EPTI have all my parts assembled and windows 10 ready on a usb but when I plug my cpu in everything just pulsates. The lights inside go on-off-on-off as well as the fan. Im so fucking scared I ruined something. PLEASE HELP
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
I have all my parts assembled and windows 10 ready on a usb but when I plug my cpu in everything just pulsates. The lights inside go on-off-on-off as well as the fan. Im so fucking scared I ruined something. PLEASE HELP | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
On November 17 2015 19:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: plzplzplzplzplz help I have all my parts assembled and windows 10 ready on a usb but when I plug my cpu in everything just pulsates. The lights inside go on-off-on-off as well as the fan. Im so fucking scared I ruined something. PLEASE HELP So, there's a number of things this can be. Step 1, make sure you have installed all of your components, and your motherboard has power. In particular, it's easy to forget to plug in power for the CPU. There should be a 12v ATX plug, either 4 pins or 8 pins, for doing this. double check ot make sure everything that needs power has it. Also, make sure your memory is inserted fully into the memory slots. 2. Make sure you don't have any spare standoffs, screws, etc that are lying around on your motherboard and causing a short. If you used thermal grease/paste during your HSF installation, did any get somewhere it should not have? That may also cause a short. Typically like a decent % of the time this happens it's like, something wasn't installed fully or wasn't seated properly. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 17 2015 19:54 Blazinghand wrote: So, there's a number of things this can be. Step 1, make sure you have installed all of your components, and your motherboard has power. In particular, it's easy to forget to plug in power for the CPU. There should be a 12v ATX plug, either 4 pins or 8 pins, for doing this. double check ot make sure everything that needs power has it. Also, make sure your memory is inserted fully into the memory slots. 2. Make sure you don't have any spare standoffs, screws, etc that are lying around on your motherboard and causing a short. If you used thermal grease/paste during your HSF installation, did any get somewhere it should not have? That may also cause a short. Typically like a decent % of the time this happens it's like, something wasn't installed fully or wasn't seated properly. CPU is plugged in, memory is all the way in. But I got a tiny bit of thermal paste just off the cpu that I thought I cleaned up well enough. If that fucks me over I give up. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
On November 17 2015 20:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: CPU is plugged in, memory is all the way in. But I got a tiny bit of thermal paste just off the cpu that I thought I cleaned up well enough. If that fucks me over I give up. make sure all the things on your motherboard need to jbe plugged in got plugged in EDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/28r5pt/why_wont_this_fng_thing_work_a_guide_to/ | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
On November 18 2015 08:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Alright guys. I got it to power on right, I'm not sure what I fixed but it works now. Now the problem is that I cannot get any signal to my monitor. I've tried several different cables from both the graphics card and the motherboard to the monitor, and none give me a signal. I know this monitor works because I use it with my laptop. So my recommendaiton here, assuming you're certain that the monitor works with the other computers you have, is to plug direclty into the motherboard (in case you're having a GPU problem) and double-check that you're plugged in. There should be a VGA or DVI or HDMI port on your mobo that will let you do this, as you've mentioned. Now, when it's plugged into the monitor and powers up, cycle through each of the input settings on your monitor one by one and make completely sure that none of them are getting input from a computer. The classic mistake is the monitor being on the wrong port. Also double check both ends of the cable: is one end plugged into your computer, and the other into the monitor you're using now? Make sure that's the case. So basically: 1. turn off computer 2. DOUBLE CHECK that cable from your mobo to your monitor is plugged in. Try unseating and reseating the cable on both ends!!! 3. cycle through monitor input options | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 18 2015 08:46 Blazinghand wrote: So my recommendaiton here, assuming you're certain that the monitor works with the other computers you have, is to plug direclty into the motherboard (in case you're having a GPU problem) and double-check that you're plugged in. There should be a VGA or DVI or HDMI port on your mobo that will let you do this, as you've mentioned. Now, when it's plugged into the monitor and powers up, cycle through each of the input settings on your monitor one by one and make completely sure that none of them are getting input from a computer. The classic mistake is the monitor being on the wrong port. Also double check both ends of the cable: is one end plugged into your computer, and the other into the monitor you're using now? Make sure that's the case. So basically: 1. turn off computer 2. DOUBLE CHECK that cable from your mobo to your monitor is plugged in. Try unseating and reseating the cable on both ends!!! 3. cycle through monitor input options I've tried with DVI, VGA and HDMI from the mobo, and VGA and HDMI from the graphics card. Cycled through and none of them gave a signal to the monitor. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
