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apparently the TG3 is pretty good, seems amazingly cheap though. Source
That CM storm is blue. (click specifications)
The TG3 seems an easy win if you want backlighting and can handle black switches. But I would do some more research if I were you, because that deal just seems too amazing at only $50. edit: and it has double shot keys, this TG3 is incredible.
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On February 25 2012 15:33 Blaec wrote:apparently the TG3 is pretty good, seems amazingly cheap though. SourceThat CM storm is blue. (click specifications) The TG3 seems an easy win if you want backlighting and can handle black switches. But I would do some more research if I were you, because that deal just seems too amazing at only $50. edit: and it has double shot keys, this TG3 is incredible.
Nice, I'll probably order it tomorrow if I can get some funds on Paypal. Only thing I don't like off the bat is probably it being tenkey-less and the keys looking a bit small. Other than that hopefully the black switches will be good, never used a mechanical keyboard before.
Although I'll probably wait and see if anyone else has a say on this, and do some research like you said. They have 113 in stock, so I don't think that's disappearing anytime soon.
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On February 25 2012 15:42 Sovano wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 15:33 Blaec wrote:apparently the TG3 is pretty good, seems amazingly cheap though. SourceThat CM storm is blue. (click specifications) The TG3 seems an easy win if you want backlighting and can handle black switches. But I would do some more research if I were you, because that deal just seems too amazing at only $50. edit: and it has double shot keys, this TG3 is incredible. Nice, I'll probably order it tomorrow if I can get some funds on Paypal. Only thing I don't like off the bat is probably it being tenkey-less and the keys looking a bit small. Other than that hopefully the black switches will be good, never used a mechanical keyboard before. Although I'll probably wait and see if anyone else has a say on this, and do some research like you said. They have 113 in stock, so I don't think that's disappearing anytime soon.
Black switches are fine, should be a big step up from a rubber dome keyboard.
The keys seem pretty much standard size, though they taper up quite a bit.
There are backlit fullsize keyboards around, but you are looking at double the cost of the TG3.
If the compact layout of the TG3 isn't a deal breaker I would say go for it.
But if the layout is going to annoy you then spend a bit more and get a keyboard you will love.
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I looked at the BL82 and I wouldn't buy it. The keycap printing is uneven, there are no levels, and its too cheap for a mechanical board, making me think they skipped on quality control. Look at the market for mechanical keyboards and u'll know why I'm suspect.
If you don't mind the $50 to try it don't let me stop you though. But, for those people wanting to buy a "cheap mechanical keyboard" are in the wrong market.
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On February 25 2012 18:06 slytown wrote:I looked at the BL82 and I wouldn't buy it. The keycap printing is uneven, there are no levels, and its too cheap for a mechanical board, making me think they skipped on quality control. Look at the market for mechanical keyboards and u'll know why I'm suspect. If you don't mind the $50 to try it don't let me stop you though. But, for those people wanting to buy a "cheap mechanical keyboard" are in the wrong market.
The price is weirdly low, but I don't think its because of bad QC. The ones linked to in this thread seem to be police car stock, built to be pretty well indestructible. TG3 seem to build industrial keyboards.
But there are downsides, the back of the keyboard is a metal plate with screws in it. So there are no legs to sit the keyboard up on an angle, there is no rubber to stop the keyboard sliding around on your desk (and it looks like those screws would scratch the shit out of my glass desk).
Though you could always just bolt the keyboard to your desk.
Also as you say the entire board is flat as opposed to the normal angle, so it may not be the most comfortable or desk friendly keyboard. Also it is only PS/2, so you need an adaptor if you have a newer motherboard.
But its an absurdly cheap compact backlit mechanical board with blacks. If that is what you are after the BL82 looks like a great deal
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Hi guys im trying to make the difficult choice of a new mech keyboard and i thought id ask for suggestions.
Im looking for TKL or a reduced size keyboard with linear switches black or red, for SC2.
So far i have come up with -
- noppoo choc mini (white verison) wiht PBT key caps with reds
- CM storm quick fire rapid with reds
- TTesports Meka Mini/Original with blacks
- noppoo choc mini white version with PBT key caps with blacks
- filco TKL with blacks (cant get reds)
- leopold TKL with blacks or reds
prefer to spend less but not that worried, only the filco is more expensive, the rest are about 100.
Can people please suggest whether blacks or reds will be more suitable and if any of these keyboards would be a good choice.
Lastly i was wondering where people get those sweet sc2 printed keycaps?
Im currently using a DT35 and i hammer it fairly hard (switches that are simlar to this might be good)
If anyone at all can help i would be so grateful!
