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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
SeCReTT
Profile Joined November 2015
31 Posts
November 18 2015 16:19 GMT
#11261
this was so helpfull ! thanks
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20166 Posts
November 18 2015 19:09 GMT
#11262
What are the odds my AMD phenom II x4 955 and GTX 460 1gb can run fallout 3? Or should I be looking to upgrade this black friday...
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
November 18 2015 23:59 GMT
#11263
On November 18 2015 16:07 Panzemek wrote:
That helps a lot, Craton! Knowing when my question doesn't make sense gives me a much better sense of what I should be paying attention to.

No problem. Best to just come up with a list of things you want to be able to do and to be able to plug in and start from there. Builds usually start with the CPU since the socket there determines the motherboard and RAM options (e.g. DDR3 vs DDR4).
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 19 2015 02:11 GMT
#11264
TURNS OUT YOU GUYS WERE FUCKING RIGHT, A NEW PSU DOESNT DO SHIT TO HELP

GODDAMN IT WHY THE FUCK DID I EVER TRY BUILDING THIS MYSELF IM SO FUCKING MAD.

IM OUT OF IDEAS. fuck everything
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-19 03:37:46
November 19 2015 03:37 GMT
#11265
Do you even get to POST?

It sounds a lot like when I had a CPU that wasn't compatible with my motherboard on the BIOS revision it had. Wouldn't POST from what I could tell - no beeps even with a mobo speaker. Everything else powered up, but no picture from anything.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 19 2015 04:42 GMT
#11266
On November 19 2015 12:37 Craton wrote:
Do you even get to POST?

It sounds a lot like when I had a CPU that wasn't compatible with my motherboard on the BIOS revision it had. Wouldn't POST from what I could tell - no beeps even with a mobo speaker. Everything else powered up, but no picture from anything.

I did get a single beep POST though, so it should all be working fine.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-19 05:08:19
November 19 2015 04:59 GMT
#11267
Did you try the motherboard video while the video card was removed from the computer? When you say you "cycled through" the inputs, does that mean you were changing the monitor's expected input (from the monitor buttons) to match what you had plugged in?

Really something just doesn't add up. At this point I'd suspect the motherboard, but you say it gives a successful POST beep. Your manual usually covers the beep codes just to be sure it matches what you're hearing (e.g. long vs short).

Did you post a part list somewhere?
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killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-19 05:52:38
November 19 2015 05:52 GMT
#11268
On November 19 2015 13:59 Craton wrote:
Did you try the motherboard video while the video card was removed from the computer? When you say you "cycled through" the inputs, does that mean you were changing the monitor's expected input (from the monitor buttons) to match what you had plugged in?

Really something just doesn't add up. At this point I'd suspect the motherboard, but you say it gives a successful POST beep. Your manual usually covers the beep codes just to be sure it matches what you're hearing (e.g. long vs short).

Did you post a part list somewhere?


Do that. If you still get no video, your motherboard probably has an issue.

Make sure you're fully turning off and unplugging your computer when removing and installing parts as well.
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
November 19 2015 07:00 GMT
#11269
I have chosen all of my parts except for my MOBO. I was looking at the Windows 10 compatible (according to their site) ASUS 1151/Z170 boards with a decent number of USB ports and they all have incredibly frightening reviews in regard to the BIOS. I currently have 5 USB devices plugged into the back and two into the front of my current rig and was hoping to keep similar options. Does anybody here have any experience with ASUS BIOS?
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
November 19 2015 13:05 GMT
#11270
Any remotely modern mobo will be Windows 10 compatible and ASUS is a well regarded brand.

What was alarming about the reviews?

(I just read one of your previous posts - what do you find strange about "noise muffling" cases? Of course some components are quieter than others, but a sound dampening case is a great place to start if noise is a big concern.)
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Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
November 19 2015 15:45 GMT
#11271
On November 19 2015 22:05 z0rz wrote:
Any remotely modern mobo will be Windows 10 compatible and ASUS is a well regarded brand.

What was alarming about the reviews?

(I just read one of your previous posts - what do you find strange about "noise muffling" cases? Of course some components are quieter than others, but a sound dampening case is a great place to start if noise is a big concern.)


I think I was just behind the times on the case thing. When I looked at them in early 2010 they all seemed to have terrible airflow which is not now the case it seems. I am actually considering the Fractal Design Define R5 which is a noise reducing case.