On November 18 2015 09:01 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I've tried with DVI, VGA and HDMI from the mobo, and VGA and HDMI from the graphics card. Cycled through and none of them gave a signal to the monitor. Are you certain the computer is turned on, and the monitor is also turned on? Check for noises from your computer like fans, or lights, during this time. Your monitor should also have some sort of light coming from it, usually near a power button. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 18 2015 09:07 Blazinghand wrote: Are you certain the computer is turned on, and the monitor is also turned on? Check for noises from your computer like fans, or lights, during this time. Your monitor should also have some sort of light coming from it, usually near a power button. -_- Ya I made sure I have some other friends telling me that it's probably a PSU problem, and 465 draw on a 500 supply is just cutting it too close. I'll go to a shop and try a different one tomorrow see if that helps | ||
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
and measure it if you want. I doubt you're anywhere near overdrawing the PSU, especially on bootup where the GPU is at ~1% usage. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
On November 18 2015 11:07 Craton wrote: Where are you getting 465? Estimated draw is almost always much higher than real draw. Get something like a Kill-a-watt and measure it if you want. I doubt you're anywhere near overdrawing the PSU, especially on bootup where the GPU is at ~1% usage. I agree with Craton. Even if this was the case, that somehow you were overdrawing, you could uninstall the GPU and that's like half of your power draw right there. | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Cs39gs I do not know what metrics are most important for a motherboard other than that it support the DDR4 memory and i7 I have chosen. I have never had a solid state drive so if there are any issues there please let me know. The last time I chose a power supply I did it by picking out all the other parts first and then buying one with all the connectors I needed and it worked fine. For the case I just chose the best reviewed one on Newegg so I am open to suggestions there, especially if size/sound is an issue. I remember when buying Windows 7 I was warned to buy Pro instead of Home because it had fewer issues so if there is anything like that with Windows 10 please let me know. Now for the big lesson I learned from last time. I would love the rig to be as quiet as possible without using anything strange like a noise muffling case. With all of the deceptive marketing I would love some info on a CPU cooler and case setup where the fans are effective and quiet. | ||
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Panzemek
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On November 16 2015 11:12 bluegarfield wrote: R9 380 can play Fallout 4 smoothly at 1089p medium setting. and it should handle other games decently as well. if you can increase the budget, the reasonable future proofing solution is going for gtx970/r9 390 instead. For monitor, i am as clueless as you. head over here for better advice: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/308280-teamliquid-monitor-thread PSU, i just go by psu tier list on google. there is not enough info on the one you link, so not sure if good or bad. for rosewill, their good and budget option has been capstone series i believe. otherwise i just stick to more reliable brand like seasonic or super flower. I have not been there or purchased anything from the US, so no idea how discount works there Would anyone in the US have any recommendations for what to look for on Cyber Monday? I imagine that not every specific part in the recommended build will be the one that happens to be on sale; what sorts of things should I be looking for as rough equivalents? And how quickly does PCPartPicker update? If it's very fast then that'll be quite helpful. CPU: This is one of the categories I am most out of date with. I am assuming the Xeon line was recommended for the drawing and animation side of things, rather than gaming, but this also means I am very unsure whether any i5 or i7 CPUs are reasonable things to look at for this build. I also don't know much about what I would need to look for with motherboard compatibility. Motherboard: Compatibility is the biggest concern. Overclocking or other modifications are very low priority unless there is significant value to be found by doing so. Memory: 16GB of brand