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I think most people get custom caps from http://www.wasdkeyboards.com
DT35 is just a cheap membrane. Comparable keyboards includes other Logitech and Microsoft keyboards >.>
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On February 25 2012 23:02 skyR wrote:I think most people get custom caps from http://www.wasdkeyboards.comDT35 is just a cheap membrane. Comparable keyboards includes other Logitech and Microsoft keyboards >.>
Hmm im just trying to give an example of what im using at the moment. Ive used a BW with blues and a Majetouch with browns and i found this DT35 to be nicer than both of those, so i wouldnt compare it at all to cheap logitech and microsoft keyboards. Thats a topic for another day though!
My main issue is I need TKL or reduced size, and mechanical will be better than any RD keyboard in this category.
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On February 25 2012 22:57 ProxiEchoes wrote:
Hi guys im trying to make the difficult choice of a new mech keyboard and i thought id ask for suggestions.
Im looking for TKL or a reduced size keyboard with linear switches black or red, for SC2.
So far i have come up with -
- noppoo choc mini (white verison) wiht PBT key caps with reds
- CM storm quick fire rapid with reds
- TTesports Meka Mini/Original with blacks
- noppoo choc mini white version with PBT key caps with blacks
- filco TKL with blacks (cant get reds)
- leopold TKL with blacks or reds
prefer to spend less but not that worried, only the filco is more expensive, the rest are about 100.
Can people please suggest whether blacks or reds will be more suitable and if any of these keyboards would be a good choice.
Lastly i was wondering where people get those sweet sc2 printed keycaps?
Im currently using a DT35 and i hammer it fairly hard (switches that are simlar to this might be good)
If anyone at all can help i would be so grateful!
Umm they are all good?
If you like the noppoo choc mini layout then get that. If you want a more standard layout I would say the CM storm (if you can handle the tons of CM decals and weird key font) or Leopold.
I can't say whether red or black are better, its personal opinion. Red is lighter, black is heavier. Red is probably more popular.
The custom caps are either Geekhack group buys or WASD as skyR mentioned.
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On February 25 2012 18:27 Blaec wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 18:06 slytown wrote:I looked at the BL82 and I wouldn't buy it. The keycap printing is uneven, there are no levels, and its too cheap for a mechanical board, making me think they skipped on quality control. Look at the market for mechanical keyboards and u'll know why I'm suspect. If you don't mind the $50 to try it don't let me stop you though. But, for those people wanting to buy a "cheap mechanical keyboard" are in the wrong market. The price is weirdly low, but I don't think its because of bad QC. The ones linked to in this thread seem to be police car stock, built to be pretty well indestructible. TG3 seem to build industrial keyboards. But there are downsides, the back of the keyboard is a metal plate with screws in it. So there are no legs to sit the keyboard up on an angle, there is no rubber to stop the keyboard sliding around on your desk (and it looks like those screws would scratch the shit out of my glass desk). Though you could always just bolt the keyboard to your desk. Also as you say the entire board is flat as opposed to the normal angle, so it may not be the most comfortable or desk friendly keyboard. Also it is only PS/2, so you need an adaptor if you have a newer motherboard. But its an absurdly cheap compact backlit mechanical board with blacks. If that is what you are after the BL82 looks like a great deal
I never even thought about if it had keyboard legs or the connectivity type. Personally the cons you just listed is making me go towards the CM Storm. I hear they have a brown switch type coming soon to the US, supposedly near the end of March.
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On February 26 2012 00:19 Sovano wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 18:27 Blaec wrote:On February 25 2012 18:06 slytown wrote:I looked at the BL82 and I wouldn't buy it. The keycap printing is uneven, there are no levels, and its too cheap for a mechanical board, making me think they skipped on quality control. Look at the market for mechanical keyboards and u'll know why I'm suspect. If you don't mind the $50 to try it don't let me stop you though. But, for those people wanting to buy a "cheap mechanical keyboard" are in the wrong market. The price is weirdly low, but I don't think its because of bad QC. The ones linked to in this thread seem to be police car stock, built to be pretty well indestructible. TG3 seem to build industrial keyboards. But there are downsides, the back of the keyboard is a metal plate with screws in it. So there are no legs to sit the keyboard up on an angle, there is no rubber to stop the keyboard sliding around on your desk (and it looks like those screws would scratch the shit out of my glass desk). Though you could always just bolt the keyboard to your desk. Also as you say the entire board is flat as opposed to the normal angle, so it may not be the most comfortable or desk friendly keyboard. Also it is only PS/2, so you need an adaptor if you have a newer motherboard. But its an absurdly cheap compact backlit mechanical board with blacks. If that is what you are after the BL82 looks like a great deal I never even thought about if it had keyboard legs or the connectivity type. Personally the cons you just listed is making me go towards the CM Storm. I hear they have a brown switch type coming soon to the US, supposedly near the end of March.
Welll thanks to slytown for making me think about it. Good choice with the CM storm.