As for Windows 10 compatibility, the ASUS site only lists nine Z170 boards as Windows 10 compatible (if I am reading it right).

http://www.asus.com/microsite/mb/Windows_10/

I may just be overthinking it at this point. Reading review after review on NewEgg where even the 4/5 egg ratings say it is great except the BIOS made me doubt them. I will keep doing my research.
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
November 19 2015 16:33 GMT
#11272
Need help purchasing the best laptop I can buy for 500$

Looking on newegg, amazon, theres just so freaking many that I'm having trouble deciding.

Any suggestions on top brands? This won't be used for gaming. Mostly work (excel type stuff) and watching streams/movies, etc. Would prefer something that won't slow down by having multiple programs open
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 19 2015 20:07 GMT
#11273
if anyone from france is building a computer, this is a pretty sick frigging deal : http://www.grosbill.com/4-gainward_amd_vapor_x_r9_290_4g_gddr5_pci_e_tri_x_lite_-655091-informatique-carte_graphique_gamer
maru lover forever
Lothor
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10 Posts
November 19 2015 21:24 GMT
#11274
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/218224-nvidia-unveils-pascal-specifics-up-to-16gb-of-vram-1tb-of-bandwidth

How much of an exponential increase in fps do you project Pascal to bring for modern games? Will it make 4k viable for gaming?
Panzemek
Profile Joined November 2015
13 Posts
November 20 2015 01:44 GMT
#11275
On November 19 2015 08:59 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2015 16:07 Panzemek wrote:
That helps a lot, Craton! Knowing when my question doesn't make sense gives me a much better sense of what I should be paying attention to.

No problem. Best to just come up with a list of things you want to be able to do and to be able to plug in and start from there. Builds usually start with the CPU since the socket there determines the motherboard and RAM options (e.g. DDR3 vs DDR4).

Oh, bluegarfield already got me a base build to work off of, whatever I end up with is likely to be just fine with the info I have so far. I just like to prepare extra when I can.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 20 2015 01:47 GMT
#11276
Hi guys, I've discovered the issue with my PC. There are a few bent pins in the CPU slot on the motherboard. I don't think I can unbent them myself, but I'm also not sure if I'll get warranty. Shit sucks yo
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 05:37:42
November 20 2015 05:34 GMT
#11277
You can try using something like the corner of a thin plastic card and gently nudging the bent pin in the right direction. It takes very little force to move them, but they're also brittle. Something to try if the RMA doesn't go through.

Bent pins usually happen from being too forceful with the CPU or wrenching too hard on the heatsink when it's attached (like twisting it).
twitch.tv/cratonz
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 09:20:27
November 20 2015 09:14 GMT
#11278
Hey any ideas about laptops to let me play SC2 at least 1080p on high settings? I have 2013 xps15 fully specced, but it sounds like a jetplane every time I play SC2 so I've dropped all setting to low and it still not great.

I was thinking of maybe updgrading to new XPS 15 with 6th gen i7 and 960m or maybe buying some Clevo (eyeing this) or Razer Blade (i7420HQ, 970m...reading more actually seems gets pretty loud as well which I'm definitely trying to avoid).

Occasionally outside this I run some ides and VMs but don't use laptop much otherwise...really just want good, quiet SC2 performance plus sometimes I play Civ5/Dota.

My questions are:
1) Anyone have exp playing sc2 on new xps 15 (most portable out of the 3 laptops I'm considering).
2) Thoughts on buying Clevo (looking to buy model at around 2k with i76700, 980m, 4k screen) vs said xps 15
3) If I bought Sagar, thoughts on buying it at Xoiticpc (reputable?)
4) Other laptops I should be considering? Would any of these be good enough to upgrade for (got current laptop on sale and have a friend willing to buy mine so I'd be eating about 900 dollars between buying it 1.5yr ago on sale and selling it now).

edit: hope you don't mind me posting in computer thread, can repost in its own thread but thought people here might also be somewhat knoweldgeable re laptops).
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 20 2015 10:58 GMT
#11279
On November 19 2015 04:09 decafchicken wrote:
What are the odds my AMD phenom II x4 955 and GTX 460 1gb can run fallout 3? Or should I be looking to upgrade this black friday...

you should be able to run fallout 3
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
November 20 2015 11:40 GMT
#11280
On November 19 2015 04:09 decafchicken wrote:
What are the odds my AMD phenom II x4 955 and GTX 460 1gb can run fallout 3? Or should I be looking to upgrade this black friday...

Do you play sc2? How is it?
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