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hoLyNtt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States170 Posts
August 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#3601
On August 08 2012 12:27 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 03:57 sawedust wrote:
On August 08 2012 03:05 derb2k2 wrote:
On August 08 2012 02:51 AngryFarmer wrote:
What is wrong with USB connectors?


the complaint is that the USB connector is very fragile and can be damaged easily. People have complained that after several months the keyboard won't work due to that. Here's a picture someone posted on Geekhack.
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I posted that pic on GH. Thanks to my friend Dave for getting it out to me for all to see.


Is it just with the reds? I got the rosewill with blue a couple months ago and the usb connector seems fine to me for now.



same issue with any Rosewill rk9000 afaic. Only thing that differs is the switches.
kiss me
ZeraX
Profile Joined April 2011
France14 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 13:11:26
August 08 2012 13:05 GMT
#3602
Well, i guess i'm going for the Tesoro Durandal, thanks Just gonna try to find it with red switches , since they're a bit softer on typing then the brown ones (from what i read).
Any idea though where i could get one in Europe ? Iso layout preferably.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 14:13:38
August 08 2012 14:12 GMT
#3603
On August 08 2012 22:05 ZeraX wrote:
Well, i guess i'm going for the Tesoro Durandal, thanks Just gonna try to find it with red switches , since they're a bit softer on typing then the brown ones (from what i read).
Any idea though where i could get one in Europe ? Iso layout preferably.


Tesoro's website says they only come in brown. Though they are coming with backlit aluminium keyboards in red, but I would expect that to be way outside 80 euro.

So I guess Qpad seems like a good choice for you.
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
August 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#3604
In Sweden Tesoro Durandal comes in Black, Blue, Brown, Red. I see no reason why France shouldn't have them aswell.
ZeraX
Profile Joined April 2011
France14 Posts
August 08 2012 15:09 GMT
#3605
Well, they're only available via import, they're not sold in France. The only ones in can find (import) are with brown.
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
August 08 2012 16:04 GMT
#3606
Cant decide.

Atm im thinking about CM Storm QuickFire Pro with MX Reds or Browns.
What do you guys think ?

I'm asking cuz i cant 'check by myself' how the reds or browns feels like, and ill order this keyboard from overseas so there could be a problem with return and order another one.

Gonna use keyboard for: lots of typing / starcraft 2 / World of Warcraft.
I'm getting the derection.
LJ
Profile Joined January 2012
203 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 17:58:14
August 08 2012 17:57 GMT
#3607
On August 09 2012 01:04 zYwi3c wrote:
Cant decide.

Atm im thinking about CM Storm QuickFire Pro with MX Reds or Browns.
What do you guys think ?

I'm asking cuz i cant 'check by myself' how the reds or browns feels like, and ill order this keyboard from overseas so there could be a problem with return and order another one.

Gonna use keyboard for: lots of typing / starcraft 2 / World of Warcraft.
I would get reds if you are playing lots of games or even black if you don't have a light touch
hoLyNtt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States170 Posts
August 08 2012 19:59 GMT
#3608
On August 09 2012 02:57 LJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 01:04 zYwi3c wrote:
Cant decide.

Atm im thinking about CM Storm QuickFire Pro with MX Reds or Browns.
What do you guys think ?

I'm asking cuz i cant 'check by myself' how the reds or browns feels like, and ill order this keyboard from overseas so there could be a problem with return and order another one.

Gonna use keyboard for: lots of typing / starcraft 2 / World of Warcraft.
I would get reds if you are playing lots of games or even black if you don't have a light touch



I do wonder how "stiff" blacks are. Actuation is supposedly 15 g more for blacks than reds. That 15 g difference must feel substantial. If you're a long time gamer, or plan to game for a long time, I would get reds. I've been gaming for >10 years now and will probably stick to red switches for life lol
kiss me
skiersteve
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom268 Posts
August 08 2012 20:51 GMT
#3609
my new white kbt race s !!!! red switches and i love it, i came from black switches and they really are a ton lighter i prefer them but i did like my blacks as well i just wanted a smaller keyboard and they dont come much smaller than this :D the really close F keys help a lot when using camera hotkeys only thing i would say is that im from the uk and they only do this in us layout and its taking me a while adjusting to the little enter button and having a huge shift bar lol keep miss clicking enter a lot, sorry for second picture quality its from iphone but its just to show the lights

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YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
August 09 2012 01:46 GMT
#3610
i'm not sure if i should be posting this here in this thread but, over the past ~4months or so i've had a very annoying problem with my keyboard. it's a Filco Majestouch Brown Switches that i bought from elitekeyboards, warranty there is 1year and i've had it for 2years now so can't ask for a new one. I'm having key chattering/bouncing or as i like to call it 'double tapping' on the spacebar and the 's' key.