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Does anybody know where I can buy Leopolds, Rosewills or anything else without having to pay like 50$ on shipping costs? The only keyboards I can get without paying ridiculous shipping prices are the steelseries 6gv2, zowie celeritas and razer blackwidow. Since I want to go with browns or reds the only option left is a zowie cerlitas, but I heard there are problems with it's nylon keycaps, so this is a no go aswell... I just want a simple keyboard with tenkey, but just can't find anything with a reasonable shipping price...
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Hey guys,
Debating between the Steelseries 6gv2 and the Thermaltake Meka G1 currently. First mechanical keyboard for myself, and not even sure if the cherry mx blacks are the way to go for me to be honest, but they've both received great reviews so I thought I'd pick one of them up. I've heard the G1 is superior to the 6gv2, but I wanted a few more opinions on it, along with whether it is truly worth the $35 difference. Anyone have any take on that?
Lastly, the final option would be a Coolermaster CM Storm QuickFire. However, I can only get one in mx blues around Vancouver. Any advice would be great!
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On February 26 2012 08:38 Tryxt wrote:
Hey guys,
Debating between the Steelseries 6gv2 and the Thermaltake Meka G1 currently. First mechanical keyboard for myself, and not even sure if the cherry mx blacks are the way to go for me to be honest, but they've both received great reviews so I thought I'd pick one of them up. I've heard the G1 is superior to the 6gv2, but I wanted a few more opinions on it, along with whether it is truly worth the $35 difference. Anyone have any take on that?
Lastly, the final option would be a Coolermaster CM Storm QuickFire. However, I can only get one in mx blues around Vancouver. Any advice would be great!
I'll just give you my honest opinion.
Firstly, I'm not a fan of gaming keyboards, simply because, there are better, non gaming keyboards out there, like leopolds, and filcos. Ofcourse, they are slightly more expensive, (The Filco's being the more expensive.) but are wonderful.
Secondly, blacks are really tiring, at first, but even then, still a step up from the keyboard that you are probably using now. Just be wary though, if you are getting one of those your fingers will get tired QUICK. It takes about a week or two, depending on your current condition, for how long till those blacks don't tire you out.
All in all though, blacks are a really good switch for gaming, definitely the most enjoyable I have so far.
I would be careful with getting either one of those keyboards though, be sure that you want a 'gaming' one.
I currently have a Steelseries 6gv2, and honestly, I wouldn't recommend it, the windows key is really valuable, and even then, the enter is large, the right shift is smaller, and the \ key is right next to /.
Although, more to your direct point:
I wouldn't get the 6gv2, and instead, go with the G1, as I believe it comes with an arm rest, and has a standard layout.
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campin, are you saying that after a while u get used to blacks and theyre fine, maybe even good (for RTS)?
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im a newbie who just purchased his 1st mech kb, a chery brown. It feels so nice to play on it compared to my rubber dome.
However, i have this problem. I find the keys a little high and a little harder to type. Im just wondering is it nomrla to get used to your first mech kb? Or is it just me?
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On February 26 2012 16:33 abangmozek wrote:
im a newbie who just purchased his 1st mech kb, a chery brown. It feels so nice to play on it compared to my rubber dome.
However, i have this problem. I find the keys a little high and a little harder to type. Im just wondering is it nomrla to get used to your first mech kb? Or is it just me?
Mechanical keyboards all have standard layouts for the most part. That means standardized heights and spacing better letters, again, for the most part. Most membranes nowadays, and scissor keys, have much lower profile keys and different shaped keys for ergonomics and to make it easier to press. Everyone has a "transition period" between their old membrane and their first mechanical board. It's perfectly normal.
On February 26 2012 09:33 CampinSam wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 08:38 Tryxt wrote:
Hey guys,
Debating between the Steelseries 6gv2 and the Thermaltake Meka G1 currently. First mechanical keyboard for myself, and not even sure if the cherry mx blacks are the way to go for me to be honest, but they've both received great reviews so I thought I'd pick one of them up. I've heard the G1 is superior to the 6gv2, but I wanted a few more opinions on it, along with whether it is truly worth the $35 difference. Anyone have any take on that?
Lastly, the final option would be a Coolermaster CM Storm QuickFire. However, I can only get one in mx blues around Vancouver. Any advice would be great! I'll just give you my honest opinion. Firstly, I'm not a fan of gaming keyboards, simply because, there are better, non gaming keyboards out there, like leopolds, and filcos. Ofcourse, they are slightly more expensive, (The Filco's being the more expensive.) but are wonderful. Secondly, blacks are really tiring, at first, but even then, still a step up from the keyboard that you are probably using now. Just be wary though, if you are getting one of those your fingers will get tired QUICK. It takes about a week or two, depending on your current condition, for how long till those blacks don't tire you out. All in all though, blacks are a really good switch for gaming, definitely the most enjoyable I have so far. I would be careful with getting either one of those keyboards though, be sure that you want a 'gaming' one. I currently have a Steelseries 6gv2, and honestly, I wouldn't recommend it, the windows key is really valuable, and even then, the enter is large, the right shift is smaller, and the \ key is right next to /. Although, more to your direct point: I wouldn't get the 6gv2, and instead, go with the G1, as I believe it comes with an arm rest, and has a standard layout.
