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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
April 19 2013 01:25 GMT
#41
Edit: tryed it a few games, didn't like it


Not good enough.

Get up, new day, set to 600dpi, play for 5-10 games then put it to 800.

I adjusted from 3500 to 450 in a couple of days and never went back, aside from some nudges up towards 800 because it's easier to control the sc2 camera with middle mouse drag scroll at higher dpi's.

450 on 1920x1080 is probably too low for most people, but 800 is not - seriously. It's just a case of adjustment.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
April 19 2013 03:38 GMT
#42
On April 19 2013 10:25 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
Edit: tryed it a few games, didn't like it


Not good enough.

Get up, new day, set to 600dpi, play for 5-10 games then put it to 800.

I adjusted from 3500 to 450 in a couple of days and never went back, aside from some nudges up towards 800 because it's easier to control the sc2 camera with middle mouse drag scroll at higher dpi's.

450 on 1920x1080 is probably too low for most people, but 800 is not - seriously. It's just a case of adjustment.

added for emphasis, but yea, you really need to spend more than a couple of minutes or hours trying to get used to a new cpi setting. When I went from a mid sens player to a low-ultra low sens player it took me probably 2 months to fully adjust, but I will never go back now. Heck, I just got my g100s and have been using 750 cpi instead of 800 (native step), and it took me 3-4 days just to adjust to that small change, but I'm feeling I have much more control again. You really need to spend a lot more time trying things in order to find your best sensitivity, 2-3 day's isn't enough. A week to try smaller things out. A month for a new mouse, and at least two for both of these things combined. This is also why most pro's won't continually switch mice and stick with theirs, even if it performs suboptimally, because they often don't have the time they would need to re-adjust.
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vaL4r
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
April 19 2013 03:50 GMT
#43
Pretty much everything you would need to know about is covered here: http://mousespeed.net/sc2-mouse-optimization

+ Show Spoiler [My non scientific opinion on sensitiv…] +
Very high "sensitivity" is bad and unhealthy.

When I think of low sensitivity I think of 400-600 dpi, 800-1000 medium and 1600 high.Unless your screen resolution is very different from the common 1600x900/1920x1080 I advise everyone to stay within the 500-1000 dpi range.

Even with legitimately horrible mouse settings one can still play starcraftII at a high level.
Ughm.. ughm and disable enhanced pointer precision!!
You need to play starcraft with a light heart. If you play with a heavy heart, you can't win. -NaDa
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
April 19 2013 11:57 GMT
#44
On April 19 2013 09:33 Anziel wrote:
i'll try that a few games, see if it's better than my old 1600 dpi

Edit: tryed it a few games, didn't like it, 800 DPI was way too slow for me, i had trouble boxing a pack of speedlings on Creep. good tips tho, made me find that i was on 1800 instead of 1600, good call

Umm ya it didn't take me a few games; it took more like 4 days of lots of playing to get used to it
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ZeroReverse
Profile Joined September 2010
Bulgaria108 Posts
April 19 2013 13:45 GMT
#45
Default windows speed, default SC2 sense, 1800dpi, 1000hz thats on 1366x768 (laptop) resolution. When I switch to monitor with higher resolution, I will have to up the dpi and adjust windows and sc2 sense to retain the same speed.
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Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
April 20 2013 16:27 GMT
#46
I was wondering, if I use different resolution for windows and game. Wouldn't be helpful if I changed mouse sensitivity from basic 51% to match my response in windows? I know that ideally I would change DPI everytime I play a game, but that's too much bother.

This way I wouldn't have to be accustomed to two different mouse sensitivities. And since my resolution ingame is lower than in windows, it shouldn't affect accuracy.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 16:44:53
April 20 2013 16:42 GMT
#47
And since my resolution ingame is lower than in windows, it shouldn't affect accuracy.


Changing DPI to have the same distance to cross screen wouldn't affect accuracy. Using a multiplier that makes it impossible to select certain pixels would (sc2 sens or windows out of 6/11)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 17:12:41
April 20 2013 17:06 GMT
#48
Maybe I should just make different mouse profile, it's pretty easy with razer drivers.
IndyStarCraft
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland2618 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 18:19:53
April 20 2013 18:19 GMT
#49
6/11 in windows
51% in SC2
1499 dpi on my mouse (sensei)

1000hz
1920x1080
gl hf 1a2a3a gg
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
April 20 2013 21:16 GMT
#50
Different sensitivities work for different people. With my Deathadder 2013, I can play at anything from 800 to 1600dpi with no problems (Using 1200 atm, seems like a happy medium between 800 and 1600)
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eBinTestO
Profile Joined August 2012
Finland104 Posts
April 20 2013 21:59 GMT
#51
1080 dpi
6/11 in windows
acceleration off, SC sens 51-54% cant remember what but it's 1:1
1000hz
1920x1080

Using the Abyssus with some kind of fingertip grip :D I have fairly big hands but it feels nice
[GS]PLACiD
Profile Joined April 2013
Belgium33 Posts
April 20 2013 22:04 GMT
#52
I've always preferred low dpi, even on high res, some might call it stupid or insane, but for me personally it works way better than using higher dpi values..