Key "chattering" or "contact bouncing" is a natural occurrence in mechanical switches that can cause one switch press to be detected as multiple presses. Under normal switch operation the digital electronics in a keyboard will filter out a small amount of natural chatter/bounce, however, in the case that an individual switch is damaged or defective, the amount of chatter/bounce can become too large to be filtered. The result is a repetition of key input seen on your computer screen for only one intended key press. This is a problem that affects only the broken switch and is a problem that is covered by your EliteKeyboards warranty.

Went to see someone here that tried to fix it but couldnt fix it completely even tho it seems to be slightly better now since he told me hes not really that comfortable with keyboards he didnt want to risk damaging it even more, i can't really find anything on google and don't really want to pay for a new one either, at first it was only a bit annoying but as time goes on its getting more and more frustrating since everytime i'm typing i gotta erase and go fix the double space or double 'ss' that randomly appear even tho i'm only pressing the key once, anyone has any idea of what i could try ?
Live it, love it, play it, kill it. JulyZerg and IPXZerg greatest TL.net fan
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
August 09 2012 03:18 GMT
#3611
On August 09 2012 10:46 YunhOLee wrote:
i'm not sure if i should be posting this here in this thread but, over the past ~4months or so i've had a very annoying problem with my keyboard. it's a Filco Majestouch Brown Switches that i bought from elitekeyboards, warranty there is 1year and i've had it for 2years now so can't ask for a new one. I'm having key chattering/bouncing or as i like to call it 'double tapping' on the spacebar and the 's' key.
Show nested quote +

Key "chattering" or "contact bouncing" is a natural occurrence in mechanical switches that can cause one switch press to be detected as multiple presses. Under normal switch operation the digital electronics in a keyboard will filter out a small amount of natural chatter/bounce, however, in the case that an individual switch is damaged or defective, the amount of chatter/bounce can become too large to be filtered. The result is a repetition of key input seen on your computer screen for only one intended key press. This is a problem that affects only the broken switch and is a problem that is covered by your EliteKeyboards warranty.

Went to see someone here that tried to fix it but couldnt fix it completely even tho it seems to be slightly better now since he told me hes not really that comfortable with keyboards he didnt want to risk damaging it even more, i can't really find anything on google and don't really want to pay for a new one either, at first it was only a bit annoying but as time goes on its getting more and more frustrating since everytime i'm typing i gotta erase and go fix the double space or double 'ss' that randomly appear even tho i'm only pressing the key once, anyone has any idea of what i could try ?


I fixed mine by taking the keycap off and working the switch fairly roughly. But that was when it was new, so not sure if this will work for you. Could try blowing some compressed air into the switch?

Otherwise the only solution I know of is the replace the switch. Take your s key switch out and replace it with a switch you don't use, scroll lock for example. But apparently (never done it) this is pretty labour intensive, and involves soldering. Try asking at deskthority or the resurrected geekhack, they might have some more ideas.
karolat
Profile Joined November 2010
United States11 Posts
August 09 2012 04:34 GMT
#3612
I'm thinking of buying a replacement keyboard for my Das Professional S which I had a spill accident with leaving the switches sticky and, while usable, nothing of what it first was. I was considering switching over to brown switches--is it a big difference? I really enjoy the feel of the blue switches and love the sound, but I sometimes find I won't completely lift a key before hitting another one (when queuing commands in SC I'll find myself adding that unit to another control group because I haven't completely lifted my finger off the shift key). Also--should I try a Ducky keyboard with brown or blue switches or stick with Das?
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 05:55:08
August 09 2012 05:50 GMT
#3613
On August 09 2012 13:34 karolat wrote:
I'm thinking of buying a replacement keyboard for my Das Professional S which I had a spill accident with leaving the switches sticky and, while usable, nothing of what it first was. I was considering switching over to brown switches--is it a big difference? I really enjoy the feel of the blue switches and love the sound, but I sometimes find I won't completely lift a key before hitting another one (when queuing commands in SC I'll find myself adding that unit to another control group because I haven't completely lifted my finger off the shift key). Also--should I try a Ducky keyboard with brown or blue switches or stick with Das?


Yes browns are very different, kind of clunky and gritty compared to the crisp clacking of blues (can you tell I prefer blues?) and don't have the difficulties in doubletapping.

I don't see any reason to get a ducky over a Das unless you want to save some money or want backlighting.

Also you should be able to clean your Das, if the stickyness is inside the switches you can even resort to soaking the entire thing in isopropyl alcohol. Das keyboard themselves share how to do it here.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
August 09 2012 06:08 GMT
#3614
On August 09 2012 14:50 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 13:34 karolat wrote:
I'm thinking of buying a replacement keyboard for my Das Professional S which I had a spill accident with leaving the switches sticky and, while usable, nothing of what it first was. I was considering switching over to brown switches--is it a big difference? I really enjoy the feel of the blue switches and love the sound, but I sometimes find I won't completely lift a key before hitting another one (when queuing commands in SC I'll find myself adding that unit to another control group because I haven't completely lifted my finger off the shift key). Also--should I try a Ducky keyboard with brown or blue switches or stick with Das?