That's just because the SteelSeries keyboards are bad mechanicals, not because they're gaming, though that might be a reason since they thought they could get away with "optimizing it for gamers."
Blacks and Reds are the best for pure gaming. If you're half gaming and half typing, go for Blues or Browns. Blues are for typists more than Browns. Browns are basically halfway.
There are plenty of other options. Look here. Also consider importing some better ones from the States or overseas, though that'll push your budget if you have one.
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On February 25 2012 22:57 ProxiEchoes wrote:
Hi guys im trying to make the difficult choice of a new mech keyboard and i thought id ask for suggestions.
Im looking for TKL or a reduced size keyboard with linear switches black or red, for SC2.
So far i have come up with -
- noppoo choc mini (white verison) wiht PBT key caps with reds
- CM storm quick fire rapid with reds
- TTesports Meka Mini/Original with blacks
- noppoo choc mini white version with PBT key caps with blacks
- filco TKL with blacks (cant get reds)
- leopold TKL with blacks or reds
prefer to spend less but not that worried, only the filco is more expensive, the rest are about 100.
Can people please suggest whether blacks or reds will be more suitable and if any of these keyboards would be a good choice.
Lastly i was wondering where people get those sweet sc2 printed keycaps?
Im currently using a DT35 and i hammer it fairly hard (switches that are simlar to this might be good)
If anyone at all can help i would be so grateful!
I got the leopold reds from Pccasegear.com and i just have to say its friggen amazing  . As for printed caps wasd keyboards make custom caps, just order those seperately.
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That's just because the SteelSeries keyboards are bad mechanicals, not because they're gaming, though that might be a reason since they thought they could get away with "optimizing it for gamers." Blacks and Reds are the best for pure gaming. If you're half gaming and half typing, go for Blues or Browns. Blues are for typists more than Browns. Browns are basically halfway. There are plenty of other options. Look here. Also consider importing some better ones from the States or overseas, though that'll push your budget if you have one.
Thanks to both of you for the advice. I plan to do gaming primarily on it and maybe some typing for college papers. Though for that, I could always just plug in any random keyboard I have. I was mainly looking at NCIX and am basically stuck at a standstill between the Thermaltake G1 and CM Storm QuickFire. Hopefully they have them at the Vancouver retail store to try out before I pick one up. I even found a great deal from Canada Computers on a Corsair K60 which NCIX will match, though I'm not sold on that one yet.
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On February 26 2012 08:38 Tryxt wrote:
Hey guys,
Debating between the Steelseries 6gv2 and the Thermaltake Meka G1 currently. First mechanical keyboard for myself, and not even sure if the cherry mx blacks are the way to go for me to be honest, but they've both received great reviews so I thought I'd pick one of them up. I've heard the G1 is superior to the 6gv2, but I wanted a few more opinions on it, along with whether it is truly worth the $35 difference. Anyone have any take on that?
Lastly, the final option would be a Coolermaster CM Storm QuickFire. However, I can only get one in mx blues around Vancouver. Any advice would be great!
The SteelSeries 6gv2 and Thermaltake Meka G1 are both good keyboards at pretty much similar prices and they both have their own ups and downs, and when it comes to deciding what you choose in the end it's up to your own personal preferences. In my opinion this is how I would compare the 6gv2 and the Meka G1:
If you are looking at build quality, I would say the 6gv2 is built better overall. The outside look and design looks simpler, and I think it's better looking. If you want to look into further details, the keycaps of the Meka G1 is slightly higher than that of the 6gv2, thus you will have to raise your hands higher to use. I know that the Meka G1 does provide an arm-rest, but I've used it before and in my opinion it feels pretty fragile and after long period of use it can get loose. To me the arm-rest feels cheap.
To me the downside of the 6gv2 is their key layout. Their enter key is enlarged and they moved the \ next to the right shift key and the right shift key is shortened. On the Meka G1 the key layout is standard with a standard size enter key and standard size \ key on top of the enter key. Both keyboards have the left windows key replaced with a function key for the multimedia buttons, though I don't know if they can, by default, be mapped to be used as a windows key.
The Meka G1 has additional USB hubs and earphone+mic jacks for extra gaming accessories.
I'm currently using the CM Storm QuickFire Rapid to type this reply, and I don't have any regrets buying this keyboard. I live in Taiwan so I was able to get one with black switches.
Hope this helps with your decision on your purchase. =)
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