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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
November 29 2014 17:44 GMT
#21
Because my life is pathetic and sad and isn't going anywhere and dota is the only sense of accomplishment I get anymore so I can only judge myself from this semi meaningless internet point value system.
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Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
November 29 2014 18:04 GMT
#22
To feel superior to others, why else do you strive for anything?
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 30 2014 20:19 GMT
#23
On November 29 2014 19:18 Erasme wrote:
i don't
higher mmr means ill need to play at 100% everygame and its really tiring


I think getting to a range that doesn't having me rage as much but not as high as indicated by the above, and I'll be content playing this game. Face facts, I don't have the time to put in getting to top 200, etc, respect to those who are, but for me this is a game, keep challenging myself but just at the worst at a level that everyone reasonably knows what they are doing with basic comms down.
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Acetone
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States200 Posts
November 30 2014 22:06 GMT
#24
On November 29 2014 19:18 Erasme wrote:
higher mmr means ill need to play at 100% everygame and its really tiring

This is why I usually play unranked.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
November 30 2014 23:27 GMT
#25
it's a good way of measuring my skill (if not the only consistent way of measuring skill)
so I play a lot to get better, and the only way to justify that I actually got better is to have a higher mmr
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28085 Posts
December 01 2014 03:32 GMT
#26
I like getting better at the things I do, and while MMR might not be the #1 measure of skill it's one of the few I have available to me to know i am getting better.
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
December 01 2014 04:17 GMT
#27
On December 01 2014 12:32 TheEmulator wrote:
I like getting better at the things I do, and while MMR might not be the #1 measure of skill it's one of the few I have available to me to know i am getting better.


I like that answer.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
December 01 2014 07:26 GMT
#28
On November 30 2014 02:44 Comeh wrote:
Because my life is pathetic and sad and isn't going anywhere and dota is the only sense of accomplishment I get anymore so I can only judge myself from this semi meaningless internet point value system.

:c
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
December 01 2014 10:01 GMT
#29
On December 01 2014 16:26 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 02:44 Comeh wrote:
Because my life is pathetic and sad and isn't going anywhere and dota is the only sense of accomplishment I get anymore so I can only judge myself from this semi meaningless internet point value system.

:c

It's comeh, he's just trolling, don't worry.
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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 11:04:18
December 01 2014 11:00 GMT
#30
Honestly people dont seem very interested in raising MMR overall to me. I've always thought its kind of a misconception that people care for their MMR much. Most people will pick/play/behave in any way they want over playing to win. I'm pretty sure most people could raise their MMR with a few hundreds if they really wanted just by adapting a playstyle of always playing for the team. Picking, playing, communicating, encouraging, helping, etc for the teams best. But extremely few do.

I mean I know myself I'll sometimes just turn on autopilot and just run around killing jungle camps or something else pointless if the game/my team makes me lose interest. I'm hardly the worst offender in that regard (I dont insult or intentionally feed ever) but denying that I'm not always playing my best, or sometimes even close to my best, would be to lie to myself. I think that goes for just about all people reading this.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
December 01 2014 15:14 GMT
#31
On December 01 2014 19:01 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 16:26 Zealos wrote:
On November 30 2014 02:44 Comeh wrote:
Because my life is pathetic and sad and isn't going anywhere and dota is the only sense of accomplishment I get anymore so I can only judge myself from this semi meaningless internet point value system.

:c

It's comeh, he's just trolling, don't worry.

Yes, please keep telling yourself that.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 01 2014 15:59 GMT
#32
I mostly play to get higher MMR just to see how I am improving. I know I will never have the time(or desire) to put in the necessary hours to get to 4K or higher. So I just trudge along to on my way to 3K and I will likely celebrate when I get there.

The main thing I want to be is a well rounded player that can do a lot of different things, which sometimes hurts my MMR when I try to break out a new hero. But I would rather be keep the variety up than spam ogre every game just to get a higher number.

Though there are days when I am like “fuck this shit, I am ganking all game and someone is going to win a lane or I am going to die trying”.
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
December 01 2014 19:59 GMT
#33
quality of games is better (in general) at higher mmr. same amount of whining and griefing but players have better mechanics
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 01 2014 20:18 GMT
#34
I believe the exact quote from Draskyl on the topic of MMR and game quality was "Everyone can farm and make plays, but when its to decision making, it doesn't matter what MMR you are in, everyone sucks." I mean, if you watch Fear or PPD's stream, you see some of the most dumpster level decisions ever.

