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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12680 Posts
December 10 2012 13:22 GMT
#4601
On December 10 2012 20:20 ljd1131 wrote:
Hey i was thinking of a getting a new mechanical keyboard to try out some different switches. I'm currently using browns on a leopold keyboard and they're great ,but i was just wondering how other swtiches like red/black feel,so if anyone could tell me would be great thx

I got a red switch and honestly it feels very different to brown/blue.
first thing is that it doesn't really have the clicky sound of the blue and has a more lower toned sound to it. I don't like it as much personally but that's not to say it's not good. It feels more solid in a way.

without the tactile feedback, the typing experience becomes very different. I think if you aren't so comfortable with touch typing, it can be quite easy to mistype because unlike blues for example, it doesn't have that 'slowly increasing the force as you push down the key until it clicks' type of feeling to it. It just goes all the way bottom.
But once you are used to typing with red switch, it feels very nice. It feels 'smooth' since the 'click' is no longer there.
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Jevity
Profile Joined August 2012
United States67 Posts
December 10 2012 13:38 GMT
#4602
On December 10 2012 20:20 ljd1131 wrote:
Hey i was thinking of a getting a new mechanical keyboard to try out some different switches. I'm currently using browns on a leopold keyboard and they're great ,but i was just wondering how other swtiches like red/black feel,so if anyone could tell me would be great thx


I've tried the browns and the blues recently. I was using black switches for 2 years and bought the leopold tenkeyless with red switches a few months ago. If you're using browns, I really think the switch to reds will be easy, and you will probably end up liking them better after some use.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 01:03:23
December 11 2012 01:02 GMT
#4603
Just bought a Filco Majestouch 2 (not a TKL, a full 104 key keyboard because I use the numpad a lot for school) with red switches. As you may (or probably not) recall, I was looking at the CM Storm Quickfire TK with reds but after looking at that and a bunch of others I felt that I would always regret not getting the Filco (I felt that regret after I got my Rosewill since it had the weird issue a bunch of the first batch RK9000s had where if you pressed certain combinations of 2 keys it would output 3 letters. The most noticeable combination was N+S where it would output 'njs', so when I typed "instead", I would sometimes get "injstead". I didn't want to deal with RMAing it so I just accepted it for what it was.). I decided I might as well get the best and have no regrets so I am quite excited to get it. I paid for NCIX's cheap express shipping deal so I get it on Wednesday, which is perfect because I am out of the house Christmas shopping tomorrow afternoon and am writing a final exam on Thursday. I don't feel too bad about the fairly exorbitant cost because my last paycheck was much larger than normal due to working on a holiday and making more than double what I normally make in a day. Plus I saved up almost all my money during the summer and have a ton left over after paying for school so I might as well spend it on something I will actually use rather than waste it on booze like most of my friends do.

I was going to get a keyboard with reds anyway since I was getting subtle hints from my dad that my current keyboard is way too loud hahaha (He'd say things like "Oh you were playing video games before?" and things like that and saying he could hear me clacking away). I felt kinda bad about being so noisy with my blue switches. He never said anything when I used to use my 6GV2 so it must be the blue switches.

I think I am going to give my old 6GV2 to my buddy at work. He currently uses a laptop keyboard to play games (I told him he was nuts) but he doesn't have the money to get a good one so I'll give him mine since I'm not going to ever use it anymore now that I have 2 better ones (My Rosewill will now be my dedicated keyboard for my Mac setup. I do all my programming on my Mac laptop so this will save me having to unhook my Filco from my desktop everytime I have homework). Now I just have to get another G1 so I can have my favourite mouse on each computer. It's not like that would break the bank since those cost 1/6th the price of my new keyboard.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Mia
Profile Joined November 2012
75 Posts
December 11 2012 12:59 GMT
#4604
So i have been using blackwidow tournament edit for couple of weeks now. Gotta say it works nicely, only thing is its kinda load when bottoming out, thinking of putting orings or whatever they are called on keycaps. Also is there some type of rubberized feel keycaps?
"Terran, who is missing in action" - me
AndyGB4
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada156 Posts
December 11 2012 15:41 GMT
#4605
Been using my new Filco Majestouch 2 (blue switches) and I gotta say for my first Mechanical Keyboard, I'm really loving it! I got used to the typing fairly quickly, and its pretty awesome! I got a great deal on NCIX a few weeks back, or else I probably wouldn't have invest that kind of money,but I'm very happy I did! It's a great keyboard! Really feels nice to type and to game on.
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
December 11 2012 16:07 GMT
#4606
On December 11 2012 21:59 Mia wrote:
So i have been using blackwidow tournament edit for couple of weeks now. Gotta say it works nicely, only thing is its kinda load when bottoming out, thinking of putting orings or whatever they are called on keycaps. Also is there some type of rubberized feel keycaps?

