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Frumpysnoo
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States247 Posts
September 29 2012 04:18 GMT
#21
3500 DPI 1000hz, 7/11 in windows 65% in SC2. What I originally would do is set my sensativity to an unplayable point, then after an hour or so drop it down a little bit. I found this would allow me to adjust to higher sensativity levels easier; lowering your sensativity is easier to adjust to in comparison to moving your sensativity settings up. I have no issues with these settings at all, but another factor you should consider when changing your sensativity is your mouse pad. I use a cloth pad for comfort and precision, and it compliments my settings well as I have to physically move my mouse very little. I couldn't imagine these settings on say a plastic pad.
boomudead1
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States186 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 08:00:14
September 29 2012 04:35 GMT
#22
On September 29 2012 10:01 Pisko. wrote:
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On September 29 2012 09:36 boomudead1 wrote:
3500 dpi. 1000hz. enhance pointer precision on. fast but once u get used to it. u barely need to move ur mouse. doesnt hurt ur risk. and move mouse further w/o moving ur risk a lot. for micro. u will get used to it.

You're just asking to get RSI.


whats RSI

okay i know what it is now. but it feels really comfortable for me. the cursor is about 4.5milimerters from left to right and 3.5ish mm top to bottom. feels just right. i dont get it. i dont have to move my wrist at all. barely.

EDIT. i heard with high sensitive mouse lower bloodflows and all that since u barely move ur wrist but whats the different with moving my wrist another milimeter? im so used to this setting. i have it at 100% in sc2 and window and can perfectly select little units all minimap clicking and all that. im so used to it. will it give me RSI?

can someone conform this plz
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
September 29 2012 04:51 GMT
#23
On September 29 2012 07:04 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 06:54 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On September 29 2012 06:49 Nimix wrote:
As said above, 6/11 windows sens is default and will prevent pixel jumping, then remove sc2 sens. A lot of players use between 800 and 1200 DPI, 1200 DPI being already quite high. Demuslim said on his stream he uses 1070, I use 800. It's a matter of preference anyway, but around those numbers you have a good speed/precision compromise. I don't know how people can play at 3200 DPI as I saw in other threads x_x

I'm curious as to whether any legitimately good players use 3200 DPI and above. I've tried and its completely rediculous.


Ive never seen anybody legitimately use over 2k, out of all the people ive asked etc, nobody actuly used that without having positive and/or negative acceleration on, or messing up scales, using for example 3200dpi, but 3/11 in windows, which will ignore 75% of your mouse movement


I'm using 3200dpi on my sensei with 6/11 windows and 51% in SC2 :S by no means am I a high level player but it feels completely fine to play.(very few mistakes with mouse accuracy) Pretty much use the same settings for CS and Dota 2 (with default settings in game for both)

So its possible just depends on what people are used to. Cant imagine going back to such low dpi that I used to play with years ago O.o
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
September 29 2012 05:23 GMT
#24
On September 29 2012 13:51 Random_Guy09 wrote:
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On September 29 2012 07:04 Cyro wrote:
On September 29 2012 06:54 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On September 29 2012 06:49 Nimix wrote:
As said above, 6/11 windows sens is default and will prevent pixel jumping, then remove sc2 sens. A lot of players use between 800 and 1200 DPI, 1200 DPI being already quite high. Demuslim said on his stream he uses 1070, I use 800. It's a matter of preference anyway, but around those numbers you have a good speed/precision compromise. I don't know how people can play at 3200 DPI as I saw in other threads x_x

I'm curious as to whether any legitimately good players use 3200 DPI and above. I've tried and its completely rediculous.


Ive never seen anybody legitimately use over 2k, out of all the people ive asked etc, nobody actuly used that without having positive and/or negative acceleration on, or messing up scales, using for example 3200dpi, but 3/11 in windows, which will ignore 75% of your mouse movement


I'm using 3200dpi on my sensei with 6/11 windows and 51% in SC2 :S by no means am I a high level player but it feels completely fine to play.(very few mistakes with mouse accuracy) Pretty much use the same settings for CS and Dota 2 (with default settings in game for both)

So its possible just depends on what people are used to. Cant imagine going back to such low dpi that I used to play with years ago O.o


Higher dpi gets you nothing, but lower dpi will help your accuracy.
You can click on individual scvs or zerglings with ease at great speeds (5 to 10 individual units in a second without mis clicks for example, no boxing) at 3200dpi? You can not do that.

Having been a long time user of higher dpi settings, my very clear recommendation is that <2000 dpi is just way better. Much more comfortable for gameplay, and increased accuracy.