But then you get PPD with a MoM/basher Treant, so it all levels out.
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Aixler
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands946 Posts
December 01 2014 21:15 GMT
#35
For me its because higher MMR gives better games.
Not every single game, but overall the games are noticeably better.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 01 2014 21:29 GMT
#36
wait aixler posts aside from cm tips???????????
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Varth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States426 Posts
December 01 2014 21:30 GMT
#37
For me its so that consistently my teammates know at least how the laning phase stuff such as lane freezing and harassing the offlaner goes so that I'm not driven batshit crazy by how they fail to realize how important that is
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
December 01 2014 21:47 GMT
#38
So I can learn faster and become better.
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 22:19:26
December 01 2014 22:02 GMT
#39
I want higher MMR because I want to play Real Dota.

When I was maining support I would do things like see that we had another big stun on the team, see the enemy team had a vulnerable mid, and buy smoke for a level one gank on mid. And no one would come with me. Or I would try to deward and there would be no fucking wards. Warn everyone that Axe is going to try to eat our safelane and no one will TP, we will lose the tower predictably, and people around the map will go "wtf safelane."

I once tried to get a mid-game smoke going and had someone tell me "this isn't TI."

In the trench, basic tactical maneuvers are TI-level play. People have no concept of how to minimize courier use. I've gotten my bottle at 1:30 and found the courier is all the way out at our safelane tower, after explicitly asking people not to use the courier before I got my bottle. Safelane people ferry side-shop shit to themselves. They mail themselves items one component at a time. If you tell your team that the enemy is probably roshing, they just fucking walk in regardless of our ability to fight it or even how many people are there. Folks yell at you for not being at a fight you had no chance of being at when they chose the fight. People think it's needy to ask for courier upgrades. Supports will continue to ward both runes at 40 minutes. Carries can't last hit. Most mids try to gank way too much and everyone not a mid thinks that is your primary function and you are failing if you aren't doing it, regardless of what hero you are playing or the strategic situation.

Folks pick double-stealth lineups (and then people will build Shadowblades). People play Necro as support. You have to explain what a "roaming support" is. No one knows how to tri-lane. Item builds are terrible. Farm allocation is a mysterious concept. I could go on, and on.

Yeah, there's a ton of bullshit at the top too. But in the trench the quality of Dota is frequently just bad. You actually have to adjust your mindset to the idea that your teammates are probably not going to do smart things. They're going to quietly turn around when you think they are coming your direction for a gank, after you've committed. When you say "let's rosh now," they're going to wait until the Rosh window is totally and obviously closed to enter the pit (at which point they will definitely do so, to tragic results). They're going to disengage from winnable fights at full health, blow disables before big ults come out, and waste your ult by acting ready to fight and bailing as soon as you pop it.

In the trench the frequency with which you can play Dota as a team game is so much less than in the higher tiers you want to climb just so you can get to good Dota, even if it's not consistent. Even if your teammates are sometimes totally fucking inexplicably bad for their MMR, even if the MMR disparities within a game multiply tenfold. Because occasionally, you get to play Real Dota.

[e] I forgot one of my very favorite examples of how trench dota is solo dota: Spirit Breakers who will regularly charge a hero near you, causing you to move in for a kill, and then wordlessly cancel their charge with nothing changed about the tactical situation except your dangerous forward movement. Then wonder why you tell them that's a bad thing they need to stop doing.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 23:31:24
December 01 2014 23:29 GMT
#40
On November 29 2014 11:11 the bear jew wrote:
So why do you want a higher MMR? For me, it's the chance to play the best and learn by getting my ass kicked.


pretty much this for me.

i am super SUPER competitive and i love the steep learning curve. so i naturally gravitated towards games like sc2 and dota..dota more so because of the team play element.

so i want to get better, which naturally follows an MMR increase.

EDIT: i do wanna touch on what FHDH said.. i am also sick of people not having a basic grasp of their heroes…like look up a fucking guide if you're gonna play a high impact role. if you make a minor mistake in judgement, whatever. but if you're picking a hero and are demonstrating you have literally no idea how to play your role, i have no patience for you.
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