Yes browns are very different, kind of clunky and gritty compared to the crisp clacking of blues (can you tell I prefer blues?) and don't have the difficulties in doubletapping.

I don't see any reason to get a ducky over a Das unless you want to save some money or want backlighting.

Also you should be able to clean your Das, if the stickyness is inside the switches you can even resort to soaking the entire thing in isopropyl alcohol. Das keyboard themselves share how to do it here.


My friend spilled beer in his and had a few sticky keys. Told him to clean it with isopropyl alcohol but he somehow fucked up and now more of the keys are messed up. I think it's because the grease on the springs got taken off though. How would one be able to tell the difference between the spring being messed up or it still being sticky?
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
August 09 2012 06:32 GMT
#3615
On August 09 2012 15:08 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 14:50 Blaec wrote:
On August 09 2012 13:34 karolat wrote:
I'm thinking of buying a replacement keyboard for my Das Professional S which I had a spill accident with leaving the switches sticky and, while usable, nothing of what it first was. I was considering switching over to brown switches--is it a big difference? I really enjoy the feel of the blue switches and love the sound, but I sometimes find I won't completely lift a key before hitting another one (when queuing commands in SC I'll find myself adding that unit to another control group because I haven't completely lifted my finger off the shift key). Also--should I try a Ducky keyboard with brown or blue switches or stick with Das?


Yes browns are very different, kind of clunky and gritty compared to the crisp clacking of blues (can you tell I prefer blues?) and don't have the difficulties in doubletapping.

I don't see any reason to get a ducky over a Das unless you want to save some money or want backlighting.

Also you should be able to clean your Das, if the stickyness is inside the switches you can even resort to soaking the entire thing in isopropyl alcohol. Das keyboard themselves share how to do it here.


My friend spilled beer in his and had a few sticky keys. Told him to clean it with isopropyl alcohol but he somehow fucked up and now more of the keys are messed up. I think it's because the grease on the springs got taken off though. How would one be able to tell the difference between the spring being messed up or it still being sticky?


Well afaik there isn't any grease on the spring, its on the contacts in the switch. So it should feel like metal rubbing against plastic instead of stickyness. But Ive never done it, so this is just speculation.
zoego
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden5 Posts
August 09 2012 08:50 GMT
#3616
Im going to buy a new keyboard soon, and been doing some research. Im kinda in to blue switches because of the klick, but i heard its realy loud, I can imagine it can get kinda annoying after a while. Any one that hade that "problem"?
(sorry for the bad english)
Naniwa <3 StarTale <3
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
August 09 2012 09:28 GMT
#3617
On August 09 2012 17:50 zoego wrote:
Im going to buy a new keyboard soon, and been doing some research. Im kinda in to blue switches because of the klick, but i heard its realy loud, I can imagine it can get kinda annoying after a while. Any one that hade that "problem"?
(sorry for the bad english)


I think the clicky sound is awesome and never had any problems of getting annoyed by it after a while but I always use a headset and it isolates most of the sound.
Ktk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)753 Posts
August 09 2012 11:54 GMT
#3618
On August 09 2012 17:50 zoego wrote:
Im going to buy a new keyboard soon, and been doing some research. Im kinda in to blue switches because of the klick, but i heard its realy loud, I can imagine it can get kinda annoying after a while. Any one that hade that "problem"?
(sorry for the bad english)


That's actually reason #2 you buy this keyboard

Reason #1 is the feel of the click of course
hoLyNtt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States170 Posts
August 09 2012 11:58 GMT
#3619
On August 09 2012 17:50 zoego wrote:
Im going to buy a new keyboard soon, and been doing some research. Im kinda in to blue switches because of the klick, but i heard its realy loud, I can imagine it can get kinda annoying after a while. Any one that hade that "problem"?
(sorry for the bad english)




yea the sound of blues is great and is loud compared to most boards. Shoudln't be a problem if you have your own room or place. It's quite enjoyable.
kiss me
zoego
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 12:39:02
August 09 2012 12:38 GMT
#3620
On August 09 2012 20:58 derb2k2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 17:50 zoego wrote:
Im going to buy a new keyboard soon, and been doing some research. Im kinda in to blue switches because of the klick, but i heard its realy loud, I can imagine it can get kinda annoying after a while. Any one that hade that "problem"?
(sorry for the bad english)




yea the sound of blues is great and is loud compared to most boards. Shoudln't be a problem if you have your own room or place. It's quite enjoyable.


Okay, thanks for the answers. And how about over skype, any one had complains about the clicky sound? (mic matters obv, but overall)
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