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Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
September 19 2014 21:46 GMT
#201
I just missed kotl... Thats all.
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Imperfect1987
Profile Joined August 2010
United States558 Posts
September 19 2014 21:48 GMT
#202
Seeing as I can't find a post that even mentions Riki means he needs more love! I would like to see him get slight base stat buffs, slight move speed buff and slight scaling buff. I would also like to see his smoke radius scale a bit. Long live the sneaky goat!
The keyboard is mightier than the pen.
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 21:53:27
September 19 2014 21:52 GMT
#203
i wouldn't mind seeing 4 protect 1 come back and maybe even a stricter hero pool.

I love the anticipation of a 4 protect one. Can they make enough room? Will the carry be big enough? Can the other team deal with him?

Also i used to love the drafting before, someone picked a weird hero people would lose their minds. Now it feels like it's abit more "oh trilane tinker-necrophos-gyro thats weird i guess'
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
September 19 2014 21:54 GMT
#204
I just want some CM buff. They went like 15 patches in a row nerfing her starting int/mana and now nobody plays her but me
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 22:04:28
September 19 2014 22:04 GMT
#205
erase this shitty tinker from the game (and nerf Doom)
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TechSc2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands554 Posts
September 19 2014 22:54 GMT
#206
I think too many people want buffs on hero's that were strong last meta, but due to other hero's buffs not in favour anymore.

For example AM is still a really good ( if not the best ) 4 protect 1 carry, and nothing has changed in that regard. I think mostly that the OP hero's need nerfs, and some bottom of the pool hero's need buffs. But don't give middle of the pack hero's a buff, and nerf top of the pack hero's. That would be just another meta till the next patch to do it all over?

I really think this is also the reason why 6.82 hasn't come out yet, because Icefrog is more critical in what to change,m because alot of hero's are perfect as they are and will get picked more when the OP hero's receive nerfs
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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
September 19 2014 23:41 GMT
#207
Make it so rearm doesn't reset blink dagger damage timer
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 19 2014 23:48 GMT
#208
On September 20 2014 08:41 Chewbacca. wrote:
Make it so rearm doesn't reset blink dagger damage timer

or just remove the hero from the game
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
September 19 2014 23:48 GMT
#209
On September 20 2014 08:41 Chewbacca. wrote:
Make it so rearm doesn't reset blink dagger damage timer

Honestly, I don't see why people think this would make the hero less bullshit.

The situation where this gets a kill is probably like, 2% of tinker's kills / not dying. Ghost scepter is a bigger issue IMO
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 19 2014 23:49 GMT
#210
i actually think banning the hero from buying blink so he has to get forcestaff would be hilarious
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Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
September 20 2014 00:02 GMT
#211
On September 20 2014 06:54 Chewbacca. wrote:
I just want some CM buff. They went like 15 patches in a row nerfing her starting int/mana and now nobody plays her but me


I play her and i own <3
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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 00:36:03
September 20 2014 00:20 GMT
#212
On September 20 2014 08:48 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 08:41 Chewbacca. wrote:
Make it so rearm doesn't reset blink dagger damage timer

Honestly, I don't see why people think this would make the hero less bullshit.

The situation where this gets a kill is probably like, 2% of tinker's kills / not dying. Ghost scepter is a bigger issue IMO


If it was changed then that percentage would increase quite a bit I think. How many times shortly after tink gets blink or level one Dagondfoes he secure the kill by rearming blink and getting one more laser off. Now all you'd have to do is auto him once and then run and he don't catch up.

I also don't think he needs as much of a nerd as a lot if people suggest. People in general just don't pick Herod that are good at countering him/deny his jungle.
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
September 20 2014 01:08 GMT
#213
Nerfs:

Lycan - howl (damage boost lowered, cd increased), wolves (slower fade on stealth, lower regen), ulti (no damage boosts)

Tinker - march does not affect magic immune units, damaged reduction to march

DP - lower move speed bonus from 3rd skill, reduce hero damage on ulti (tower damage is fine imo)

Shadow Shaman - adjust targetting priority on wards so that towers shoot them first, nerf hp so that they always die in 2 hits from any hero/tower source and 4 hits from creeps

Doom - nerf gold gain/cd from devour
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Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 01:13:23
September 20 2014 01:13 GMT
#214
Did you just say nerf earth spirit, and list him above with the likes of void, tinker and viper? Hero with the worst pub win rate by a solid margin who isn't even in CM?

Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
September 20 2014 01:30 GMT
#215
On September 20 2014 10:13 Ryder. wrote:
Did you just say nerf earth spirit, and list him above with the likes of void, tinker and viper? Hero with the worst pub win rate by a solid margin who isn't even in CM?



Earth is still a very good hero, it is just extremely hard to play him. Having a bad pub win rate doesn't mean anything in the hands of pro players.
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Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 01:51:52
September 20 2014 01:50 GMT
#216
On September 20 2014 10:30 Seraphic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 10:13 Ryder. wrote:
Did you just say nerf earth spirit, and list him above with the likes of void, tinker and viper? Hero with the worst pub win rate by a solid margin who isn't even in CM?



Earth is still a very good hero, it is just extremely hard to play him. Having a bad pub win rate doesn't mean anything in the hands of pro players.

He isn't even in CM yet, so what exactly is his OPness being based on? Getting rekt by Jeraxai in his last pub?

Good players can dominate on most heroes, I feel like the reason people notice Earth Spirit is that good ES players don't come around much, so when it does happen people notice.

Edit: I'm not arguing he can't be strong, I'm saying it seems a bit early to call for nerfs lol
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 02:34:54
September 20 2014 02:00 GMT
#217
On September 20 2014 10:50 Ryder. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 10:30 Seraphic wrote:
On September 20 2014 10:13 Ryder. wrote:
Did you just say nerf earth spirit, and list him above with the likes of void, tinker and viper? Hero with the worst pub win rate by a solid margin who isn't even in CM?



Earth is still a very good hero, it is just extremely hard to play him. Having a bad pub win rate doesn't mean anything in the hands of pro players.

He isn't even in CM yet, so what exactly is his OPness being based on? Getting rekt by Jeraxai in his last pub?

Good players can dominate on most heroes, I feel like the reason people notice Earth Spirit is that good ES players don't come around much, so when it does happen people notice.

Edit: I'm not arguing he can't be strong, I'm saying it seems a bit early to call for nerfs lol


ES would probably be first pick/ban material if he got in to the game how he is now. He's crazy versatile with an insane ult and 5s aoe silence -- built in blink dagger with epicentre level ult damage
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
September 20 2014 02:41 GMT
#218
On September 20 2014 06:48 Imperfect1987 wrote:
Seeing as I can't find a post that even mentions Riki means he needs more love! I would like to see him get slight base stat buffs, slight move speed buff and slight scaling buff. I would also like to see his smoke radius scale a bit. Long live the sneaky goat!

maybe you should've brought a gem into the thread if you wanted to find him
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 20 2014 04:14 GMT
#219
Definitely wouldn't mind some 4protect 1 buffs again
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
September 20 2014 07:28 GMT
#220
Some of the currently overplayed heroes (Void, DP, etc) just need minor nerfs, such as from increasing the cooldown to their ultimates. This will indirectly buff other less picked heroes. Tinker's march should also be changed from universal to magical damage because this spell is really retarded. Maybe add a 25 mana cost to blink dagger or increase the gold cost. Yeah, that's about it.
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