What exactly you should go for, of course, depends on your mouse and mouse pad.
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
September 29 2012 06:43 GMT
#25
I guess all those people who play at 2K+ DPI play with some sort of accel, you CAN'T be precise otherwise with that much. The problem of mouse accel is that you can't be fast AND precise with it, as the distance you need to move your mouse for a given distance will vary all the time. I had a friend that played CS 1.6 with accel on, and his aim was totally on and off because off that.
To OP, also keep in mind that the relative sensitivity to a DPI setting depends of your resolution, IE my 800 DPI are for 1920x1080, if yours is lower, you need to lower the DPI to get the same (as it's inches per pixels, less pixels = less distance to cross the whole screen)
RagingKiwi92
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Netherlands50 Posts
September 29 2012 10:19 GMT
#26
On September 29 2012 10:01 Pisko. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 09:36 boomudead1 wrote:
3500 dpi. 1000hz. enhance pointer precision on. fast but once u get used to it. u barely need to move ur mouse. doesnt hurt ur risk. and move mouse further w/o moving ur risk a lot. for micro. u will get used to it.

You're just asking to get RSI.


Using the Abyssus, same dpi and hz, and actually its true what the initial guy says, you can do everything with your wrist and you barely need to move your arm. Maybe it suits people better with higher APM(?)(my apm is 220-240, masters zerg) because they move faster with both keyboard and mouse. Whenever I go back to a "normal" mouse setting at school or something, it feels like it takes far too much effort to move the cursor, espescially when using it for a longer period of time.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 10:51:22
September 29 2012 10:49 GMT
#27
On September 29 2012 19:19 RagingKiwi92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 10:01 Pisko. wrote:
On September 29 2012 09:36 boomudead1 wrote:
3500 dpi. 1000hz. enhance pointer precision on. fast but once u get used to it. u barely need to move ur mouse. doesnt hurt ur risk. and move mouse further w/o moving ur risk a lot. for micro. u will get used to it.

You're just asking to get RSI.


Using the Abyssus, same dpi and hz, and actually its true what the initial guy says, you can do everything with your wrist and you barely need to move your arm. Maybe it suits people better with higher APM(?)(my apm is 220-240, masters zerg) because they move faster with both keyboard and mouse. Whenever I go back to a "normal" mouse setting at school or something, it feels like it takes far too much effort to move the cursor, espescially when using it for a longer period of time.



"high dpi moves faster" is a stupid excuse, if you are using the right kinds of grips, you can actuly make accurate cross-screen movements with far lower dpi's faster or at least matching the speed of higher ones (at the same accuracy)

The higher you go in terms of DPI, the more you are trading away accuracy though, you might not notice it in sc2, but in other games it is extremely obvious, and coming back from a competitive FPS or playing a bunch (6+ hours) of Osu or something, you will really see the uncomparable difference. Ive used 3200dpi for hundreds of hours, ~360-540 for hundreds also, and i would never go back above 1k in my life.

You will also notice down at the low dpi settings like 450, if you play for 15 hours behind your shoulder will ache badly, but if you are at 800-1k+, you cant even make half those playing times because your wrist locks up and doesnt function, as well as causes a great amount of pain. But most people dont ladder or chain games of any mouse-intensive type for more than a couple hours, so its not really noticed. ^In my experience
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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
September 29 2012 11:14 GMT
#28
On September 29 2012 19:49 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 19:19 RagingKiwi92 wrote:
On September 29 2012 10:01 Pisko. wrote:
On September 29 2012 09:36 boomudead1 wrote:
3500 dpi. 1000hz. enhance pointer precision on. fast but once u get used to it. u barely need to move ur mouse. doesnt hurt ur risk. and move mouse further w/o moving ur risk a lot. for micro. u will get used to it.

You're just asking to get RSI.


Using the Abyssus, same dpi and hz, and actually its true what the initial guy says, you can do everything with your wrist and you barely need to move your arm. Maybe it suits people better with higher APM(?)(my apm is 220-240, masters zerg) because they move faster with both keyboard and mouse. Whenever I go back to a "normal" mouse setting at school or something, it feels like it takes far too much effort to move the cursor, espescially when using it for a longer period of time.



"high dpi moves faster" is a stupid excuse, if you are using the right kinds of grips, you can actuly make accurate cross-screen movements with far lower dpi's faster or at least matching the speed of higher ones (at the same accuracy)

The higher you go in terms of DPI, the more you are trading away accuracy though, you might not notice it in sc2, but in other games it is extremely obvious, and coming back from a competitive FPS or playing a bunch (6+ hours) of Osu or something, you will really see the uncomparable difference. Ive used 3200dpi for hundreds of hours, ~360-540 for hundreds also, and i would never go back above 1k in my life.