360 dpi
6/11 windows (accel off)
SC sens 82%
1000hz
1440x900

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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 22:09:39
April 20 2013 22:09 GMT
#53
SC sens 82%


This is like using something like 800dpi.. (at 1440x900.. so that's like equivelant to 1k dpi at 1920x1080.. which is completely normal middle of the line sensitivity) you are doubling your mouse speed in sc2 menu. Just put it to 51-54% and raise your DPI
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
[GS]PLACiD
Profile Joined April 2013
Belgium33 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 22:16:15
April 20 2013 22:14 GMT
#54
On April 21 2013 07:09 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
SC sens 82%


This is like using something like 800dpi.. (at 1440x900.. so that's like equivelant to 1k dpi at 1920x1080.. which is completely normal middle of the line sensitivity) you are doubling your mouse speed in sc2 menu. Just put it to 51-54% and raise your DPI


You don't get it, it's about feeling, higher dpi values feel awkward to me whereas with lower dpi values I can play at ease without frowning upon my mouse because it feels weird using higher dpi values, so thanks for your advice but no thanks.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
April 20 2013 23:12 GMT
#55
You're multiplying your 450dpi to around 800 if you use >54% in sc2 sens.. The feeling will be exactly the same if you play with that sens properly, instead of using bad multipliers (same mouse movement to cross screen), only you don't have messy mouse sens because of upscaling
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
[GS]PLACiD
Profile Joined April 2013
Belgium33 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 23:27:15
April 20 2013 23:24 GMT
#56
On April 21 2013 08:12 Cyro wrote:
You're multiplying your 450dpi to around 800 if you use >54% in sc2 sens.. The feeling will be exactly the same if you play with that sens properly, instead of using bad multipliers (same mouse movement to cross screen), only you don't have messy mouse sens because of upscaling


First of all I'm using 360, which makes me wonder if you've even read my comment properly. And no, the feeling won't be exactly the same, I know this as a fact since I've already tried this in numerous ways with various dpi values and various mice, the feeling is definitely different when you use higher dpi values and it's annoying. Btw, you can claim I have a messy mouse sens because of upscaling, but at least I won't get annoyed at the feeling of the sensitivity, + it works for me, so whether it's "messy" or not is irrelevant.
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mk.ultra
Profile Joined March 2012
United States54 Posts
April 21 2013 06:49 GMT
#57
On September 29 2012 06:49 Nimix wrote:
As said above, 6/11 windows sens is default and will prevent pixel jumping, then remove sc2 sens. A lot of players use between 800 and 1200 DPI, 1200 DPI being already quite high. Demuslim said on his stream he uses 1070, I use 800. It's a matter of preference anyway, but around those numbers you have a good speed/precision compromise. I don't know how people can play at 3200 DPI as I saw in other threads x_x


I actually was using 3200 DPI for awhile, but it was with a palm grip mouse that was hard to move.

I've since switched to a smaller, fingertip grip mouse and 1800 DPI; it's much, much better :D
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Typhoon1789
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 08:03:31
April 21 2013 07:52 GMT
#58
For me i have mine set at 1600 DPI and 50% in windows. In SCII i turned off sensitivity options.

I really should try and heighten it little because i feel my mouse speed is a wee bit slow when doing lategame multitask.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
April 21 2013 08:01 GMT
#59
On April 21 2013 08:24 [GS]PLACiD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 08:12 Cyro wrote:
You're multiplying your 450dpi to around 800 if you use >54% in sc2 sens.. The feeling will be exactly the same if you play with that sens properly, instead of using bad multipliers (same mouse movement to cross screen), only you don't have messy mouse sens because of upscaling


First of all I'm using 360, which makes me wonder if you've even read my comment properly. And no, the feeling won't be exactly the same, I know this as a fact since I've already tried this in numerous ways with various dpi values and various mice, the feeling is definitely different when you use higher dpi values and it's annoying. Btw, you can claim I have a messy mouse sens because of upscaling, but at least I won't get annoyed at the feeling of the sensitivity, + it works for me, so whether it's "messy" or not is irrelevant.


I got it wrong by 1 step because i didn't go back and check the comment again, because i knew what you said.

Why are you using ~80% sens in starcraft 2? It's a DPI multiplier you shouldn't be using, if you want X sens, then set X sens, not Z*Y for the same sens as X but in a messed up way

And to the guy saying 1600 feels too slow for some tasks - get used to it, play some fast maps on Osu, maybe even lower it - try to establish muscle memory, perfect mechanics and micro i can't see more than ~1k or so used - more DPI is a handicap on accuracy but 800 won't limit what you can do - I am only using more than 360/450 now because that's low enough to negatively affect performance trying to push >250apm, if you're having trouble with 1600, you just need to get used to it, lower, or establish better muscle memory
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Silencioseu
Profile Joined June 2011
Cyprus493 Posts
April 21 2013 08:23 GMT
#60
Was having standard settings and 2600 dpi, when i switch back to 800(only when i play CS) after awhile my brain feels just dead. i mjust too used into barely moving the mouse to move the pointer across the screen
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