O-Rings definitely help dampen the sound on blue switches. Although you lose a bit of the true feeling of blue switches unfortunately. At least in my opinion you do.

I believe the Corsair K60s have some rubber keycaps that you can harvest from. Don't quote me on that though.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
December 11 2012 16:21 GMT
#4607
On December 12 2012 00:41 AndyGB4 wrote:
Been using my new Filco Majestouch 2 (blue switches) and I gotta say for my first Mechanical Keyboard, I'm really loving it! I got used to the typing fairly quickly, and its pretty awesome! I got a great deal on NCIX a few weeks back, or else I probably wouldn't have invest that kind of money,but I'm very happy I did! It's a great keyboard! Really feels nice to type and to game on.
Oh was that the one with the blue base with black keys they had on sale for Black Friday/Cyber Monday? If so, yeah that was a really good price. If it would have been browns or reds I would have snagged it because I already have a keyboard with blue switches.

I got my Filco from NCIX too, though I guess that is our only choice in Canada other than paying insane shipping and customs fees from other countries. I'm glad NCIX got Filcos because I have wanted one for a long time and it seemed impossible to get one shipped here without paying over $200.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
AndyGB4
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada156 Posts
December 11 2012 17:06 GMT
#4608
On December 12 2012 01:21 Ben... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 00:41 AndyGB4 wrote:
Been using my new Filco Majestouch 2 (blue switches) and I gotta say for my first Mechanical Keyboard, I'm really loving it! I got used to the typing fairly quickly, and its pretty awesome! I got a great deal on NCIX a few weeks back, or else I probably wouldn't have invest that kind of money,but I'm very happy I did! It's a great keyboard! Really feels nice to type and to game on.
Oh was that the one with the blue base with black keys they had on sale for Black Friday/Cyber Monday? If so, yeah that was a really good price. If it would have been browns or reds I would have snagged it because I already have a keyboard with blue switches.

I got my Filco from NCIX too, though I guess that is our only choice in Canada other than paying insane shipping and customs fees from other countries. I'm glad NCIX got Filcos because I have wanted one for a long time and it seemed impossible to get one shipped here without paying over $200.


Yup, that's the one! And yeah, i would have preferred a brown, but for my first Mech KB I didn't mind blues, it was a great opportunity, so I went for it.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
December 11 2012 21:28 GMT
#4609
Anyone knows/have experience with using WASD in an EU country?
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manitoo
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada3 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 00:09:40
December 12 2012 00:09 GMT
#4610
Hey all, I've read through this thread and I have a question that doesn't seem to have been asked recently.

I recently purchased a red switch 6GV2, and it's a huge step up from my old Logitech G15. One thing I don't like about the red switch is that it feels "mushy". I press down on the key, it slides to the bottom, and just stops. What I miss from my membrane keyboard is a "snappy" feeling, which I think was heavier actuation plus shorter travel distance.

Naturally this would suggest that black switches would be a better fit for me. But I'm also curious about brown switches. Do they feel any "snappier" than reds or blacks? Is this a quality anyone else has noticed about red switches?

I should also note that I'm a heavy typist. I will bottom out every keystroke whether it's regular typing or playing SC2. Is there any benefit to me getting brown switches, in that case?

Thanks for your advice!
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
December 12 2012 01:12 GMT
#4611
The black switch is the same as the red, just requires more force to push. The black switches could be interesting to try, perhaps you would be able to type without always hitting bottom like with the red switches.

For a snappy feeling, that could mean you should look into brown or blue switches. Their downwards movement basically has two parts, you'll feel some kind of resistance very shortly after starting to push on the keys, and it'll give way suddenly and fall down a little bit before the resistance picks up again. That will be the point at which the switch activates, which is completely hidden in red and black switches. The brown switch feels a bit mushy, the blue perhaps cleaner (I can't describe it better). The blue has a click sound at the point where it activates. Both feel a bit more flimsy compared to red or black in my opinion.

As you hammer the keys anyways, always bottoming out, I would guess the different switches would not make any difference for you, and would be a waste of money. Spamming keys, I personally don't really notice anything about the tactility of brown and blue switches. I bet the red or black switches will feel best with their completely clean movement, and the other switches as if the insides of a red switch being dirty.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
December 12 2012 01:19 GMT
#4612
On December 12 2012 06:28 Grovbolle wrote:
Anyone knows/have experience with using WASD in an EU country?

