D overdose you can find commonly on the web. If you're feeling great then I don't see a reason to stop as your body will tell you when something is wrong.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
April 05 2010 22:58 GMT
#651
Deadlifted 5x225 5x315 5x335 5x365 and 3x405

Probably too much volume but i was just feeling really good. Any advice so my back doesnt absolutely murder me tomorrow?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 06 2010 01:06 GMT
#652
On April 06 2010 07:58 decafchicken wrote:
Deadlifted 5x225 5x315 5x335 5x365 and 3x405

Probably too much volume but i was just feeling really good. Any advice so my back doesnt absolutely murder me tomorrow?


Nah you should be OK.

If you really wanted get a back massage..
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 06 2010 02:15 GMT
#653
eshlow to get a manna am I gonna have to do tons and tons of hamstring stretches
cuz i have tight hamstrings and i hate stretching them lol

and does it not interfere with training planche doesn't it use a bunch of the same muscles?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 06 2010 03:53 GMT
#654
On April 06 2010 11:15 travis wrote:
eshlow to get a manna am I gonna have to do tons and tons of hamstring stretches
cuz i have tight hamstrings and i hate stretching them lol

and does it not interfere with training planche doesn't it use a bunch of the same muscles?


Manna does not interfere with strict planche work.

Umm, you'll likely need good shoulder mobility and good pike compression which requires flexible hamstrings. German hangs are good for the shoulders... hamstrings are a pain in the butt to stretch for some guys but worth if you're tight. If they're too tight you should see noticable improvement in your performance as you get looser.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 06 2010 04:06 GMT
#655
are german hangs as easy to do as they look or is it possible i will screw that up and hurt myself
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 06 2010 23:50 GMT
#656
On April 06 2010 13:06 travis wrote:
are german hangs as easy to do as they look or is it possible i will screw that up and hurt myself


Basically shoulder stretching.

If you're worried I would put the rings at chest height and then go over and let yourself sink down. If it hurts too much you can lessen the pressure by using your feet to push up some. As you get used to the deep stretch you will be able to use your feet less and less.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 07 2010 00:05 GMT
#657
Anyone here actually gone through a one-arm pullup progression successfully? I've been working one them for fucking forever and I'm really close, just having a hard time with the last little bit. It would be great to hear someones "how I did it" story.


That is unless you are one of those 100lb people who just found out they could do them one day. Fuck you lol.
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Bebop07
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
April 07 2010 11:36 GMT
#658
Hey everyone. I'm starting to eat a lot more and work out, and I'm really used to eating small meals and not a lot of protein. And by small meals I mean..really not even meals, just snacking. But now that I'm eating big, full meals I'm like..passing out/crashing afterwards for a good 10-30 minutes. Just wondering if this is normal or will go away..isnt much fun.
bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
April 07 2010 13:59 GMT
#659
Maybe you're not getting enough sleep, which is equally important to your fitness as anything else.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 07 2010 16:48 GMT
#660
On April 07 2010 08:50 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 13:06 travis wrote:
are german hangs as easy to do as they look or is it possible i will screw that up and hurt myself


Basically shoulder stretching.

If you're worried I would put the rings at chest height and then go over and let yourself sink down. If it hurts too much you can lessen the pressure by using your feet to push up some. As you get used to the deep stretch you will be able to use your feet less and less.


well I am using a bar and i can't change it's height but i put somethin o nthe ground i could move my feet onto and it was a good idea lol I think I woulda had to let go and prolly fell and hurt myself if I hadn't


anyways eshlow i wanna ask u about my current routine here it is:

warmup (some dynamic stretching, pushups, oblique crunches, hindu squats - like to get nice and hot)

then

60s of FL work
then some 1arm chin work

then 60s of planche work
then a pressing exercizes (this time it was a dips variant)

then I did german hang x2 and some bridging
then I worked on manna, i wanted to do 60s of work, but I only did a middle split hold for 5-10 sec x3, is that good enough?


then I did 2 10sec pike compressions, and I gotta say - those are a bitch
and yet I still hate stretching my hamstrings the most out of them


anyways is that well programmed or is there a better way for me to do this?


oh yeah and one other question - for working on manna I can't even put my hands backwards at all, the farthest I can turn them while they are behind my legs is perpindicular to the direction my legs are pointing

how should I go about developing that type of wrist flexibility
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