name, right? Last I checked, RAM was RAM, ignoring some minor differences that didn't matter much in the end. Any pitfalls to watch out for nowadays? Storage: Basically just any brand name SSD? Any important details here? I confirmed that she's got plenty of space on an external for media storage, so having an HDD in the build right now is not important at all. Video Card: This seems more likely to have a few specfic ones to look for being on significant sale. The R9 380 and GTX 960 seem to be the cards in the right price range pre-deals; is there any chance that the next tier up would drop low enough to consider? What about something like the R9 285? That looks like it's similar in specs. This comparison list is the sort of thing I get confused on, since the only difference I can follow is the 960 having a higher core speed, which sounds better absent more knowledge. I'm sure there's more to it than that, like the reason for the 285 being so much smaller, or the 960 having a listed power draw that is so much lower. Case: Any normal sized one? Definitely don't need any pretty lights, and don't care very much about noise reduction. I just need the stuff to fit inside and stay in place. Power Supply: I know to go with a brand name one, and will probably just compile a list of the ones that have been recommended in the 420W-500W range in recent builds around here for the production lines to consider. That wattage range seems fine? Monitor: I need to do more research here in general. I feel like this will be the hardest part of the build. Less than 5ms latency seems important, and something to do with the contrast having a very large number next to a one. I'll look into that other thread. Speakers: Things that make sound. May even bail on them entirely if the monitor has (assuredly awful) built-in ones, since they are easy to pick up later. | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
Shopping for motherboards is hard to do because what matters most is that which is hardest to gauge. You want the voltage supplied to parts to be correct and within tight margins (closer to what it should be the better), you want components (e.g. capacitors) that work well and are long-lasting, and so forth. Mostly you end up shopping based on the features you want (supports overclocking, # of SATA ports, # of USB ports or internal connectors, backup BIOS/UEFI, on-motherboard status info, aesthetics, etc.) and coming up with a list of candidates, then looking for technical reviews of the motherboards that cover their parts and reviews from consumers looking for any problematic trends (like the ASRocks which had issues with erratic/high vcore). It's hard to say what's a good or bad motherboard without really digging into all the little pieces and scouring the web for those hard to find, detailed reviews. For the most part they tend to be similarly reliable and feature-laden within matching price ranges. It's good to check in on companies' return processes, since some are less hassle or longer lasting than others. | ||
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Panzemek
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On November 18 2015 09:01 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I've tried with DVI, VGA and HDMI from the mobo, and VGA and HDMI from the graphics card. Cycled through and none of them gave a signal to the monitor. Things that it most likely is. 1. Take out the GPU before powering it on with monitor connected to various outputs from the mobo. If the GPU is in there the mobo outputs are disabled. 2. Make sure you plug in all the 6/8pin to the GPU. | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
On November 18 2015 14:10 Panzemek wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On November 16 2015 11:12 bluegarfield wrote: R9 380 can play Fallout 4 smoothly at 1089p medium setting. and it should handle other games decently as well. if you can increase the budget, the reasonable future proofing solution is going for gtx970/r9 390 instead. For monitor, i am as clueless as you. head over here for better advice: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/308280-teamliquid-monitor-thread PSU, i just go by psu tier list on google. there is not enough info on the one you link, so not sure if good or bad. for rosewill, their good and budget option has been capstone series i believe. otherwise i just stick to more reliable brand like seasonic or super flower. I have not been there or purchased anything from the US, so no idea how discount works there Would anyone in the US have any recommendations for what to look for on Cyber Monday? I imagine that not every specific part in the recommended build will be the one that happens to be on sale; what sorts of things should I be looking for as rough equivalents? And how quickly does PCPartPicker update? If it's very fast then that'll be quite helpful. CPU: This is one of the categories I am most out of date with. I am assuming the Xeon line was recommended for the drawing and animation side of things, rather than gaming, but this also means I am very unsure whether any i5 or i7 CPUs are reasonable things to look at for this build. I also don't know