I would like to know the same but for Latin America, i want to buy a keyboard from them, but first i need to know how does that work over here (How much the shipping takes etc)
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manitoo
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada3 Posts
December 12 2012 01:40 GMT
#4613
Great feedback, thanks Ropid!
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
December 12 2012 10:53 GMT
#4614
On December 12 2012 09:09 manitoo wrote:
Hey all, I've read through this thread and I have a question that doesn't seem to have been asked recently.

I recently purchased a red switch 6GV2, and it's a huge step up from my old Logitech G15. One thing I don't like about the red switch is that it feels "mushy". I press down on the key, it slides to the bottom, and just stops. What I miss from my membrane keyboard is a "snappy" feeling, which I think was heavier actuation plus shorter travel distance.

Naturally this would suggest that black switches would be a better fit for me. But I'm also curious about brown switches. Do they feel any "snappier" than reds or blacks? Is this a quality anyone else has noticed about red switches?

I should also note that I'm a heavy typist. I will bottom out every keystroke whether it's regular typing or playing SC2. Is there any benefit to me getting brown switches, in that case?

Thanks for your advice!


Problem for you is travel distance. You bottom out, and therefore won't get any "snappy" feeling.

Will happen on a black switch as well (does on my black 6gv2 )
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Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
December 12 2012 11:04 GMT
#4615
On December 12 2012 10:19 Uvantak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 06:28 Grovbolle wrote:
Anyone knows/have experience with using WASD in an EU country?

I would like to know the same but for Latin America, i want to buy a keyboard from them, but first i need to know how does that work over here (How much the shipping takes etc)


Send WASD an email, they are pretty good at responding.
IPS.Blue
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany309 Posts
December 12 2012 16:16 GMT
#4616
On December 01 2012 12:19 kill619 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 11:28 peekn wrote:
So WASD just released their TKL and has some teaser stuff on their site.

http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/blog



Looks pretty sick, I don't understand why someone would want to switch the caps lock and control keys around though.

Well: Caps lock is way less important than the control key but caps lock enjoys the better placement on most keyboards.
StaraCroft
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria292 Posts
December 12 2012 18:16 GMT
#4617
I just got myself a qpad mk-50 with cherry red switches. Got it over the 6gv2-red which is the same price around here because it has the left winows key (which I use) and has a completely standard layout - the german layout on the 6gv2 would drive me nuts.
I mainly wanted to get a keyboard with really light keys - not so much for starcraft, just for typing/playing in general. I didn't take any getting used to, but I'm pretty accurate with a keyboard anyway. If you're someone who does a lot of fumbles I could imagine that the red switches could make things worse. So a fair word of warning there, but otherwise I absolutely love them.

Made a much bigger difference playing Chivalry than playing starcraft fwiw. Holding down 'w' for a long period of time used to become painful.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 12 2012 18:51 GMT
#4618
Caps lock is the gamer's elephant in the room. Its prime real estate but no one uses it.
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
December 12 2012 19:34 GMT
#4619
On December 13 2012 03:51 Medrea wrote:
Caps lock is the gamer's elephant in the room. Its prime real estate but no one uses it.

I always configured Ventrilo, Teamspeak, etc. to use Caps Lock for push-to-talk. I had pretty severe hay fever every summer and would transmit disgusting noises all the time without that.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 21:12:42
December 12 2012 21:09 GMT
#4620
Got my Filco with reds today. It is better than I imagined. Reds are so perfect for me since I am a very light when it comes to typing. It is taking a bit to get used to the new actuation point compared to blues. I keep typing and thinking things shouldn't register when they are. I'm also used to the safety net of blues where it takes a lot more for presses to register so I am making a lot of typos hitting nearby keys, but I am already getting used to that. However, my typing does seem to be a bit faster already since I can type super light with it still registering.

The quality of the keyboard itself is quite impressive. No squeaky keys, which was a big issue on my old Rosewill (the spacebar drove me nuts!). It feels quite sturdy. I like that it just has a regular cord rather than one of those braided things because those always get so frayed after a while. The red LEDs are nice because they don't blind me to look into (the blue LEDs in my Rosewill were super duper bright and it could get annoying). Overall I am very happy with this purchase and am glad I went with the Filco.

Edit: I don't know why, but for some reason I am much better at touch typing on this keyboard, almost as fast as on my laptop. It is strange.
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