You will also notice down at the low dpi settings like 450, if you play for 15 hours behind your shoulder will ache badly, but if you are at 800-1k+, you cant even make half those playing times because your wrist locks up and doesnt function, as well as causes a great amount of pain. But most people dont ladder or chain games of any mouse-intensive type for more than a couple hours, so its not really noticed. ^In my experience


I played SC2 with a dpi of 800, 1600 and 3500. I am using Palm Grip (I think the grip plays a big role in this as well since you usually use a lower dpi with claw grip) and I am most comfortable with 3500 for now.
I don't think there is a 'best setting' for everyone, it's mostly up to personal preference.
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Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
September 29 2012 11:21 GMT
#29
To people playing with very high DPI, you should also try to clean your mouse lens. I was playing at 1600 but actually the sensor had a bit of dust on it, and it reduced sensitivity greatly, as well as precision. I cleaned it and had to go back to 800 ish for the same sens, so check that :o
shadowy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Bulgaria305 Posts
September 29 2012 11:26 GMT
#30
It's really all about personal preferences. Just about everybody has their own formula, that they would swear for.

It's important to figure out what is best for you. Although, it would be good if you don't mess with Windows mouse settings (the infamous 6/11) to avoid issues like pixel skipping. Don't be afraid to mess around though and figure it out for yourself.

Personally I prefer fast mouse with very little movement with the wrist. so my settings are: 2200 DPI on Razer DeathAdder Black 3.5G; 6/11 on win, all accelerations zeroed. SC2 client - well, I have no idea - guess everything is by default.

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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
September 29 2012 11:35 GMT
#31
Razer Abyssus
3500 dpi
5.5 sensitivity on the razer driver program
6/11 in windows
all precision enhancement: off
QuackPocketDuck
Profile Joined January 2011
410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 11:39:15
September 29 2012 11:36 GMT
#32
I usually run a mouse accel fix for windows.. assuming you are not on XP
all enhancements off
6/11 in windows then 51% sc2 in game sensitivity
sc2 smooth mouse? (forgot what its actually called its under sc2 options somewhere I have it ticked)
800dpi for shooters and 1600dpi for starcraft 2 / dota
As long as there is absolutely zero acceleration I can probably get used to any sensitivity.
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Syngelic
Profile Joined August 2010
United States78 Posts
September 29 2012 11:51 GMT
#33
i dont understand...i use corsair m60 @ 5700 dpi, windows at 6/11 with no accel or driver 'enhancements' with sc2 sens off and am completly fine...
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AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 12:32:25
September 29 2012 12:31 GMT
#34
I use steelseries kana at 800 dpi with no acceleration and 6/11 windows sens. I pretty much made sure I bought a mouse that has no problems (the kana at 800 dpi or below is phenomenal) and then copied IMmvp's settings (lol). My micro and multitasking via the minimap has become infinitely quicker and more accurate from doing this. Previously I used an mx518 at 1600 dpi, just in case you were wondering.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
September 29 2012 13:39 GMT
#35
I will continue to link this article in mouse threads until the day that the majority of gamers understand these technologies/considerations: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333648

to the OP, you should at least take a look at the acceleration, CPI (the entire section is important), and windows sensitivity settings sections, that should give you a good idea on what settings do what, and how you should go about setting up your own properly.
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
September 29 2012 16:03 GMT
#36
On September 29 2012 22:39 wo1fwood wrote:
I will continue to link this article in mouse threads until the day that the majority of gamers understand these technologies/considerations: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333648


I was literally just about to bitch out the OP for being a lazy jerk, but it looks like you beat me to it. Damn.

Seriously people, go read wo1fwood's guide and stop making stupid one question threads.
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Faith.980
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada1 Post
April 18 2013 20:25 GMT
#37
is it THAT usefull? I look at stephano alot, and when you check out his twitch.tv profile he says he's 4\11 , 32% in starcraft 2 and at 1600 DPI. I mean, he's one of the best player, if mouse control would be that important one would think he would make the change
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
April 18 2013 20:30 GMT
#38
Windows at 4/11 is a perfect 0.5 factor making the mouse 800 dpi on the desktop, nothing bad about it. The 31 % to 34 % slot in SC2 is perhaps the exact same 0.5 factor?
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Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
April 18 2013 23:10 GMT
#39
I use to have around 1600 dpi, but decided to change to 800 because that's what most pros use. It felt weird as hell in the beginning, like I was moving my hand across the mouse pad to move around. Now I'm use to it though and it's definitely better for micro and accuracy on the minimap.

windows 6/11, dpi 800, sc2 sensitivity ON at 51% (there's a slight chance if you have it off that it could lag if windows lags, or something...i read something about it in a guide..), enhance precision off.
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Anziel
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada4 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 00:50:59
April 19 2013 00:33 GMT
#40
i'll try that a few games, see if it's better than my old 1600 dpi

Edit: tryed it a few games, didn't like it, 800 DPI was way too slow for me, i had trouble boxing a pack of speedlings on Creep. good tips tho, made me find that i was on 1800 instead of 1600, good call
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