much about what I would need to look for with motherboard compatibility. Motherboard: Compatibility is the biggest concern. Overclocking or other modifications are very low priority unless there is significant value to be found by doing so. Memory: 16GB of brand name, right? Last I checked, RAM was RAM, ignoring some minor differences that didn't matter much in the end. Any pitfalls to watch out for nowadays? Storage: Basically just any brand name SSD? Any important details here? I confirmed that she's got plenty of space on an external for media storage, so having an HDD in the build right now is not important at all. Video Card: This seems more likely to have a few specfic ones to look for being on significant sale. The R9 380 and GTX 960 seem to be the cards in the right price range pre-deals; is there any chance that the next tier up would drop low enough to consider? What about something like the R9 285? That looks like it's similar in specs. This comparison list is the sort of thing I get confused on, since the only difference I can follow is the 960 having a higher core speed, which sounds better absent more knowledge. I'm sure there's more to it than that, like the reason for the 285 being so much smaller, or the 960 having a listed power draw that is so much lower. Case: Any normal sized one? Definitely don't need any pretty lights, and don't care very much about noise reduction. I just need the stuff to fit inside and stay in place. Power Supply: I know to go with a brand name one, and will probably just compile a list of the ones that have been recommended in the 420W-500W range in recent builds around here for the production lines to consider. That wattage range seems fine? Monitor: I need to do more research here in general. I feel like this will be the hardest part of the build. Less than 5ms latency seems important, and something to do with the contrast having a very large number next to a one. I'll look into that other thread. Speakers: Things that make sound. May even bail on them entirely if the monitor has (assuredly awful) built-in ones, since they are easy to pick up later. xeon 1231v3 is for rendering, video encoding and streaming, since you said usage will be streaming while drawing. it's just the cheaper alternative to i7. i7 will be better, but more expensive. for gaming you only need i5, for now. without overclocking, the xeon only lose 0.1GHz per core compare to i5, so you dont really lose much gaming power. motherboard: craton has already covered that. it's more important when you are overclocking to have super high quality components and more phase counts, but other than that just look for features you need and good review in term of longevity. ram is ram, yes. ssd: some brands are worse than other, be it slower or straight up fails. most recommended models are crucial bx100, mx100 and samsung 850evo. there are others but those are few that available at my area so i only know those gpu: need more research on that, on phone atm so will update this later. case: not sure what you mean by normal size. mid tower atx case are pretty normal. or just pick whatever case that you like and that fit all the components inside, and fit your budget. psu: yeah that range is fine. monitor: 5ms latency is not that important, especially you are neither hardcore gamer nor whatever. it's good to have, but not top priority. for drawing, important things will be image reproduction (? is it the right term?) and color accuracy. | ||
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Panzemek
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(Random side note that no one has any reason to care about, apparently my browser had the password saved for my old account, so Melancholia is saved! Apparently all those years ago I decided that "protoss" was a sufficiently secure password -_-) | ||
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Termi
Denmark23 Posts
With Black Friday and Christmas coming up, I think it is time for me to get a new pc. I've been looking through the builds here and some on pcpartpicker and finally got a friend to recommend me something. His idea of a build - all the components are from www.komplett.dk Case: Cooler Master Silencio 352 Mini Tower | 499 DKK CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor | 1439 DKK Motherboard: ASUS H97M-E, Socket-1150 | 789 DKK Memory: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 8GB CL8 | 769 DKK Video card: MSI GeForce GTX 960 Gaming 2GB | 1649 DKK Power supply: Corsair CX 500M, 500W PSU | 549 DKK This adds up to 5644 DKK or 806.5 USD Now for storage i already have a 240 GB SSD, so i dont know whether to get another SSD/HDD or just completely skip it. A concern of my however is with internet. I need it to be able to connect to a wireless network, since it is going to be somewhat "far" from the internet router. We have 100 down and 50 up, and my current pc can only get up to 40/20. So I don't know whether to get an integrated wireless adapter or just get something powerful you can plug in via USB like this https://goo.gl/i9HEdk. I would appreciate your guys' feedback on the build :-) | ||
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