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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 03 2014 14:28 GMT
#61
On December 03 2014 23:20 Erasme wrote:
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On December 03 2014 06:28 Steveling wrote:
On December 03 2014 04:31 TheEmulator wrote:
On December 03 2014 04:28 Steveling wrote:
My goal is to reach 4k.

Weren't you like 4.2k? I'm guessing you dropped a bit then?


I keep dropping after I stopped playing to win.
Sad lyfe, my post was sarcastic though, my actual skill is like 6k.

no

You'll never convince him otherwise. He is a man that defines his own reality.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
December 03 2014 15:06 GMT
#62
On December 03 2014 13:51 Jinxed wrote:
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On December 03 2014 13:33 ASoo wrote:
On December 03 2014 01:22 Plansix wrote:
Don't be afraid to talk about the game or have an opinion. Most of the really good players here don't have anything to prove, so they won't talk down to you. They might just point out you are wrong.

This seems like a pretty rosy view of the posting culture here. This thread is full of good players saying "I want to improve my MMR so I won't have to put up with trash players who are worse than me." The QQ thread is full of "Oh my god I played in a game with a guy who was worse than me, and he was SO BAD." Basically this whole site* is people posting about how obnoxious it is that they have to play with people who are worse at Dota than they are.

I think it's not unreasonable to feel talked-down-to if you hang out here and aren't very good at Dota.

*("this whole site" may be slight hyperbole)

I'd argue that yours is a pretty cynical way of viewing the community. QQ thread is people venting. Everyone needs to blow off steam somewhere, and that thread should never be considered anything more than that. Overall though, unless you're actively trying to argue something that is completely wrong with someone who is objectively better and has considerably more knowledge, all ideas are welcome. And if you are wrong, and someone has tried this, usually they are willing to discuss why it is the way it is with you. Provided of course you're willing to actually discuss it that is.

For all the answers in this thread that have been 'I want to play with better people' I'd say just as many are 'I'd like to reach my personal peak' as well.


I also think there's a difference between playing with players that don't know their heroes and talking about those heroes.

It's aggravating to play with people that didn't even bother to look at a guide..or don't know how to stack and pull. However, it's different when you're discussing an item build.

Sometimes it's easy to feel talked down to, but you need to keep it in perspective. There are a lot of DOTA veterans on this website. While it might feel like you're being talked down to, keep in mind that you probably feel that way bc you're on the internet (no voice inflection) and that the people that are telling you certain things about the game are saying that bc they have way more experience than you. As you browse the site you'll know whose points of view you align with and who you can trust when they tell you that you're wrong.

TL;DR: stick around and have a conversation with someone and you'll stop feeling talked down to.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
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